'79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

[Shife]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

When I'm grinding the epoxy do I need a respirator and everything or is it going to be ok with a normal mask kinda like this one?

Paper masks are pretty much useless. While cured epoxy (plastic) is inert and not a health hazard, you still don't want to be inhaling plastic dust. The 3M half masks you can get from the box stores are fine for most tasks. Make sure to use pre-filters so you're not constantly changing out expensive vapor cartridges. Note that the main cartrige is usually an organic vapor cartridge and has a short life span once out of its packaging. As long as you're not using the mask to filter out vapors this is fine. The pre-filters are what you are really using to block the dust. Just keep in mind that if you need to use the mask in an application to block vapors, you will need to install a fresh set of the appropriate vapor cartridges.

I stopped using half masks and switched to a full face style. I wear hard contacts and with the full face mask I don't have to worry about stuff leaking in and getting in my eyes. I now use a MSA Ultra Twin.

http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/product585.html

Edit: Never, ever ever ever, spray epoxy or a two-part catalyzed glue or paint without a positive pressure respirator or supplied air and the proper training. Inhaling a catalyzed two-part product in aerosol form is pretty much guaranteed to shorten your life span. Spraying epoxy adhesives that have been atomized without the proper PPE and procedures can be fatal.

We do not recommend spraying epoxy products because the health and safety risks are enormous. As epoxy leaves a spray gun nozzle, it is reduced to tiny droplets (spray mist). You can easily inhale epoxy that is suspended in the air. It can cause extensive lung damage and other health problems.

The spray mist can settle on your skin, causing sensitization and allergic reactions. It can settle on your eyes, injuring them.Compared to other application methods, spraying increases the amount of hazardous volatile components released from the epoxy. Using solvents to thin the epoxy for spraying adds to the health and safety risks. These hazards are similar to those of any spray painting operation, involving both health and flammability concerns.

If you are determined to spray epoxy, control hazardous vapor and spray mist by using isolation and enclosure, such as a properly designed, ventilated and filtered spray booth. In any case, if you spray epoxy, you must use an air-supplied respirator and full-body protective clothing!

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/other-epoxy-related-hazards/

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Hey thanks Shife, good info there. Also a good reminder why we love our aluminum boats. The only roven mat on my rig is going to be a livewell and I'm not even sure about that. Might just use a cooler.

We are getting a real torrential downpour here in Lansing, the river is going to be flooded pretty good after all this.

 

[Shife]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Hey thanks Shife, good info there. Also a good reminder why we love our aluminum boats. The only roven mat on my rig is going to be a livewell and I'm not even sure about that. Might just use a cooler.

We are getting a real torrential downpour here in Lansing, the river is going to be flooded pretty good after all this.

We're getting it too. I really need to go buy an emergency sump pump. I've been too lucky so far. One of these days I'm going to come home to a very soggy basement.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

For my own reference and anyone's interest I thought I'd post a list of what still needs to be done in approximate order...

Stuff that will be done very soon...

Rivet in remaining aluminum pieces in ski locker DONE!
Apply second coat of epoxy to bottom side of all plywood DONE!
Attach seat base backing plates w/ epoxy and drill holes Cancelled
Final cleaning of interior hull including limber drains DONE!
Attach deck to stringers and ribs using screws w/ 3M 5200 DONE!
Install vinyl on main deck DONE!
Install vinyl on sides of hull DONE!
Build seat box for helm Postponed/cancelled
Wrap all smaller plywood pieces in vinyl Ran out of vinyl!
Paint all interior aluminum w/ Marine Rustoleum yellow
Install helm, switches, steering Almost done!
Reinforce bow structure w/ riveted aluminum pieces
Attach windshield to consoles(still need foam/rubber to seat frame on)
Attach the rest of plywood to interior, consoles, bow
Get Merc carbs rebuilt, new plugs, impellar and other maint
Once Merc is running great---new decals and paint

Stuff that will happen pretty soon...

Hook up fuse box and wire entire boat with new wiring
Paint all yellow trim on gunwales, exterior
Attach transducer, speed wheel and mount Garmin fishfinder
Reinstall SS rails, cleats, lights, SS rod holders DONE!
Paint exterior hull some shade of grey or white...undecided
Remove Mercury and rebuild transom
Attach kicker bracket for 5.5 Johnson
Strip rust off trailer
Prime and paint trailer w/ Rustoleum
Attach Starcraft decals on boat and trailer

Stuff that will happen even later on down the road($$)...

Make side cushions and mount to bow gunwale sides
Make snap-in removable cushions for bow seats in front of consoles
Build storage box in stern for cooler/livewell w/ elevated seat base
Buy and attach teak swim platform/ladder
Buy additional rod holders for the bow rails
Buy bow-mount troller and install
Buy some downriggers and install
Buy canvas top and bow cover(someday hopefully)

Did I miss anything?!?

Stuff I forgot...
Clean and oil teak ski locker cover
Build new side panels after deciding what materials to use
Fabricate and install rod storage on shelves
Buy VHF radio and antenna and install
Cutout hole for Eclipse CD player(already have it), buy speakers and install
Buy teak boards and install on gunwales
Build platform over splashwell possibly removable
Noodles and foam under deck DONE!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

You apparently stole my "stuff to be done later" list as it's nearly identical

 

[jasoutside]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Wow, that is one heck of a list! Prolly have it all wrapped up by Memorial Day I am thinking?

Man, I don't even want to think about my list!

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

You apparently stole my "stuff to be done later" list as it's nearly identical

Well great minds think alike Does that include the downriggers or is that why it's only "nearly" identical?

Wow, that is one heck of a list! Prolly have it all wrapped up by Memorial Day I am thinking?

Man, I don't even want to think about my list!

Uh...yeah...don't for a while.

If you put anything down on paper early in the project it will just be depressing and overwhelming, not to mention look very spendy.

On the other hand you do have more boxes to check off the list, maybe more rewarding?

We had a three page list that we made a few months ago but it got lost. I was hoping it would turn up so I could check off a bunch of boxes

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I added an entire section to the checklist of things I forgot earlier. Some maybe optional though. They look expensive

I have 10 more rivets to pop and I'm done with the ski locker aluminum things. I should have some pics later tonight.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I added an entire section to the checklist of things I forgot earlier. Some maybe optional though. They look expensive

I have 10 more rivets to pop and I'm done with the ski locker aluminum things. I should have some pics later tonight.

Oh, boy. The list is growing. That's ok I am sure you have forgot about a hundred other things.

Don't sweat it though, just head over to my thread, it'll make you feel better.

Maybe I'll go make a list now.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

All the rivets are in, it feels really solid and I'm glad that I went with this idea.

I left room for two more pieces, I have one left. So I might cut it in half and put them in the middle or just buy some more aluminum.

I was pricing some 6' angle pieces and I did get a great deal on these! I will be going back to them to buy all my tin.

I am very happy that three rods/reels fit in there easily. I can easily store extra poles in here as well.

I'm going to add a piece of marine vinyl as Bananaboater suggested and drill drain holes in it. Thanks for the idea Albert.

It will also hold a full size canoe paddle and skis

 

[Stratosman86]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Hey HA,
When you figure out what u are going to use as a gasket to seat your windshield on, shoot a pic. I am still not sure what to use here.

Thanks,
Darren

PS I am also trying to stay away from the list for now as I know it would be depressing. My wife keeps asking me do I know what I have spent so far and I keep telling her not to tell me. I secured a BPS credit card for the boat only and have charged all boat related items on it. I know I am already over budget as she has informed me that I need to move money from savings to checking to cover April's charges!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I used foam weatherstripping from Lowes for my windshield gasket.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Second bottom coat of epoxy resin is on the three main deck pieces
The edges still need to be coated again, but I want to do that with the pieces standing up so it will soak in correctly.

(there are a couple voids on the exterior grade, I didn't cough up the cash for marine grade)

 

[Triton II]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

It will also hold a full size canoe paddle and skis

Woohoo!!! Classic ski for a classic boat! Over here that ski would be in a museum!

TII

 

[mccurtis]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Your boat is going to be very nice. How long have you been working on it? What has been the most challenging experiece with your rebuild?

 

[jasoutside]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Looks great HA! Hey, what would be your method of choice for spreading that epoxy? Looks like mid 60's for me to spread mine, not too bad I suppose.

Rock on buddy!

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Woohoo!!! Classic ski for a classic boat! Over here that ski would be in a museum!
TII

LOL I bought that at a garage sale for $3...not sure if it will ever be used We have a couple pair of newer skis as well.

Your boat is going to be very nice. How long have you been working on it? What has been the most challenging experiece with your rebuild?

I bought the rig in November and started tearing her down in December.

Dealing with the OB, steering and controls is my weakest area. As you can see I haven't removed the Merc yet and the controls are still hooked up. "If it ain't broke don't fix it" seems to be my philospohy. If I had a 2-car garage I'd have removed it and built a stand but we didn't have room.

Looks great HA! Hey, what would be your method of choice for spreading that epoxy? Looks like mid 60's for me to spread mine, not too bad I suppose.

Rock on buddy!

We had pretty good luck with normal brushes. Try to find good ones that the bristles will not fall out of as the resin gets thick. Folks have mentioned that spreaders or trowel type things work well too and prevent wasting resin.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Starcraft mystery piece round II...any thoughts, ideas or humor are appreciated

Apparently there's only one of them so I was thinking it might go in the bow to support something?

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I was hoping to pick up a quart of the sunflower yellow on the way home from work but I called West Marine ahead and they said that no store in the entire state of Michigan has any

So I can order thru them and get it on thursday or order online and probably get it tues or wed. The West Marine price is the same as online even with shipping costs.

I'm thinking maybe going with a rustoleum so I can always get more when I need it. Not sure.

 

[jspano]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

H.A.

looks real good, where did you score the alum for your ski locker bottom(that looks sweet), got me thinking of stealing(i mean borrow) that idea.

the mystery peice looks like a flux capacitor, which we all know is needed for time travel, might have been an option that year.