'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

[fat fanny]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop lookin real good on the home stretch! That beast has allot of deck space. Have you made any plans for the bow area yet?

 

[Westport]

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OK, Need your advice folks....


I was looking under the hull today. I wanted to build a cradle to hold her so I could work on the trailer. I see many spots where light is shining through. Keel is banged up, normal use I'd say. What looks to be white paint in several places underneath. Gelcoat peeling in quite a few places. I know I really should do the hull. Should I save this for last or do it now while the inside is empty? I vote for now due to less weight to have to worry about.

1. Will I be able to address the issues with the hull upside down or will I need to flip it?

2. I need help with the correct process to fix the gelcoat. Sand it all off and start over?

3. Sub question to go with #2. Roll, Roll/Tip or spray? Keep in mind I work outside and the only spraying I have done came from spray paint can. I also have nada in tools for spraying.

I'll try to get some pics today of what I am seeing underneath...

The hull on my Marquis looks about the same way. Great thread BTW. I'm following this very closely.

 

[bear_69cuda]

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Brutha Troop!

Deck looks killer! Great work!

 

[retiredfornow]

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Hey Troop, you're not going to cover up that beautiful craftsmanship with a deck, are you?
Just funnin'. Nice work! Love all the pics you post.

 

[Trooper82]

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Hey Troop, you're not going to cover up that beautiful craftsmanship with a deck, are you?
Just funnin'. Nice work! Love all the pics you post.

You aren't kidding me...I just threw the stuff under the deck together...winged it so to speak.

And Thanks Sir!

Brutha Troop!

Deck looks killer! Great work!

Thanks Brutha Bear..a.. cuda...I'll be glad when I finally get to screw her down though...

The hull on my Marquis looks about the same way. Great thread BTW. I'm following this very closely.

Welcome aboard Westport..Glad to help keep anyone entertained that wants to take the time to go through the thread..maybe we can all learn a few things along the way too

Troop lookin real good on the home stretch! That beast has allot of deck space. Have you made any plans for the bow area yet?

Thanks F_Fanny..home stretch? lol....Maybe for cutting in the last section of deck plate..

Plans for bow...let's see...I have thought it over a few hundred times...but no real planes yet..Was thinking a nice platform to be able to stand on and fish....but almost afraid to put it in until I get her wet to see how she floats..Would hate to make it and feel like i was falling off all the time. I have never had this boat in the wter so not sure where the water line is and what angle it is.

Hope you are all having a good weekend. One day left of my vacation...I have almost completed what I had wanted to during this time off. Almost...

 

[Trooper82]

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Glad it was....ah...cough' cough'....cool today...Shees I can't get a break from this heat.

We hit 113 in the boat today...

Still managed to get the rest of the deck parts cut out ...Hard to see in this keyhole pic....but they are all 5 there..

I thought real hard about starting to finish the tabbing on the gussets, but it was so hot I didn't do it...

Worked on the Bow Eye instead..
2 pieces of 3/4" Aurocoply glued with Titebond III
Cut a couple angles and drilled some holes to help hold the PB and have a good connection with the hull...

Made some long strand chopped glass out of some scrap 1708 like WoG suggest..Thanks again Wood for the tip. I just unravelled it a little on the edge, grabbed the fray and pulled out rather nicely. I then cut it up about 1" long...Added a little 1/4" CSM chopped strand to it too.

Cut two layers of 1708 on top of it. Should be good to go..Took just a little more PB than I had made so it has small fillet on the sides, but I think it will be fine...

Once the afternoon sun was behind a tree I decided to get the bilge area completed. I cut out all the glass to make corner braces, tab/cap the stringers and cover the entire bottom of the bilge and tabs for those two gussets...I spent like 3 hours cutting this all out, then glassing it..and on my knees the whole time..Should have grabbed the knee pads sooner than I did...

Maybe tomorrow I can get the gussets capped. the bulkhead capped and a layer or two of csm/1708 on the bottom of the rear deck plate?If so...I'll be screwing that down...

 

[Woodonglass]

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That's a text book Bow Eye Reinforcement installation. EXCELLENT work!!! Very Nice glassin in the bilge too! Troop you are layin down some nice glass. I think you're getting the hang of it especially when you're "In the Shade!". Be Proud!!!!

 

[Trooper82]

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That's a text book Bow Eye Reinforcement installation. EXCELLENT work!!! Very Nice glassin in the bilge too! Troop you are layin down some nice glass. I think you're getting the hang of it especially when you're "In the Shade!". Be Proud!!!!

Thanks Wood, I really appreciate the compliments...Looking at that last pic, I am wondering if I should cut some pieces smaller, to fill in the low spots? Or am I just being anal?

I think I will need another 10 gals of resin...going through it fast...

That bow eye was a real pita....I should have left the deck in before doing it...would have been easier to reach - lol..

 

[Woodonglass]

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I'd wait and see if you have some left over PB sometime and use it to smooth and fill the low spots. It's just a bilge doncha know!!!

 

[Trooper82]

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Ya...I was thinking it would hide the seams when I put down the gelcoat...

 

[sphelps]

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Bow eye prep and bilge area looking sweet Troop !

 

[ezmobee]

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Top notch work.

 

[Pmccraney]

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Looks awesome! your hard work is paying off.

 

[Trooper82]

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Bow eye prep and bilge area looking sweet Troop !

Thanks SP...I want to put some gelcoat on it to see how it looks, but I know it is awhile before I can do that.

Top notch work.

Thank you Sir! Had a few bubbles when I checked it out this morning, but I can live with it.

Looks awesome! your hard work is paying off.

Thanks PMC..Slowly but surely...steady she goes...






Def gonna run out of resin hope I have enough to finish the bottom areas and the rest of the capping. Getting ready to do the gussets right now....Will have a pic in about an hour maybe....stay tuned...

 

[Trooper82]

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OK, here is the next update for today...BTW - it is already hot and humid...sweating like crazy...dripping on my fresh glass...hope that doesn't matter too much....


All six gussets were fitted with these...did a dry run, marked with marker and cut to fit.

Peeled the glass off, washed with acetone....
rolled some resin on the gussets, then wet the backside of the glass..Put it in place and worked on wetting it out and getting rid of bubbles. I tell you chasing bubbles on six different places on the hull will wear you out quick in this heat. I have had my knee pads on all morning, feels much better than yesterday...

Here is what I am doing next..biggest lay up to date I think. Plan is to leave it in place since it is formed well. I will fold it back on itself to wipe the hull/stringers with acetone, then wet the back side out and hull with resin at the same time. So I will do one half, then the other. then wet it all out and chase bubbles till it starts to set. Will post an update once I get that done...noon time sun is getting ready to start frying me...need fluids...

 

[Trooper82]

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Not sure if anyone else has experienced this, but I have and was getting tired of it. The roller frame I use has these little hooks that keep the roller out of the media in your tray. The issue, is when I am in the heat of the moment (no pun intended) and my safety glasses are all steamed up, I forget they are there and almost spill my resin.

Decided to cut them off today ....

I have said this before, but guess I have still not learned...when your thermometer says this.... it is too hot to lay resin...

I peeled back the 1708...washed with acetone....

Made a small batch to wet the hull/stringers.. 250ml

Should have thought twice when I noticed that as soon as I started mixing the mekp in it turned very dark...(I had 1k ml sitting in a tub to make pouring easier)

Went ahead and rolled it on...

Mixed 500ml to wet the back side out...in less than a minute I had this.....

Still not thinking right (must be heat stroke?) I decided to pour 500 ml from the bucket, mix it...

Laid the glass out...wet it down, and it was starting to set...FAST!


Pulled it up...barely..threw it out of the boat in disgust...got resin all over my right arm in the process...that stuff burns quick...

Now I have this wad of useless 1708 and am missing a bunch of resin...really not happy with myself right now!

 

[klassenkid]

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your strings and deck look real professional, hope my work will look like that. Mistakes happen and luckily you didn't have to grind it out so dont be to hard on yourself

 

[Trooper82]

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your strings and deck look real professional, hope my work will look like that. Mistakes happen and luckily you didn't have to grind it out so dont be to hard on yourself

Thanks Klassen. If you listen to the folks around here, do your research...your work will turn out looking as good or better than mine. I just threw this all together...got in a hurry today though. Was sitting in the shade for about an hour, didn't think it was too hot, till the gel started happening.

Guess I will go out and clean up around the boat. I have a bit of a mess back there...

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

R U still keeping the Resin in the Fridge???

 

[74bayliner]

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Hey troop. sorry to say but it looks like your going to have to make some time in the evening when it starts to get cooler

Also may be a good idea to mix a small batch and see how quick it sets... and maybe not add as much catalyst... but than again i am talking out of my herher.. because i have not used resin yet... so it may be that if you put less catalyst you get less of a bond. but i dont know just shootin out ideas.