Here I go again!! 1995 Sea Ray 220 Signature Deck and Stringer Restoration SPLASHED!

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Well look at you, lol,
Some folks never learn.
I just had to say that Jay, It will take some time to catch up on your thread too. I don't get a lot of time away from work but I will try to get caught up soon.
Take care my friend.
 

jasoutside

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I really think this will be my last wood core boat.

Come on over! We'd love to have ya Jay!:D:D:D
 

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the stock tires gm uses on their trucks are horrible I agree, those h2s will look good on there. I just pulled off my stockers and put on some 285 nitto duragrapplers and wow what a difference especially in the snow. bad part is you do loose some fuel mileage and don't forget to reflash for calibrating the speedo ,and shift points for the ally trans. thedieselplace is another awesome forum dedicated to the dmax diesels. Ive got about 27000 mi. on my 2008 dmax with about a 100 hp tune currently in it and no kitty or dpf plus some other goodies and man those things will fly, you will be very happy with it for a long time. BTW that is one sweet boat and its gona look good behind that new truck.
 

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Hey Jay,

Nice truck! You can pull both boats at the same time. Maybe get a train horn too..:D

The boats coming along fast. This weather does help. I think the biggest deciding factor on using one layer of ply or 2 glued together will be the length of your run (<= 8 ft). It looks like your centers were 2 part just ahead of the motor. That will make it easier to fit.

There's a guy on the 'tron site who did something I wish I would have thought of. Once he had the hull smoothed down, he glued in long strips of 1208 along the chines where the stringers will join the hull. The strips were approx. 3-4" wide. Seems that would add a lot of strength and protection against pressure points. It would also give you a smooth, clean surface to bond your stringers to. Just a thought.

Here's the link: http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=169&start=30

I'm surprised your bone saw didn't work for you. Mine zipped through heavy roving right down flush to the hull.
 

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I have been following along and must say you are doing a great Job as you did on the Glastron (I love that boat). Yesterday I was looking at Glastron's site and after seeing you comment above regarding wood core boats I had to post this. http://www.glastron.com/design-construction.aspx. Their boats are now built using a one-piece composite fiberglass stringer system. My next boat will be a Glastron. Keep up the good work.

Mike
 

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Doing a great job on the ray!!!!! congrats on the new truck you will love my brother has the same truck!!!!! keep up the great work always looking froward to seeing your progress :D
 

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I have been following along and must say you are doing a great Job as you did on the Glastron (I love that boat). Yesterday I was looking at Glastron's site and after seeing you comment above regarding wood core boats I had to post this. http://www.glastron.com/design-construction.aspx. Their boats are now built using a one-piece composite fiberglass stringer system. My next boat will be a Glastron. Keep up the good work.

Mike

Glastron is not what it once was. There are several boats that are better that have a wood-less construction.

Doing a great job on the ray!!!!! congrats on the new truck you will love my brother has the same truck!!!!! keep up the great work always looking froward to seeing your progress :D

So far I love this truck.

Hey Jay,

Nice truck! You can pull both boats at the same time. Maybe get a train horn too..:D

The boats coming along fast. This weather does help. I think the biggest deciding factor on using one layer of ply or 2 glued together will be the length of your run (<= 8 ft). It looks like your centers were 2 part just ahead of the motor. That will make it easier to fit.

There's a guy on the 'tron site who did something I wish I would have thought of. Once he had the hull smoothed down, he glued in long strips of 1208 along the chines where the stringers will join the hull. The strips were approx. 3-4" wide. Seems that would add a lot of strength and protection against pressure points. It would also give you a smooth, clean surface to bond your stringers to. Just a thought.

Here's the link: http://www.classicglastron.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=169&start=30

I'm surprised your bone saw didn't work for you. Mine zipped through heavy roving right down flush to the hull.

I read his post from start to finish and that might be a good idea. I did not see where he used a bedding though.
 

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Here is the video and some pictures from this weekend.



Mmmm... Nice

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Hole where water wicked in

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All clean

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Oh... and the new rims and tires for the Dmax. She is missing the center caps, but they are on the way.

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Good video Jay, I vote for seacast on the transom....if it leaks around the drain (and it will), no rot. I'll even come down and help you pour it!
 

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Frisco that truck is the ultimate rig BOW TIES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!! and nice work on the transom (go for the seacast!
 

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Glastron is not what it once was.

That's why I stick to the classic Glastron Carlsons...love the style...hate the rot.

I was hoping you were gonna pick up that CVC-18 you looked at a while back...but I get the desire to go bigger.
 

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Great work this last weekend Jay!

Wheels look awesome on the new rig!

Peace out!
 

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friscoboater:
I have the same exact truck as you got, but mine is white. I also out-fitted mine with many of the Banks Engineering Power products, such as: 1- 4" diam. "Monster" exhaust system; 2-Free flowing "Ram-Air" Intake System: 3-High performance 3-1/2" diam. "Boost Tubes" and Banks "Techni-Cooler" intercooler. Makes a BIG difference in the power output, while at the same time improving the diesel-milage, plus lowering the exhaust temperatures, and also reducing the diesel solids emission. Best vehicle I have ever owned, and I was born in 1940 so I have a lot of vehicle experience. I have hauled my boat across the country from S.F. Bay in Cal. to MO/Arkansas, and back, several times. So, you made a very good choice in selecting the right hauling rig. Congrats... ps I also really enjoy your renovation postings, as I'm presently doing the same with a '73 Silverline I bought while visiting MO. I find it amazing that you have time to do all the postings, picture taking and video filming, and still get some work done. Good job, UW
 

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Wow that's a thick hull. I bet she runs nice and smooth. No matter how bummed you were to find the rot, you know that boat was a good choice.

Wood free construction... A good friend of mine recently put trim tabs on his "wood free" built Renker. He was surprised at the amount of wood shavings produced as he drilled mounting holes in his transom.
 

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There are some amazing houses on your block.. I bet they love having you tearing away at boats in your driveway..

Love your new video.. Very informative
 

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Again great work Jay, I bet at least 85% of boats with wood transoms older than 5 years have similar rot or it's at least starting. Interesting to note that all that started around the garboard drain, not from the seal around the transom mount for the outdrive. A few years back I re-bed the screws for my depth finder in the transom, I held my breath when I took the screws out expecting to find water, but it was dry, no rot that I could see. I would have removed the fitting for the garboard drain too but it's covered in so many coats of bottom paint that it'd have to be chiseled off, LOL (salt water boat). Also I have read that salt water does not rot transoms, the microorganisms that eat wood (that's what rot is) can live in freshwater but not salt. So if a boat here has a rotten transom it's from rain water collecting in the bilge. We see pieces of drift wood on the beach and they are bleached grey but not rotted.
Since we talked about composite boats, and most are made that way now, I wonder what happens to a composite core when the penetrations are not well sealed. Up here I bet if moisture gets in when the temps drop below freezing you might get de-lamination, not rot but weakening in the structure all the same. Even if I do one day get that newer boat, I am going to take it to a good boat repair place here on the Island and have them take off the outboard (no more I/Os for me) and seal up the mounting holes, garboard drain, anything else that can let water in.

PS the truck looks great. I have an 07 Grand Cherokee with the Hemi, in the light weight (compared to the Ram truck) Jeep it's a rocket. Fastest vehicle I ever owned. I would have gotten a Ram, with a Cummins, but it would not fit in my driveway. Houses here are real small with 1940s size driveways. But the water is behind the backyard...
 

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What's happened to friscoboater? is he caught in a snowbank; stuck to his kitchen table by resin? The world waits........with us.
 

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Friscoboater,

Saw the video of your new truck.......nice.........like the color scheme / model.......will look real nice with the black mags..........I thought about getting that model but unable to find a low milage truck.........used trucks around here are expensive so I settled on SLT All Terrain 2011. This is a keeper for awhile!
 

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Man Jay at the rate your knocking this boat out your not going to miss much boating, Great work bud I wish I had your work ethic!!
 

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Great work this last weekend Jay!

Wheels look awesome on the new rig!

Peace out!

Thanks Bear!

friscoboater:
I have the same exact truck as you got, but mine is white. I also out-fitted mine with many of the Banks Engineering Power products, such as: 1- 4" diam. "Monster" exhaust system; 2-Free flowing "Ram-Air" Intake System: 3-High performance 3-1/2" diam. "Boost Tubes" and Banks "Techni-Cooler" intercooler. Makes a BIG difference in the power output, while at the same time improving the diesel-milage, plus lowering the exhaust temperatures, and also reducing the diesel solids emission. Best vehicle I have ever owned, and I was born in 1940 so I have a lot of vehicle experience. I have hauled my boat across the country from S.F. Bay in Cal. to MO/Arkansas, and back, several times. So, you made a very good choice in selecting the right hauling rig. Congrats... ps I also really enjoy your renovation postings, as I'm presently doing the same with a '73 Silverline I bought while visiting MO. I find it amazing that you have time to do all the postings, picture taking and video filming, and still get some work done. Good job, UW

I need to get with you and talk about the mods I want to do. I want to do a programmer, but I am going to wait a while and make sure nothing goes wrong under warranty.

Wow that's a thick hull. I bet she runs nice and smooth. No matter how bummed you were to find the rot, you know that boat was a good choice.

Wood free construction... A good friend of mine recently put trim tabs on his "wood free" built Renker. He was surprised at the amount of wood shavings produced as he drilled mounting holes in his transom.

I am loving this boat more and more every day, and yes I am glad I purchased it now.

There are some amazing houses on your block.. I bet they love having you tearing away at boats in your driveway..

Love your new video.. Very informative

All my neighbors are pretty cool, with the exception of one. We have a loophole in our Deed restrictions that allow this in your driveway. It cannot be seen from the street and it has to be covered.

Again great work Jay, I bet at least 85% of boats with wood transoms older than 5 years have similar rot or it's at least starting. Interesting to note that all that started around the garboard drain, not from the seal around the transom mount for the outdrive. A few years back I re-bed the screws for my depth finder in the transom, I held my breath when I took the screws out expecting to find water, but it was dry, no rot that I could see. I would have removed the fitting for the garboard drain too but it's covered in so many coats of bottom paint that it'd have to be chiseled off, LOL (salt water boat). Also I have read that salt water does not rot transoms, the microorganisms that eat wood (that's what rot is) can live in freshwater but not salt. So if a boat here has a rotten transom it's from rain water collecting in the bilge. We see pieces of drift wood on the beach and they are bleached grey but not rotted.
Since we talked about composite boats, and most are made that way now, I wonder what happens to a composite core when the penetrations are not well sealed. Up here I bet if moisture gets in when the temps drop below freezing you might get de-lamination, not rot but weakening in the structure all the same. Even if I do one day get that newer boat, I am going to take it to a good boat repair place here on the Island and have them take off the outboard (no more I/Os for me) and seal up the mounting holes, garboard drain, anything else that can let water in.

PS the truck looks great. I have an 07 Grand Cherokee with the Hemi, in the light weight (compared to the Ram truck) Jeep it's a rocket. Fastest vehicle I ever owned. I would have gotten a Ram, with a Cummins, but it would not fit in my driveway. Houses here are real small with 1940s size driveways. But the water is behind the backyard...

Very good point about the Salt water. Those pictures are breathtaking, and I am jealous of the one in the summer, but not the one with all the white stuff in it.

What's happened to friscoboater? is he caught in a snowbank; stuck to his kitchen table by resin? The world waits........with us.

I am here. Been busy with work, and have not had a chance to take a breath

Friscoboater,

Saw the video of your new truck.......nice.........like the color scheme / model.......will look real nice with the black mags..........I thought about getting that model but unable to find a low milage truck.........used trucks around here are expensive so I settled on SLT All Terrain 2011. This is a keeper for awhile!

It took me a long time to find this truck, and I had to drive a LOOONG distance to get it. Being burned by the boat I was really scared.

Man Jay at the rate your knocking this boat out your not going to miss much boating, Great work bud I wish I had your work ethic!!

My goal is memorial day.

I am going to get grinding wheels today and I am going to start really getting at the clean up tomorrow.

I am really thinking seacast for the transom now. How would I do that with an I/O? Does anyone know of a thread where someone did an I/O?
 
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