1968-71 Naden N-16 Big Fisherman Restoration

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pckeen

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Thanks Jeep. The great thing about living in this part of the world is lakes lakes lakes. The sad thing is shipping costs!
 

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FINALLY!

I've been trying to get the boat stripped, in between week long trips for work out of town. The stripping is now complete. I have a couple of areas left that require scuff sanding, where I cannot get the wire wheel into, but that is all I have left to do. The stripping is complete. Photos are below - the red you see is simply dust from the stripping.

Gluvit has arrived. Foam is sitting outside, waiting to be cut to shape. I think it is probably too late in the season now for painting. I only have about two weeks, maybe three, of weather left before working outside will be plain unpleasant. My plan is for next weekend, to replace the few very obviously bad rivets. Do a splash test and see what happens (quick dip in the lake to see what is leaking).





 
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Bet that's a good feeling to have all of that nasty paint off. I'm right behind you with my Chief, just the bottom left.

All your geese and cranes are flying over my house so I know cold weather isn't far off now. If you don't have a place to get the Naden indoors and off from the side of the road then I wouldn't be it painting either. I painted my SN upside down in the garage in a tarped booth and while off the trailer, I used the primer / paint drying time to rehab the trailer.

Have you decided on paint type and color scheme yet?
 

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I'm thinking white on the outside, with a red tailfin and stripe....
 

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Oh yea that will look very nice. Do you have a paint gun to spray?
 

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Yes - picked up an industrial compressor and a new HVLP gun for this. I'll have to pick up Rustoleum from the states when I next to to International Falls.
 

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Splash!

Glug glug glug

Well - it went better than I had expected. After replacing about 15 rivets. I put the boat in the water today, and it leaked....but only a little.

Of the four areas I fixed - the worst area didn't leak at all, which was good news. In the front of the boat, I replaced 6 rivets - they still leak, so I'll try Gluvit. In the middle, where I replaced a couple - they didn't leak at all. Found two additional leaking rivets - in the center behind the boat seat - that leaked a little - so they will need to be rebucked.

When I tried to replace two other rivets - the ribs underneath were cracked, and parts of the rib cracked off, so that will be a second area to be welded.







 

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Looking good Peter, in one of the photos it looks like you have the side of the hull polished?
 

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Those tabs are an interesting repair, I'm assuming by a PO? Just one cracked rib, that's not too bad, better than a whole rack of ribs!

Your at a milestone now, done with the tear down stage and onto hull repairs. Everything after that stage goes towards the finished product.

Winter is on the way, are you planning on hibernation up North or do you have a nice warm garage/shop?
 

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Looking good Peter, in one of the photos it looks like you have the side of the hull polished?

Thanks - I didn't polish it, but on the outside, I wirewheeled all the paint off, giving that effect. I still want to paint it. What the photos don't show is lots of scratches and dings, from years of being dragged in and out of the lake. My guess is that the paint will cover a lot of that up.

Those tabs are an interesting repair, I'm assuming by a PO? Just one cracked rib, that's not too bad, better than a whole rack of ribs!

Your at a milestone now, done with the tear down stage and onto hull repairs. Everything after that stage goes towards the finished product.

Winter is on the way, are you planning on hibernation up North or do you have a nice warm garage/shop?

The tabs are actually part of the original seating/flooring in the boat - there is a small 'step' - too small to be called a casting deck. The PO, rather than replace the busted rivets, simply put down 5200 thickly on the floor. Wasn't too bad to remove it. The only problem in replacing the rivets was it was a pig to get in there with the sledgehammer I was using as a backing plate. The underside of the boat is sufficiently dinged up in that location that the rivets didn't seat particularly well - so I suspect I'm going to have to do what I didn't want to do....use some 5200.

But when I do it, it will be pretty.

I'm really regretting not having an additional month of warm weather - the whole thing began moving much faster once the paint was off. Paint off to splash was only a couple of hours work...and that included the time it took to persuade the Admiral to be my bucking buddy.

Warm shop - yes....but in my basement, and the boat won't fit. Hibernation? Would be nice, but with four kids running around - not much chance of that.
 

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Some more good news - sold a bunch of parts off ebay. I was a little upset at parting out the second mostly good motor I had, particularly given that it looked pretty clean - but a bunch of buyers have motors that are running again, so that's good news. The even better news is that after all the sales are said and done, I've broken even - and effectively got a free motor out of the deal.

Thanks to everyone who helped me part the motor out - there were a number of tasks I could not have accomplished without either breaking something, or taking the motor to a mechanic. Advice from this site sorted out the problems pronto.
 
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That is good new, after a little tinkering you end up with a free boat and motor.
 

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Well, the boat is coming out of the snow, bit by bit by bit.....almost time to get working on this again.
 

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Hey look who came out of the red zone, it's time to get with it and tear into the Naden!
 

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Welcome back from the deep freeze, pc...:)
 

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Invite some Politicians to your house for a Debate on Global Warming!!. All that Hot Air will thaw that boat out in no time!!!!!:D
 

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Global warming? After five months of winter, all I can say is BRING IT ON.:D
 

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OK, much Shame after not having done ANY work on the Naden this summer, :watermelon:

Tthis has been the first weekend at home / without visiting family / without something on the honey do list to do. Got the Naden out, and using an air hammer this time, the admiral and I rebucked the leaking rivets. Only one of the ones I noticed last year still leaks, though I discovered a bank of them where there appears to be a very slow leak that didn't show up last year.:frusty:

The leaking rivet is one that I messed up when I installed it using a hammer and rivet rod, so I'm not going to try and re-drill and repair it. The plan is to have that welded along with three other points on the boat that need the services of someone more talented than I.

With respect to the bank of rivets, a rebuck should take care of them. Question - once the boat finishes draining, can I rebuck it then, or should I wait for a couple of days until I am sure it is dry?

 
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I hope you enjoy rebucking rivets... because that's what you're going to be doing in the future and from now on.

Rebucking an already weakened rivet is a temporary fix and the rivet will stretch and leak again.

Replacing leaking rivets will be your best long term fix.
 

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Hmmmm. The leak shows up on a seam, so I cannot identify the individually leaking rivet using a leak test. The individual rivets that I can identify as leaking I have replaced, or will be getting welded. I think what I'll do instead is splash the boat once the welding is done. If the leak shows up from the inside , then I'll replace the ones that are clearly leaking.
 
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