Time to get started on the starcraft resto.

zool

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Im betting that regardelss of the coverage, they will try to pay up to nada book value, but even the top tier only reflects the aged boat maintained....Im thinking a documented thread here might go along way in arbitration to get the value up tho....
 

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Im betting that regardelss of the coverage, they will try to pay up to nada book value, but even the top tier only reflects the aged boat maintained....Im thinking a documented thread here might go along way in arbitration to get the value up tho....

There are plenty of "agreed value" policies out there.
 

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Thats what Ill have to look into when im done then, I had a regular policy on mine, including extended coverage for 80 miles offshore...then I hung on a bulkhead at the dock during a storm...go figure...sent it to a shop, they met adjuster, then I get the call from insurance investigation, they give me 1/4 the value to repair, and cancel policy...

Thats why im here in drydock ;)

Thanks EZmobee
 

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I am DEFINETLY going agreed value no way around that I just wasn't sure how much to value it at, even on a good day with the right buyer, and everything else I still think I would only be able to sell it for around 4k though it is worth MUCH more to me.
 

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Ive never had an agreed value policy and am curious if the premium escalates evenly, or jumps at threshholds....Id be happy with a reasonable premium, and get my costs back, and eat my time...
 

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Depending on your agent, I'd look thru some tin boats for sale nearby. If you can't replace it for $4000 I don't think I'd value it at $4000.
 

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The thing about agreed value is you put a value on it for total loss after you negotiate with the insurer. Of course the higher the value, the higher the premium. I'm not sure how damage claims are handled when it's not totaled, but for damage that can be repaired. Hagerty's does classic cars and boats, but I have no experience with them. Just another one to check.

Dozer - $20K is too low for yours if that $12K tinny Classic Starcraft & Karavan Trailer in the CL ads had $20,000 in resto costs. :D
 

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"I'm not sure how damage claims are handled when it's not totaled"

Yep, thats the rub, they pull out their nationwide avg labor cost per hr....and claim your shop is overcharging...
 

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I did some pricing through Boat US for the Islander and Sea Nymph. The "agreed value" was $1K for each boat. I didn't "agree" so I'm still shopping.
 

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I have agreed value with Progressive.
 

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Wow I am lagging way behind talking insurance and stuff. I haven't even really touched the Starcraft in Forever, but I have rebuilt the sundeck on the toon, a bigger job than one might think, I have also installed the new fuel pump on the toon. Replaced the transmission in the washing machine. Finished the floor and trim out in the camper, and done some general family do stuff.

So anyways at this point in the game I am WAY far behind where I wanted to be for a splash date of July 30. Which is not good. Here is the newest update all though it is a short one I am hoping to get back to my 2-3 hour per day schedule of working on the boat again.

My brand new transom now looks like swiss freaking cheese.



I have been predrilling the holes for the motor, and all the other stuff hanging on the back.

I am very unhappy with the way this turned out but the plan is to fill it and the entire transom is going to get another coat of epoxy before the final paint.

As a matter of fact all of the drilled holes are going to get epoxy and 5200 sealed before the bolts go back in.
 

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These holes are from a kicker bracket the previous owner had mounted. I am undecided if I am going to remount it but they are HUGE, and apparently when he drilled the bracked he entirely missed on one hole and never bothered to seal it up. So what is the best way to seal them.


I was thinking maybe JB weld but I do want a permenant fix. I thought about rehanging the kicker bracket and finding a 6 hp or so onput on the back for trolling and such. I am undecided wether to go that route or go with an electric trolling motor I think the key difference being weight. Electric trolling motors aren't as heavy as a 6 hp gas but I don't think there will be a huge difference when i have to add an additional battery for a trolling motor.

So if I am at 65 lbs for a trolling motor and additional battery.

Or I can maybe get a 6 hp evinrude use the same gas tanks no additional battery required and maybe get a little extra UMPH if I needed to use it to get home in an emergency. What do you all think would a 6 hp troll the boat down slow enough?

Which way does everyone think.

Regardless of which route I go I am going to have to patch at least ONE really large hole.

As far as these little ones at the bottom should I pop rivet them or maybe use a bolt with 5200 through the hole or JB weld them





Either way my transom is going to look like swiss cheese.
 

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The only other significant work that has been done,
I have now completely stripped the consoles to the bare aluminum I think I am actually going to paint them rather than carpet or vinyl.


I have also completely stripped the splashwell of all the remaining junk on it.



This was all carpet and vinyl inside and was quite the task to strip


The gas tank has had all the old gas removed and properly disposed of. All the fittings and rotten hoses are now gone we will be ready to start prepping for paint shortly.


I have also sanded all of the gunnels, and begun prepping for the last of the paint.

I am going to have to repaint an entire side on the boat as I dropped a piece of plywood and put about a 6 inch long scratch into the side

Does anyone have any idea on how to repair that massive hole in the console from where the PO installed a speaker I wanted to install a glove box.
 

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Hey Sig, haven't seen you around the SC neighborhood for awhile. man, I'm starting to think that we're brothers in a parallel universe...both restoring SS's and I just replaced the transmission in our washer! High-torque baby...some serious agitation up-in-here!! :lol:

I'm also contemplating my course of action repairing a few little holes (some intentional, some unintentional). I'm leaning towards stainless steel truss-head machine screws with nylon washers (barrier between the screw and the aluminum) and a SS locknut on the inside...all lathered-up with 5200. One of them is under a rib...just enough room for me to finagle a wrench. Another option that I see floating around is close-end pop rivets.
 

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Re: Time to get started on the starcraft resto.

Hey Sig, haven't seen you around the SC neighborhood for awhile. man, I'm starting to think that we're brothers in a parallel universe...both restoring SS's and I just replaced the transmission in our washer! High-torque baby...some serious agitation up-in-here!! :lol:

I'm also contemplating my course of action repairing a few little holes (some intentional, some unintentional). I'm leaning towards stainless steel truss-head machine screws with nylon washers (barrier between the screw and the aluminum) and a SS locknut on the inside...all lathered-up with 5200. One of them is under a rib...just enough room for me to finagle a wrench. Another option that I see floating around is close-end pop rivets.

Bluefin I sure wish I could say that the transmission fixed my washer but it didn't. It will still spin but no agitation, I have now replaced the motor, the transmission, inspected the agitator coupling. I am running out of options NEXT i am taking out to the property and using the Mossberg to fix it.
 

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Bluefin I sure wish I could say that the transmission fixed my washer but it didn't. It will still spin but no agitation, I have now replaced the motor, the transmission, inspected the agitator coupling. I am running out of options NEXT i am taking out to the property and using the Mossberg to fix it.


I would have the Sig Sauer P299 is a better choice for washer repair.

Maybe some sort of cover over the entire dash for that monster hole. Diamond plate or flat sheet AL?
 

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I would have the Sig Sauer P299 is a better choice for washer repair.

Maybe some sort of cover over the entire dash for that monster hole. Diamond plate or flat sheet AL?

Good to hear from you again GA, actually aluminum sheet was about the only thing I could come up with


And while I agree the Sig is better tool the Mossy will leave a bigger hole.

Up next in the boat restoration forum how to repair a 12gauge slug hole in a GE washing machine.
 

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I think a 6HP will be a fine kicker for that rig.
 

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Up next in the boat restoration forum how to repair a 12gauge slug hole in a GE washing machine.


With water involved, Marine Tex, of course. :lol: Wish I had some ideas for the washer.

Some times I wish transom mount transducers had never been invented. POs think nothing of sticking them anywhere the stern and leave their little pekker tracks all over the place on tinnies. And the old holes never seem to match where you want them. :mad:
 

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Bluefin I sure wish I could say that the transmission fixed my washer but it didn't. It will still spin but no agitation, I have now replaced the motor, the transmission, inspected the agitator coupling. I am running out of options NEXT i am taking out to the property and using the Mossberg to fix it.

maybe you should stop trying to wash the epoxy out of your clothes... they're gone dude! :p

it's unfortunate that the casing isn't aluminum...would make a great donor for your tinny!
 
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