1964 Starcraft Jet Star Aluminum Runabout Project

1964 Starcraft Jet Star Aluminum Runabout Project

  • Rustoleum Marine

    Votes: 19 41.3%
  • Interlux Brightsides

    Votes: 16 34.8%
  • Pettit Easypoxy

    Votes: 11 23.9%

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lakelover

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Re: 1964 15' Starcraft Aluminum Runabout Project

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OK, it's later, a few pics.

What a difference a day makes.

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In this one you can see the crummy roller results on the second side. The first side is much more uniform.

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jasoutside

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I know it's just primer but I bet it feels good getting some paint on!:)

Hey lake, what's keeping you from painting up the rest of the hull there on the bottom?
 

lakelover

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Man, Can I RELATE to THAT!!!! Sorry for your Troubles LL!!!:redface:

No matter how hard you plan, one little mistake can make stuff a lot harder.:eek:
 

lakelover

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I know it's just primer but I bet it feels good getting some paint on!:)

Getting paint on, for some reason, says "progress".

Hey lake, what's keeping you from painting up the rest of the hull there on the bottom?
I decided "why bother?". Less work, won't have to worry if it'll stay on the bottom, less materials. Just easier all around! Probably nobody will know but you guys and me.
 

bananaboater

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Getting paint on, for some reason, says "progress".


I decided "why bother?". Less work, won't have to worry if it'll stay on the bottom, less materials. Just easier all around! Probably nobody will know but you guys and me.

And the fish!
 

jasoutside

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Probably nobody will know but you guys and me.

I hear ya, I have a few of these kinds of items on my rig too ^^^^;)
 

lakelover

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Ha, yah, bananaboater, but I think they'll keep the secret!:p I don't know why, fish aren't the least bit scared of me! Probably because I haven't fished for about 8 years! Even before that, they laughed at me.
 

lakelover

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The sunlight on the dry undercoater leads to a question.

I have some orange peel problems especially where the undercoater is a little thicker, leading to a lot more sanding than I was expecting to get the surface as smooth as it was before. The left half of the pic has been sanded with 220, none yet on the right half.

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So what causes orange peel texture when rolling?

1) Paint applied too thick?

2) Paint dried too fast?

3) Both?

4) Something else?

This stuff isn't too difficult to sand, but really wasn't expecting to do more than smooth out. You can see how much I'm having to remove.
 

Woodonglass

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Applying to thick AND I found that you need to wait 2-3 minutes and reroll it when your roller is completely out of paint. It will really lay down nice. Also, you might put a 1/2 cup of thinner in it to make it flow better. I shot my second coat this morning and Man o' Man it looks 100% better. Wish I was closer, I'd have you bring her over and we'd shoot her in a minute!!;)
 

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Applying to thick AND I found that you need to wait 2-3 minutes and reroll it when your roller is completely out of paint. It will really lay down nice. Also, you might put a 1/2 cup of thinner in it to make it flow better. I shot my second coat this morning and Man o' Man it looks 100% better. Wish I was closer, I'd have you bring her over and we'd shoot her in a minute!!;)

You're probably only a few days away, I'll be right over!

Glad your second coat led to better things! I was wondering about that wind, probably made it dry too fast. Nice and calm here today, 72 degrees.....and I'm sanding!:facepalm:

I'm getting a second roller today. I was going to roll & tip and have my badger hair brush, but after seeing the videos you posted the links to, I'll roll & roll. Also went to HD last night and all they had was the "better" foam rollers, with the orange plastic centers. I'd noticed that my good one that I threw in the grass had a white center, so I traipsed across the road to Lowe's and found more of the good ones there.
 

Huron Angler

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Looking good from here LL:)

The bare aluminum on the bottom makes the boat 2-3mph faster;)
 

lakelover

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Looking good from here LL:)

The bare aluminum on the bottom makes the boat 2-3mph faster;)

Thanks. Hey, I didn't know that! I hope to be hanging on for dear life anyway! That is one light boat.
 

Woodonglass

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These are the ones I use

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lakelover

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Yup, that's what I've got in the 4".
 

Woodonglass

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Check your PM inbox!
 

lakelover

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Anyone tried one of these sponges for between finish coats?

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Was looking for Scotch pads and came across them.
 

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Nope, but don't know why they wouldn't work. Does it say what it's equivalent to in sandpaper??
 

lakelover

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No, I looked for that. This was the finest they had. I'll do a little side by side check against 220 grit on some scrap and see how they compare. You know, eyeball it, after all, it's not rocket science I keep telling myself.
 

lakelover

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OK, I've been on the lam for a while so I thought it was time for an update.

My intention was to follow Pettit's directions for Easypoxy exactly, but as often happens, circumstances got in the way of intentions. It's pretty close but with a little modification. So far here's what I've done to the hull:

1) stripped bottom and transom
2) sanded remaining paint and bare transom with 150 grit sandpaper
3) applied Pettit 6455 2-part ZC etching metal primer to bare metal areas according to directions
4) lightly smoothed over with green scotch pad
5) applied Pettit 6149 white undercoater over 6455 and old painted areas

6) as mentioned above, I had trouble with my roller and ended up sanding "most" of the 6149 off in some areas because of orange peel, using 150 then 220 for a nice smooth surface
7) here's where I had to deviate and had to touch up aluminum areas using spray Moeller ZC etching primer, where the sanding cut thru to bare metal. Then went over those areas lightly with a scotch pad being careful not to overdo it, just to smooth it up a bit

That's how it ended up looking like this:

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A couple days ago, I spent about half a day making my Red Green paint booth up against my man-cave shed, while the neighbors looked on curiously. Cost = $0, all materials were on hand. Woodonglass suggested this to me (thanks), but it was the copious amounts of bird crap I found on the boat when I returned from the lake after a few days that really swung the pendulum.

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The next 4 days have a forecast of warm, dry weather, so here goes. This morning, I washed it with very dilute dish detergent and water, rinsed and dried with a cloth. Tomorrow morning I'll mask it off with green tape, hit it with a tack cloth and start rolling on the Easypoxy.

I decided against going with the Majic hardener for a couple reasons:

I want to get started in this rare window of perfect weather for one. And a couple days ago, I opened all my cans of Burgundy Easypoxy and stirred each one to make sure it hadn't separated. I've had the paint since February and it is in great shape. Anyway, I thought to check my stirring stick the next day, and the paint was quite hard and smooth where there was a thin coating, but still soft where it was thicker, and on drips. So note to self, apply thin coats. I'm having trouble finding the Majic locally.

This is an epic moment in my restoration! I usually do a pretty good job painting, but I hate doing it, and I've never used these materials before, so wish me luck, I'll need all I can get! (Sorry for the long post!)
 

Huron Angler

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Good luck LL...love the paint booth for zero dollars it's a real gem:D

Hope the weather cooperates for ya this weekend!
 
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