1964 Arkansas Traveler Restoration

Psiclown

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Re: 1964 Arkansas Traveler Restoration

Ok thanks. How big does the outside piece of mat need to be ya' think?
 

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Just where it laps over the hole 1/2" or a little more all the way around the hole.
 

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Re: 1964 Arkansas Traveler Restoration

This is a Little OVERKILL but will give you somewhat of an idea of how it should be done. You do not have to use the gel coat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsoKAHU5xUw&feature=related

Great info for future damage (hopefully that never happens) thanks Wood. I glassed the inside of the hole last night with two layers of csm. Think it would be alright to just PB it from the outside and sand flush?
 

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You could, but... Like Arch said, I would recommend dishing it out a bit, fill it with PB, lay one layer of glass and then coat with resin and then use some 3M premium filler to fair it all in. It really is not that hard to do. You can do it ezee
 

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The key to body fillers is the fact that most people sand them too much....leaving them low. I leave mine a bit high, prime it, the block it out by hand. Just find a strait (thick) paint paddle, wrap some 80 or 120 wet or dry on it and wet sand it. Just use a light even pressure. Where you are high, the body filler will come through, where you are low the primer won't be scratched. If its really low you may have to fill it some more. I keep repeating till it feels good, if it feels good it will look good. If it feels rough, it will show.

On roughing out the filler, I would recommend getting a $20 8" or 10" automotive sanding block. They usually have a flat aluminum base with a foam back and a wood handle. They work great for working out the filler. Start with 36, then go to 80. Its better to build up the filler slowly, put on a thick glob and you will be sanding for the next 6 months! I actually use automotive filler on mine, but a lot of people like the marine fillers on here. Mines a trailer boat, so I went with the automotive. I figure each to his own, if mine was in the water all the time I would go with the marine filler. Same goes for me on the paints, I have had great luck with automotive products, but some people on here won't use anything but marine products....again I figure everyone has to weigh cost, use, expectations, etc and figure out what is best for them. Good luck with it and let us know if you have any questions. We give lots of advise and now warranties!
 

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Re: 1964 Arkansas Traveler Restoration

The key to body fillers is the fact that most people sand them too much....leaving them low. I leave mine a bit high, prime it, the block it out by hand. Just find a strait (thick) paint paddle, wrap some 80 or 120 wet or dry on it and wet sand it. Just use a light even pressure. Where you are high, the body filler will come through, where you are low the primer won't be scratched. If its really low you may have to fill it some more. I keep repeating till it feels good, if it feels good it will look good. If it feels rough, it will show.

On roughing out the filler, I would recommend getting a $20 8" or 10" automotive sanding block. They usually have a flat aluminum base with a foam back and a wood handle. They work great for working out the filler. Start with 36, then go to 80. Its better to build up the filler slowly, put on a thick glob and you will be sanding for the next 6 months! I actually use automotive filler on mine, but a lot of people like the marine fillers on here. Mines a trailer boat, so I went with the automotive. I figure each to his own, if mine was in the water all the time I would go with the marine filler. Same goes for me on the paints, I have had great luck with automotive products, but some people on here won't use anything but marine products....again I figure everyone has to weigh cost, use, expectations, etc and figure out what is best for them. Good luck with it and let us know if you have any questions. We give lots of advise and now warranties!

I like that primer idea for knocking it down. I PB'd and glassed over the outside last night.....after I got home from seeing Jeff Dunham live...frickin' hilarious... Going to knock it down tonight and fill if needed. This thing will be primed tomorrow!
 

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Re: 1964 Arkansas Traveler Restoration

I got two coats of primer on the hull this weekend. My garage WREAKS.

The directiosn say to sand with 150 before painting. How much sanding is needed? Is it just to knock down the rough stuff, or do I need to get in there and make it perfectly smooth?

Thanks. (pics coming tonight I forgot the flash drive)
 

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you should have all the defects (sanding scratches chips etc.) fixed and sanded out. If you can see them in the primer, you will see them in the paint. If everything is smooth and scratch free, you only need to sand it enough to create some "tooth" for the paint to bite into.
 

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Ok thanks. It looks like it has a TINY amount of orange peel. (and I mean TINY) I was blocking it down and thought I was going to far.
 

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Petit EasyPoxy. Used the undercoater for primer, and gloss white Topside for the paint. (dry docked boat)
 

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By the way...how long does the paint need to cure before I can throw it back on the trailer? Directions do not say.
 

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I haven't used that paint, but I suspect it depends on the temperature. Maybe you can call them, a lot of manufacturers are pretty helpful.
 

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Here's the patch job I did on the transom outer skin.

Transomdrainpatch.jpg


After first coat of primer.

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Second Coat.

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2ndcoatprimer_2.jpg
 

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Funny how much a coat of primer changes how she looks huh?
 

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Other users of Easypoxy here on iBoats have been informed by Pettit to wait 7 days @ 80 degrees before placing back on trailer.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=435191

How are you applying the paint?? Roll and Tip?? Spraying??

I'm doing the roll and tip method. I called Pettit yesterday and the guy said to wait at least 5 days before trailering.
 

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Wood, that link you posted has got me questioning whether to use Pettit now. I wonder the mixing of brands caused his issue; plus he waited 3-4 days to pull the tape off which I think is way too long. I plan on yanking any tape off within a couple hours. I can use the topside on the cap anyway so I might just end up grabbing some true bottom paint.
 
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