1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

OK - so the end of stripping is in sight. I finally got the last side of the boat completely stripped. I only have about a third of the bottom left - but the paint on much of that is very thin, and comes off easily - so one more evening should do it. Once that is done, I'll be on to the next task - though there will be some patch stripping left to do. 23 hours and $225 so far.

As I was going through this, I found that someone had siliconed all the seams on the boat, and had roughly slapped what looks like jb weld on a number of points. Given that I want this boat to be like new, I have been removing all the silicone and I will grind the jb weld patches down.

Once the bottom is done, the entire boat will be stripped, though there are some patches of paint still left on it, particularly on the inside. I have a number of tasks left to do:
- pressure wash the boat
- rough sand the boat, inside and outside, and remove any silicone
- grind down the jb weld patches off
- pressure wash the boat
- do a leak test on the boat, mark and replace or rebuck any leaking rivets
- have someone weld the channel on the bottom
- fine sand the boat to prep it for painting
- gluvit the boat
- leak test the boat again and fix anything else that is still leaking
- wash the boat
- rinse the boat with acetone
- undercoat the entire boat with an etching primer
- paint the boat
- replace foam
- replace seats
- build a 'removable floor' - to flatten out the bottom for easy standing
- rebuild transom
- fill holes in the gunwale
- replace the electric lights etc. in the boat
- decals

So....did I miss anything? Did I get anything here out of order?

Next question - how do I rough sand the boat, and how extensively should I be sanding? What tools should I use? Should I use a random orbit sander, palm sander, belt sander or what?

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Sounds like a pretty comprehensive and labor intensive list you have. I would ask if your replacing the transom since I don't see that in the to do list. I wiped the bare aluminum down with Heinz vinegar cleaning solution, (it comes pre-mixed) prior to priming it with the SE primer.They also say that painting should be done within one week of priming.

I didn't sand, rather opted for a drill with wire wheel because of all the rivets, seams and grooves.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Yes - definitely replacing the transom - the old one is out - but I figured I would do leak testing etc. before putting the new one in.

Did you paint over the wire wheeled surface? If so, how did it turn out?

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

The scratches by sanding or wheeling are light and were covered up by just the primer. The top coat of paint went on smooth and is holding up great even after some serious sea trails.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Good to hear it - I read the 'above waterline' / 'below waterline' debate on your thread. Locally, I can't buy marine paint.... not sure what I'm going to do yet.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

OK - so a bit of good luck today. I found a motor for this boat - a '64 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp. It's underpowered, but I'm not concerned about speed for this boat. Actually, I found three motors, but I plan on selling two of them. 24 hours and $240.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Stripping is finally done! I'm now going over the boat with a wire wheel to get the last of the cruddy paint off. Had another nice surprise today - one of my neighbors, who runs a sign shop, dropped by - she's been watching the progression - and gave me a couple of decals for the Naden - she reproduced the original decals. Can't wait to put them on. If anyone else out there needs Naden decals for a restoration, I'll put you in touch with her. 27 hours and $250 (needed a new wire wheel).

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

I wish I was there on the stripping, man what a horrible job that is. Didn't they make a fast twin in a 28 HP too? That era of motor will look great, do you plan on restoring the motor too?

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

I was fortunate to buy a motor that someone had already done some mechanical work on. The motor's in pretty good shape, so I'm going to leave it as is. Oh yes - 28 hours and $250. Wore out another while wheel yesterday.

 

[budski]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Excellent buy on the motors. they look to be in great shape.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Finally! Outside of the boat is stripped. Naturally, I flipped the back over, sighed...and then re-began work on the inside - what I had done there wasn't nearly good enough. 34 hours and $310 (the extra cash was in wire wheels). The inside is going much faster than the outside, which is good.

If I had paint that was in good shape, I would just sand it and repaint over it. The trouble is my boat had everything from peeling paint to runs, drips, sags etc. Wire wheeling is at least a lot more fun than stripping with stripper.

This is a photo of the boat before I flipped it back upright and back on the trailer. The thin line of red there was about five layers of paint - all gone now.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Oh yes - when I stripped this boat, I found a few odd things.

First - someone had sealed with silicone caulking, all of the strips of aluminum on the bottom of the boat - don't know why, as none of those points would have leaked into the boat.

Second - there were chunks of badly installed jb weld (or something similar), on several points on the bottom of the boat - someone had just heaped it on there. In some cases, when I ground that off - I found a perfectly good rivet underneath. In others, I found an empty rivet hole. So rather than simply bang a new rivet into place, someone had just tried to fix this (unsuccessfully), with jb weld.

I'm going out of town on business for about 8 days, so won't be able to get anything done. Starting to get worried that I might not get done this year. I have all the gear necessary for painting now, just need to get the rivets tightened, gluvit in the seams, and then painting.

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Oh the adventures of uncovering PO blunders, I nearly had a bald spot from scratching my head over some of the PO repairs on my SN.

5 layers? OMG The 2 I'm working on is bad enough, I can't imagine. The feeling of progress makes all the hard work worth it.

Have a safe trip, we'll hold down the fort and be here when you get back.

 

[GT1000000]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Ditto^^^on the PO blunders...
Glad to hear the interior is not going to be as bad...
And safe travels, we'll keep an eye out on things while you're away...

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Well - back at again for a few minutes. Then....noticed that the angle grinder was shaking more than usual. Took it apart, and discovered that the housing for the shaft that holds the wire wheel had been ground into an oval shape. Wow. Not sure whether to feel strong...or just dumb.

I won't ask for a vote on that one.

One new angle grinder later and back at it. 35.5 hours and $340.

 

[iammichael6499]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

I just found your thread today. I'm also in the early stages of a 14' Naden rebuild. My boat has an August 1960 build date stamped in the transom. I'll let you know if I make any "ah-ha" unique to Naden rebuild discoveries. I was fortunate that I didn't have paint on the exterior.

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Good to hear. Good luck with it, start your resto thread and put up some pictures.

I scored enough pink foam insulation for floatation this weekend at a garage sale.

Still have to get the rest of the paint off the inside...

 

[pckeen]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

By the way Michael, where on the transom was your stamp?

I ordered the gluvit I should need, paid for by settling of some parts from the parts motor.

40 hours and $350.

 

[iammichael6499]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Will do with the pics and will include one of the date stamp.

 

[Jeep Man]

Re: 1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

Just came upon your thread today. Nice work on the Naden. I've rode a few when at some of the fishing camps up north. Nice work on yours so far. I'm redoing a Springbok of the same era but your attention to detail is higher than mine. I'll follow along till the end. BTW, if you want more horsepower, I've got a '68 Evinrude 40hp that's just collecting dust.