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    1986 50hp force OMG...

    Re: 1986 50hp force OMG... My bad. Anyways, here's the one with the points and condenser model. It seems the only parts swappable are the coils and plugs. So as suggested, you might want to investigate the points and condensers on the breaker plate. Of course, you can also swap the condensers...
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    1986 50hp force OMG...

    Re: 1986 50hp force OMG... If you swapped the CD modules and the problem persists, it is likely the problem is with the trigger ckt going to the top cylinder. Also check the brown wire from the #1 Cylinder CD mod is not grounding to anything. Or better yet while troubleshooting disconnect it...
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    How to know if I got a bad trigger?

    Re: How to know if I got a bad trigger? It sounds there has been more than one person who worked on the wiring. I highly recommend re-verifying all wire connections and all ckt resistance before going any further. After validating all connections and resistance readings, then it is time to do...
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    ignition problems, help!!

    Re: ignition problems, help!! When there is no spark at all you need to check for voltage output from the trigger ckt. It should be around 0.5V and if there is no voltage from the trigger take a resistance reading and it should be around 48-52 ohms. If there is voltage from the trigger, ensure...
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    1991 force 150 no spark

    Re: 1991 force 150 no spark If that diagram is not your engine's, then try this one.
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    1991 force 150 no spark

    Re: 1991 force 150 no spark It's time to do some serious troubleshooting. If the unit will not even cough (one or two plugs firing) during starting, disconnect all kill wires from the CDMs (don't let these wires touch ground), i.e. from the terminal board in the engine compartment and then try...
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    Rewiring kill switch on 1988 bayliner with 125 hp force

    Re: Rewiring kill switch on 1988 bayliner with 125 hp force The two wires from the "kill switch" are connected to the "M" terminals of the ignition switch. One of these terminals is connected to ground while the other connects to the white wires off the CDM which when grounded turns off the...
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    Show me you?re Torque Wrenches

    Re: Show me you?re Torque Wrenches I used the dial type and I have one of each, 0-120 inch-# and 0-50 Ft-#. For anything larger I have the click type 0-150 ft-#. My most used one for doing boat fixes is the 0-50 ft-# although for torques lower than 10-ft-# I used the smaller inch-# torque...
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    Question about Wiseco Pistons

    "Ignore the warning to provide extra clearance--this is for racing only. I use Wiseco exclusively on my engines. They are forged, which is stronger than stock. They are easier to assemble, and they come complete with wrist pins and rings." This is comment from Frank A from previous thread. My...
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    no key start

    Re: no key start Sorry to hear about the unfortunate coil burning. Obviously, this was caused by improper wiring. No battery power is ever to come into the coils at any given time regardless of the position of the key switch. Coil packs only get their power straight from the stator and their...
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    Rectifier wiring problem

    Re: Rectifier wiring problem Not a picture but a wiring diagram. I'm not sure which model is yours but this has two diagrams on it.
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    1988 Force 125: Carb rebuild and timing set needed?

    Re: 1988 Force 125: Carb rebuild and timing set needed? This is the basic instruction for setting timing (static). 1. Remove spark plugs from the engine. Others also disconnect the fuel lines or remove the carb bowls to prevent fuel mix getting into the cylinders. Just make sure you do the...
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    89 force 85 timing marks

    Re: 89 force 85 timing marks Static Engine Timing 1. Remove spark plugs from the engine. 2. Connect a spark tester or spark board to all spark plug wires. This will prevent the outboard from starting during the test. 3. Remove the propeller. 4. Attach a timing light to the number one cylinder...
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    Yet again another 1985 Force 85hp spark issue!!

    Re: Yet again another 1985 Force 85hp spark issue!! This is the only one I can find. You might want to save it and enlarge and print it.
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    Force 125hp wiring diagram

    Re: Force 125hp wiring diagram Here's one but not sure how good it'll come out. You might have to enlarge and print it out.
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    wiring diagram for 1987 bayliner 50hp force that has a trigger and stator

    Re: wiring diagram for 1987 bayliner 50hp force that has a trigger and stator Here's a diagram which I believe applies to your model engine, Prior to 1988 "D" 50 HP the bottom one is the "D" model which started in late 88 up to 1999. Anyways, I've been working with two other members about the...
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    1988 Force 50HP cranking with only one CD coil pack OK?

    Re: 1988 Force 50HP cranking with only one CD coil pack OK? I think with new stator and CDI it will be better if you connect everything back together including the brown wires and regulator and check for sparks. If there's still no sparks, then start the troubleshooting again starting with the...
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    1988 Force 50HP cranking with only one CD coil pack OK?

    Re: 1988 Force 50HP cranking with only one CD coil pack OK? So you have the both blue wires together and both yellow wires together from the stator and read voltage across the blue and yellow and got 300VAC? If that is correct, then you need to measure the volts output of the trigger wires...
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    '91 90HP Force outboard - Colored Wiring Diagram Issue

    Re: '91 90HP Force outboard - Colored Wiring Diagram Issue Here's one without the plug connector. You will need to double click it or save it to enlarge it.
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    88 force 50 doesn't shut off

    Re: 88 force 50 doesn't shut off There are two "M" contacts on the ignition switch. One of them is either white or black/yellow which connected to the CDM. This is the stop wire for the CDM which if grounded will stop the engine. This happens when you turn the ignition in the "Stop" position...
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