Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration SPLASHED!

Decker83

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Happy New Year.

May 2012 be the best yet.
 

WeldZilla

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The work you have done to this SeaRay is just amazing. I am sure that boats thanks its lucky stars every night that you were the guy to come along and bought it!! you got love it.

WZ
 

Friscoboater

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Thanks for the lead. To be honest, that is way over priced for the boat. If it was all original and complete, but in need of restoration, maybe. I saw one just like that I passed on last week here in Dallas, and they guy was at 750 bucks. When they are taken apart, it makes them harder to asses what they need. I have to go on worst case scenario.
 

TexasA&M

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3. Get the prop "cupped" to help with bow lift

In regards to bow lift, you should look into getting a set of SmartTabs. I put a set on my 18' SeaRay and it made a HUGE difference. They are cheap (to buy), easy to install, and they work great.

http://www.nauticusinc.com/smart_tabsSX.htm

Here is a picture of the back of my boat with them installed. These will be one of the first things I do if/when I get another boat.

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joewithaboat

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In regards to bow lift, you should look into getting a set of SmartTabs. I put a set on my 18' SeaRay and it made a HUGE difference. They are cheap (to buy), easy to install, and they work great.

http://www.nauticusinc.com/smart_tabsSX.htm

Here is a picture of the back of my boat with them installed. These will be one of the first things I do if/when I get another boat.



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Wow :eek: Smart tabs, Fin, and a five blade prop... That thing must leap out of the hole!
I have smart tabs on a 19 foot bow rider and can not believe the difference they made. The best money I ever spent on a boat. I will put them on everyone I own from here on.
 

UncleSpidey

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Congrats on the Mac Jay.....you will NOT be disappointed.

Great news on the trailer title. FWIW, I'd love to see some video on the trailer work.

Spidey
 

Pmccraney

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Just saw the new youtube vid.... You will not regret getting the MAC... A must have for your DIY video endeavors... Your game was already very high, but you will be on a whole 'nother level...

I use to think "MACs" and Green Egg grills were the biggest fad cliches ever... Now, I own both (and swear by them)... You get what you pay for (except in the case of P.O. fraud in boat acquisitions)...
 

Friscoboater

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I am loving it so far. It is taking some getting used to. The problem with youtube is that you cannot use copyrighted audio in your vids, and that is what I have been doing lately, but I cannot upload them.
 

Pmccraney

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It let me upload a couple with copyrighted songs, provided I did not "monetize" them... You are probably on full-time monetize with your channel, legions of subscribers, sold out speaking engagements, tv pilots, etc..., which is my they might be requiring all original content for you.

Sometimes, you can fiddle with the monetize settings and click that it does have copyrighted audio in it, but that you make no claim to that part of it, give credit to the creator, etc...

Just shoot me a pm if you want to try and trouble shoot it or you have any MAC questions.

Have a good one.
 

jcazboater

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Just caught up on the last 3 or 4 videos. You must do construction videos, no question.

With your abilities, I'm not sure why you're even considering buying a swim deck. Build the form, spray gelcoat and apply fiberglass. You could even do custom stuff like inlay the boat name n whatnot.
 

Friscoboater

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Re: Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration

Hey guys, I have a little update for you all. I have been looking for a replacement outdrive for the Sea Ray for a while for two reasons. One is the fact that the lower shaft of my Bravo is twisted due to a impact at some point in its life, and second I wanted to see if I could rebuild one. I soon found out that even a decent used drive was bringing close to 1500 bucks. So when I saw a rebuilt bravo one on CL list for $500, I was intrigued. I called the guy expecting him to say it was 1500, not 500, but that was not the case. This guy owns a marine shop on Possum Kingdom Lake, which if anyone heard, most of the lake acreage burned last year. He lost his shop to the fire, and is now working from a trailer on his land trying to make ends meet. When I asked him why he is selling it so cheap, he just told me he needed to make it though the winter, and he found selling in volume works better for him right now. Who am I to argue. He gave me a receipt with the serial number on it, and a six month warranty. I know that probably means nothing, but I asked around that area, and he seams to be very well known, and liked.

Anyway, I bought it from him and we headed home. On the way back we drove around the nice part of the lake where all the vacation homes were, and the devastation from the fires last year is stunning. There are entire neighborhoods of luxury homes gone, where only the foundation is left. There is a place called "Hells Gate" where some really nice homes were, and there is almost nothing there. My tender hearted daughter started checking back tears as we drove through the devastation. Guys, it looks like a bomb went off.

So on we go. We got home and I had no time to mess with the drive, but yesterday I build a little pressure tester thanks to the post in the adult only section. She held 9.5 PSI for 20 plus hours. I turned the shaft a few times, and it did not drop a bit. So that checks out fine, and the great oil was not muddy, so I may have just lucked out.

I do have a big question for you Merc guys. I have read differing opinions on pressure testing a dive. Some say you should vacuum test it also, and others say you only to that on Volvo drives, and Mercruiser will not hold a Vacuum. What is best practice?

Her are some pictures from the trip, and the outdrive

This is my artsy side. I thought this picture tells the story of the dependent relationship a car has with oil.

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Almost every tree out there was burned

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This once was a high end neighborhood

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The lake is way down

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More of the devastation

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However, they are rebuilding, and things are starting to get back to normal

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I could not resist taking a picture of the boat.

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Friscoboater

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So now for the pictures of the outdrive.

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And here is my little pressure tester. I found it in the adult only section. I used a gear oil refill tube from sierra with the metal fitting that attaches to the drive, not the plastic one. I then cut the line in half, added a T fitting and then added the gauge. Once that was done I used a air fill nozzle for a car tire with the fat bulb end cut off. I then added clamps, and viola!

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And some video. I have upgraded to a MAC and Final Cut pro, so let me know what you think about the new videos quality.

Also help me out by clicking a few adds to help out me and my sponsors. It helps finance all these ventures.

 

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We were in Yosemite right after a big fire years ago, it was as you descibed: heartbreaking & devastation like a bomb had gone off. There weren't many homes damaged, but wow is right. No thanks, glad I've never been there to see it 'live'.

Congrats on scoring an outdrive. Hope it pays off big! headed to watch your latest vid. Later... Have a good week
 

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Does anyone know if you should vacuum test these drives? I have read conflicting answers.
 

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To PROPERLY pressure test an outdrive, you drain all the gear lube, then you pressureize the drive to 12 to 15 psi, turn the shafts, and the shifter while spraying soapy water on all the seals. If that doesn't find the leak, put the drive in a tub of water and look for bubbles.
The vacuum test seldom shows a leak, the input shaft seal will not hold vacuum. If it will holds 4 inches of vacuum, it should be good to go.
I won't comment as I have no idea, but Don S. certainly knows a bunch/ton/bushel/peck depending on where yous find yous-self;).......................
 

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Jay,

I have not personal knowledge but..

I found this here on the forum

May 19th, 2011, 09:15 PM #6 dubs283
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Re: mercruiser outdrive water in the oil


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Originally Posted by kd7isf
You may actually need to do a vacuum test rather than a pressure test



vaccuum test is only good on the lower half

the yoke seal in the upper is not designed to keep water out because there should be no water present in the u-joint bellows

to OP:

a pressure test on the complete drive assy will show the leak, use a soapy spray solution on seal areas to ensure accuracy

also, you say you have replaced multiple gimbal bearings?? why?? is there water in the u-joint bellows??​


Sometimes when people try to save a penny, they end up spending a dollar

It is best to fully understand how to properly operate, inspect, troubleshoot and repair your equipment​

 

GT1000000

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Just wanted to drop in and say GREAT score on the outdrive! Hope its good to go...
 

Friscoboater

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Jay,

I have not personal knowledge but..

I found this here on the forum

May 19th, 2011, 09:15 PM #6 dubs283
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Re: mercruiser outdrive water in the oil


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Originally Posted by kd7isf
You may actually need to do a vacuum test rather than a pressure test



vaccuum test is only good on the lower half

the yoke seal in the upper is not designed to keep water out because there should be no water present in the u-joint bellows

to OP:

a pressure test on the complete drive assy will show the leak, use a soapy spray solution on seal areas to ensure accuracy

also, you say you have replaced multiple gimbal bearings?? why?? is there water in the u-joint bellows??​


Sometimes when people try to save a penny, they end up spending a dollar

It is best to fully understand how to properly operate, inspect, troubleshoot and repair your equipment​



I think I am more confused. Did he say to test it or not. I read somewhere that Dan mentioned that drives will not hole a vacuum over 4. My drive held the pressure for 20 hours.
 
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