hull extension in progress with pics

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good news ...and bad..!i may have sold the 4.3.........that means if it is sold there is a cash injection into the budget!.....but....it also means that the water test may have to wait for more parts!
 

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OHHHH MAN !!!! I want to see her run !!!!!but that still leaves the vet motor ?? right ??? John
 

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yep.....the 350 vette motor is going to go in, but it needs to be marinized.......i can get most of the parts right now.....but i still need a few things built.....like a starter and an alternator......that may take some time......but the guys right across the compound are pro rebuilders...so we will see how soon i can get this in and running.........im currently finishing the dash and prepping for paint!
 

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the 4.3 was just for water tryals.....and never considered to be the final motor for the boat
 

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oops,

let me know if the 4.3 deal falls through...

Good progress on the benches!
 

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.but the guys right across the compound are pro rebuilders...

I was gonna say you didn't have far to go to find a good shop.

Course, not sure I'd trust them based on their name and stuff

;)
 

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Oops,

If the 4.3 gets sold and you use the 4 bolt main 'Vette block for trials, I don't know if I will be able to keep up! You will be easy to spot though if I fall behind:p
Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Yar.
 

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Took me 5 days here at work to go through the whole thread; I have 2 words:

AWESOME & INSPIRING :D

Keep up the great work Oops!

I'm for sure going to share your joy when this beast is finished!

Cheers!
 
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i'm new to and because of ooppss i've started my own resto project. and dying to see the next set of update photos. i still have a few questions about different subjects but you all of you guys i'm sure to get all the right answers. So on to the tear-out.
 

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oops,

let me know if the 4.3 deal falls through...

Good progress on the benches!

sorry i didnt answer the pm cuda.....i was really in a hurry and then forgot.!

it would not have made financial sence to buy this 4.3 cause of the distance shipped.....it would have cost you well over 4 grand just for the motor!
 

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Took me 5 days here at work to go through the whole thread; I have 2 words:

AWESOME & INSPIRING :D

Keep up the great work Oops!

I'm for sure going to share your joy when this beast is finished!

Cheers!

i'm new to and because of ooppss i've started my own resto project. and dying to see the next set of update photos. i still have a few questions about different subjects but you all of you guys i'm sure to get all the right answers. So on to the tear-out.


thanks for the encouragement and welcome to i boats!
any questions.....just ask!
 

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as i had mentioned earlyer........when i went to gellcoat the benches and the swim grid.......i had used PVA as a mold release agent....the pva needs to be atomised to be effective however it can be rolled or brushed on.

when i started to apply the pva with the gellcoat gun......it went off in the tubes......jammming the gun with in a moment!

pva washes off with soap and water.....so the gun was dissasembled and washes with warm water........it was a real pain in the ..........i ended up brushing the pva on to all of the moulds.

after that crazy session ....i was finally ready to shoot the benches and swim platform with gellcoat........noklu was right there helping....he was mixing and i was shooting the molds......every thing was going ok....

i should add at this time........ondarvr was in the area earlyer that week and we had talked about the shoot......i had only got a gallon of gellcoat, i had thought that was lots, but after doing the calculations with rvr.....i found out that i had too little gellcoat.
he suggested that i use fiberglass resin as an additive......mixed at a 15% ratio i had just enough to do the shoot in a pressuer pot hvlp.

we were also using ddm 30 at a 1.9% gellcoat/resin to catylest ratio.

the ddm 30 is the summer mix of mekp.....this allows a slower cure than mekp in hotter temps.....

that day i had the heat to 78 deg in the shop for the gellcoating.

the first part of the shoot went great!.... i shot the swim grid once then did each bench with the first coat of gellcoat.
thats when murphy showed up again!
after the first pot of gellcoat, noklu had another batch mixed up and ready....i opend the can and poured the next batch in the pot.......when i went to shoot it.....there was nuthing.....nope.....nada.....i opened the can up again, i found that the seal in the jar was toast and i didnt have a spare......i tryed to re-seal the can several times.....but to no avail.......
no klu quickly poured the gellcoat on to the mold and rolled it into place while i took the gun apart and dumped the thing into a can of aceitone.

one of the problems we had with rolling the gellcoat into place was that the mold was white......so was the gellcoat!so we really didnt know what thickness we were applying the gellcoat if any at all!.

sorry i didnt get pics of the gellcoating process....i was kinda busy!

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after the gellcoat was applied and semi cured....i glassed the swim grid with a 1.5 oz layer of matt...(csm)

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special attention was also paid to the edges of the swim grid.

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again.....as with all glassing.....each piece of fiberglass is cut and fit before the resin is mixed.....this is a 1708 biax

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ondarvr suggested to make the corners thick....as thats where somebody will hit them at the dock.

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the corners presented a special challenge as the glass was going in three different directions......easy with csm but not the biax......

oh.....by the way.....my faverout roller holder came into play here.

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after a gazillion layers of glass was layed in the platform....i needed extra insurance of stiffness and also somthing to bolt the bracket that will hold the platform to the transom on to.

the answer??????

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3 inch plastic pipe! !

i sliced that sucker in half with a circ saw......knocked the burrs off with a palm sander and done!

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the curve of the pipe will make a really strong back bone for the platform. the curve it self (after glassing) will be super strong
the peices needed to be glassed into place......csm got this call.

first the pipe was scuffed....i used a slight bend in the swim platform so the water would run off easily.....that means the pipe needed to be pressed into place for fiber glass tacking......i had just added a layer of csm ....so the resin was wet when i placed these in to the grid.
my paper weights came in handy for this.

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the pieces were tacked in with glass.

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after the tack was partially hardened....it came time to fully glass them in

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i was getting sooooo sick of glassing at this point in the project.

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i wasnt worried about a perfect glassing job here....(as you can see).....i just wanted the glass to form a shape.......and it did.

it was getting cool out and the resin wasnt going as far as i wanted it to.
i had been keeping it on a cold concrete floor ......so it needed to be heated.

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this little trick really worked well

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i had been using a wet out table for the most part of this job...(the green area)

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the wet out table really saves resin on the piece....i also wanted to keep the weight down.

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finally it was done!.......the fabbing of the swim platform......start to finish was less than 14 actual man hours.
 

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the next morning it was time to finally pull the molds.......all of em.

and.....well........it was a disaster !

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first of.....the pva release agent didnt work well and the gellcoat was sticking to the mold......it was really hard to get out!

here you can see the gellcoat on the mold

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instead of hearing that nice crisp "crack" and having the part pop out of the mold.....i litterly had to break the mold apart to get the part out.

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but finally ...out it came!

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it had several problems....first...on top of the gellcoat sticking to the mold....some of the gellcoat started to agulate on the glass.......(it came out all wrinkly)....this was caused by several factors.....

the gellcoat is really thin in several places......and it needs a lot of repair....but oh well ! thats just the way it goes.

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the swim grid also had its problems.

for some reason the tape i used started to wrinkle....it dident on other projects i had done.

i also had a piece of the foam move on me

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im not happy with the platform at all....but its still salvageable.
 

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im possibly going to make another platform in the future this time ill use a plug and have murphys butt kicked out of town.

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but these are done for now.

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the configureation of the benches will look like this.

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the next thing to do is fabricate the arm consoles and the dashboards....

cheers
oops
 

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oops
I like your pipe trick, When I made furniture we took green 12 inch sewer pipe quartered it on the table saw and used it to make soft corners on cabinets then sprayed with auto paint.
 

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thanks for the encouragement and welcome to i boats!
any questions.....just ask!
Thanks mate:)

I've never glassed in my life, and by the looks of it, it's not an easy task.
Someday perhaps I decide on doing a project, and I'm sure this thread is going to be like my manual!

Nice progress.
 

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Thanks mate:)

I've never glassed in my life, and by the looks of it, it's not an easy task.
Someday perhaps I decide on doing a project, and I'm sure this thread is going to be like my manual!

Nice progress.

lol....thanks....i hope you find out what not to do.....BAAAA HAAA HAAAA

glassing in s cross between painting and carpet laying. its not that tough.....just getting the air bubbles out is a real pain.

small flat sections like a transom are real easy. and tabbing is a breeze.

ill be posting the pics of the arm consoles next.
 

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Hey.

You need to get this thing done so I expect you to be working on it tonight.

No sluffing off watching hockey or anything like that.

(Just P.O.'d that I gotta miss the game tonight as I'm writing my VHF test)
 
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