1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

jeffer

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I think you will be more impressed once you get it cleaned and dried out. May not need to much work. Darn shame a guy would not put a tarp over the boat. Not to bright I think. Good luck I would put on a sea drive and a decent 150 O/B. If the present set up wont work. Keep us posted. Is the engine cover with the boat??
I fell same thing. Go ahead and we are here for giving any kind of help. I need good sitting facilities. So try to do it modernized. Okay don't mind.:p
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

i will follow ur lead.
thanks

Be careful doing silly things like that!!!

Nice work Jason, are you going to clear coat the trim or just polish it and let it "age"?

Hope the weather gets better for all of you guys (and gals) over there.

TII

A word about your trim. I was speaking with my powder coater about some options about my aluminum handrails. They are in rough shape and I am either going to have to refinish them or replace them. My powder coater guy recommended I polish them and then let him CLEAR powder coat them so they will not corrode. I have never seen clear powder coat, be he did show me some custom polished wheels that had been done. I am really considering it. If you can remove that trim it may be a viable option for you as well. You could keep that brushed look, and not worry about it turning white with corrosion later.

just a thought

drewp

Yah fellas, I am with ya....

Basically what I was thinking is that I would polish them up once a year along with my beginning of season routine. That was my plan anyway.

What do you think? Bad idea? Good idea?

Drew - that trim isn't going anywhere so you have me wondering about a clear coat that maybe I can put on since they are in place? Hmmmmm.... I think I need to do a little research I think.


I knew as soon as I put the sand paper to it that I would need to go one of three directions...

1. paint (would rather not do this)

2. treat (clear coat or something) - maybe this here: http://www.por15.com/GLISTEN-PC/productinfo/GPCGG/

3. yearly polish (or more often maybe, dunno?)

What do you guys think??? I definitely appreciate your suggestions!:D

I sure didn't want to leave it the way it was as it was chewed up pretty good.
 

dozerII

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Boy, your making some great progress Jas. It is not a lot of fun being in all that sanding dust. I don't know about you guys across the border buy it is not even winter yet, and I am tired of it up here.
Glen
 

fshngho

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Obviously the trim will exposed to the elements, but I just can't see the trim dulling down that quick. I would think a yearly touch up would be fine. Powder coat is some tuff stuff but the nicks, scrapes would show up worse?? I think I will try to leave my trim naked and I could always go another route later if need be. I don't have near as much as you though Jas.
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

What you've done to the trim is more than sufficient for the budget rebuild you're persuing. It will not age that badly or quickly.
 

fogducker1

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jas Nice job I read the thread on the weekend. Was wondering if there is some reinforcement to do on the Transom. Gussets from transom to floor?? I have a Stringer on mine and would like to fill the "Big Hole" but also have read that the outdrive transfers all the stress to the stringers but with a mercruiser it is "forced" on the transom. Thoughts?
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Boy, your making some great progress Jas. It is not a lot of fun being in all that sanding dust. I don't know about you guys across the border buy it is not even winter yet, and I am tired of it up here.
Glen

Thanks buddy! Yah, I really wish I could have done all this work outside during the summer months, but I am at where where I am at, so I'll make the best of it!

I sort of feel like I am gaining on er though. It'll take me a little while to get that bottom hull prepped/primed/painted but once that is complete I can begin installing that Merc. I am really looking forward to moving ahead on that!

Obviously the trim will exposed to the elements, but I just can't see the trim dulling down that quick. I would think a yearly touch up would be fine. Powder coat is some tuff stuff but the nicks, scrapes would show up worse?? I think I will try to leave my trim naked and I could always go another route later if need be. I don't have near as much as you though Jas.

That is a good point - I suppose a fella could always paint or clear coat down the road if he wasn't happy with the results.

What you've done to the trim is more than sufficient for the budget rebuild you're persuing. It will not age that badly or quickly.

Yah, I guess I am thinking that if I polish them up once a year while I am doing a yearly wash/wax it really shouldn't be that big of a hassle.

Thanks for helping me keep an eye on my budget buddy, appreciate it!:D

Jas Nice job I read the thread on the weekend. Was wondering if there is some reinforcement to do on the Transom. Gussets from transom to floor?? I have a Stringer on mine and would like to fill the "Big Hole" but also have read that the outdrive transfers all the stress to the stringers but with a mercruiser it is "forced" on the transom. Thoughts?

Hey fogducker! Welcome! Glad you are here man!

Here is my take and plan on the issue...

My transom now is really no different that any other aluminum rig out there with a Merc that came original. If anything, with the extra aluminum skins (inside and outside) it's stronger. Plus, I added that aluminum "shim" which makes it even stronger yet. So, in short, I have full faith that my transom is plenty strong to handle the push that Merc will provide.

But check this out...
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You kinda need to look close, you can barely see them, but there is a pair of brackets that connect the transom to my stringers (sorry for the poor photo). That set up is obviously specific to the old OMC Stringer but I plan to reuse and install those brackets right back where they were for my new Merc setup. So, in essence, any push on the transom will be transferred to the stringers, and then transferred to the hull. I do think they are unnecessary but it makes the entire system that much better and that much stronger with hardly any extra effort on my part. My shade tree engineering tells me that I should have a super bomber set up for my transom.:D

Thanks for stopping by man! All the best on your project!
 

Huron Angler

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jason, have you considered putting in a ski locker for rod storage.

Looking at the photo of the old deck it occurred to me that you have lots of choices on where to stash rods. Either under the gunwales, in the cabin, or a ski locker.

Tons of room for downriggers and flush-mount rod holders for trolling too.

Not sure if you've addressed this yet, since you thread is too massive to search thru:p
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jason, have you considered putting in a ski locker for rod storage.

Looking at the photo of the old deck it occurred to me that you have lots of choices on where to stash rods. Either under the gunwales, in the cabin, or a ski locker.

Tons of room for downriggers and flush-mount rod holders for trolling too.

Not sure if you've addressed this yet, since you thread is too massive to search thru:p

Oooooo, I like thinking about rod storage, great question!

I was originally going to go with a rod locker in the hull but have since decided otherwise and will completely seal this deck - no sub deck storage.

Major reason? All of the rot that occurred on my old deck came at the corners or where aluminum trim was installed. I kinda feel like any spot where I am drilling holes or installing trim is another opportunity for water to win. I'd like to minimize holes and such as best I can. I'm certain that I am over thinking things but if I can help it, I'd like to avoid replacing this deck, ever.

Minor reason? Leaves a bit more room for flotation which is cool (especially if I swamp:eek:)

Clay helped me think through some rod storage solutions a while back for the gunwale area. I think that conversation is on his CC conversion thread.

My basic plan (at the moment anyway) is to build racks for the inside of the gunwale storage that hold 6 rods for each side (12 rods total).

Since I am a bit of a hand talker, and you can't see my hands, I have uploaded this super technical, very sophisticated, to scale blueprint that my boat architect drew up...
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Basically, 3 reel ends toward the bow, 6 rod tips midship, 3 reel ends towards the stern. Make sense?

I'll also have some big storage areas where my seat boxes will be. Great for tackle, jackets, sandwiches, Jen's home made brownies and whatever else.:)
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Man I hope you aren't the art teacher! :eek:
 

Deadwood

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I have uploaded this super technical, very sophisticated, to scale blueprint that my boat architect drew up...
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You sure that's not the sheet music to "Smoke on the Water"??:D
 

Huron Angler

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I vaguely remember NB's suggestion and it makes more sense to me now. I like that strategy. If my boat were longer I could do the same.:)

LOL @ Deadwood's comment.:D
 

fogducker1

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The joys of having a bigger boat. I can only seem to fit three level wind reels and rods in each side of the Holiday but they should be in the water anyway. :)
 

jspano

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

your diagram made prefect sense to me when i laid eyes on it.
my cc had 3 holders on each side and six more on the console and plan on doing it again
 

jasoutside

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Man I hope you aren't the art teacher!

You sure that's not the sheet music to "Smoke on the Water"??

Dudes, I could totally be an art teacher! Check it out...

Lately I have been thinking about putting together a club, IO owners club actually. I have been working on the T shirt design, tell me what you think EZ...
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Some people think I am an artist and a poet;)

If my boat were longer I could do the same.

The joys of having a bigger boat. I can only seem to fit three level wind reels and rods in each side of the Holiday but they should be in the water anyway.

You guys ought to think about a bigger boat maybe??

Have you looked into the Islander models? They are great! Check em out!:D:D;)

your diagram made prefect sense to me when i laid eyes on it.

I'm sure the artists rendering made it easy;) Thanks for checking in jspano!
 

Triton II

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your diagram made prefect sense to me when i laid eyes on it.

Prefect sense? Isn't that something you get at school from those nasty senior year prefects? :D

Seriously, I know what you mean Joe, and I agree, sometimes the simplest diagrams are the clearest. Looking good Jas! :cool:

TII
 

sprintst

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I can totally see it. Is it a zonk poster. If I stare at it without focusing I can see the rods with the reels on the ends and the tips in the middle with all the eyelets along the way. :)

I couldn't make out the brands on the reels and rods but I dig it. I was thinking the same but will run some lights and wiring in there and wasn't sure the kids wouldn't snag it.

I still have to figure out what I'm going to do.

PS Let me know when the shirts are for sale :)
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

sometimes the simplest diagrams are the clearest. Looking good Jas! :cool:

TII

Thanks TII! Hey buddy, you think my plan on my alum trim is aok Aussie approved?

If I stare at it without focusing

This is pretty much the way to look at my whole rig man - "She looks great! Though, I'm not really focusing on it at all."

Yah buddy, you are definitely in the IO club, tshirt your way!;)
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey, great day today! I actually have a piece of stainless steel hardware permanently installed, check it out...

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And I've got another eye bolt just like it (all sealed up with 4200) on the other side too, cool!

These were pilfered off Thumper the Baja, really big and beefy, like em:D



OK, for all you guys who are planning to paint your deck rather than carpet or vinyl, check this out...

These are "rubber granules"...
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I found them here: http://www.bestmaterials.com/detail.aspx?ID=17945

My original plan was to go with Durabak as it looks like really great stuff. I started to add up the costs, got a little sticker shock, and started hunting to find an alternative. Found these guys and they were excited to ship me a sample.

With the cost provided in link above, and add in the cost of Rustolium, my rough calculations tell me that I can probably do the same job for about 1/2 the $$ maybe. Just rough numbers mind you.

Good stuff? I kinda think so:)
 
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