Love, Necessity and Pride

[boatnut74]

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Great job on the glasswork! Things should move along nicely now

 

[GT1000000]

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You're jammin now Gus! You might want to flip that hull and paint it before you get to much weight back in it. I'm finally putting that resin you gave me the assist on to good use.

Glad to hear the resin is getting used...

I want to get a majority of the stringer work done, before the big flip...two main reasons...it will be much less flimsy and less of a chance of creating a problem [ like if I have to climb on the hull to get at some repair and possibly causing damage], and the biggest reason, is that when I get the bottom done and painted and flipped back over...there will be that much less I have left to do...:redfacelus, I can defintely get enough help and Egyptian Engineering together for both flips...

Great job on the glasswork! Things should move along nicely now

Thanks BN, hope everything is going good at your end...

Great job on the stringer GT ...... you do nice work.

Thanks Jon, I appreciate that...

Picked up some more Cabosil, Acetone, Milled Fibers, and more disposable gloves during a slightly long lunch...
Got home late last night, but the Sun was still up, so I decided to get the rest of the center stringer PB'd and CSM'd in...it was after dark by the time I got done...had to finish up with a flashlight, since I had never gone this late before...but a quick look this morning and some pics, and it looked pretty decent...

Of course, since the weekend is upon us, it is supposed to rain off and on, so, depending on Mother Nature...will determine whether or not I will get anything accomplished...:facepalm:

Happy Friday everyone and may your weekend be a boat building frenzy...

 

[sphelps]

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Good lookin stuff! Hope the weather holds up for ya!

 

[Woodonglass]

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Gus

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[TruckDrivingFool]

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Is it true what they say????

Its more fun adding than grinding away?

Two steps in and not looking back

Looks good keep it up.

 

[GT1000000]

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Good lookin stuff! Hope the weather holds up for ya!

Thank you Sir, I am holding out a grain of hope, but it looks like the sky is getting really crowded...

Gus

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Thank You, gracias, danke, arigato, spasiba, efcharisto, toda, gratia...

Is it true what they say????

Its more fun adding than grinding away?

Two steps in and not looking back

Looks good keep it up.

Yes its toootwooo...much more fun puttin than takin...

and thank you TDF...

Not much to report this evening, just fillin some of the previously unintentional cuts in the hull with some mayonnaise and csm to back it up...and a good resin soak on the knee stringers...

No pics tonight, so none of it really happened...but if the weather holds out, it might...

Hope everyone had a happy Friday and is stoked and ready for some serious boat restoring or splashing this weekend...

 

[chriscraft254]

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Great job on the keel stringer, looks professional! Now get busy and get the rest of them done, were waiting!!

 

[craigweaver]

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Just checkin in Gus. I hope you're weather holds for you to get more stringers in this weekend. That keel stringer is tight!

 

[GT1000000]

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Just checkin in Gus. I hope you're weather holds for you to get more stringers in this weekend. That keel stringer is tight!

Thank you CW...can't wait to see some more of your progress...

Great job on the keel stringer, looks professional! Now get busy and get the rest of them done, were waiting!!

Thanks CC, although it is now confirmed that the weatherman was at least partially right...South Florida is socked in...

Don't mind the cooling effect of the cloudiness, but I can do without the wetting effect of the liquid sunshine...

Oh well, its prolly gonna be like this for the rest of the week, so that just means more time on iboats...

That being said...I might as well bore the u-no-wat outa everybody and do some ramblin and babblin...

Have learned a couple things during my first foray into some heavy duty glassin...

Hope this helps some of you about to tackle this...

1- Talcum Powder [TP] is your best friend when glassin, let me count the ways...

Cover exposed skin, arms=keeps resin fromburning too badly when you accidentally get some on you...you won't notice until it starts to burn...

Hands, prior to, and after each layer of latex gloves...helps them slide on easier...

Sticky brush and roller handles= after cleaning or even during use...a little TP [not toilet paper...] will eliminate it...
If you are using my next best new discovery...blue colored, chemical resistant rubber gloves...and you need to grab something with resin covered gloves...you wipe them with an acetone soaked rag, then pour some TP on them to remove the stickyness...

After cleaning up your brushes for the day in acetone and drying them out...they tend to get real sticky and hard...to somewhat prevent this, TP them, the handles and the bristles, thoroughly...pour some TP on the bristles and work it in until its gone, repeat as needed...

Another great use is right after you resined a spot or an area, it has begun to tack up, but you need to keep working around or near that area, and find your self getting stuck to the tacky area...guess what...Yep, TP...and when you are ready to continue on that same specific area, wipe down well with Acetone and go for it...

I have only begun to discover some of the many valuable uses of TP, but as they come up...I'll report them...

2- As previously mentioned, blue chemical resistant rubber gloves...when I went to my supplier the other day, he gave me a pair to try out...two words...they work really well and you are not going to use box after box of disposable latex gloves...well OK, more than two words...

These things are completely reuseable and if while using them you get them all mucked up and hairy, you just get a rag soaked with Acetone, wipe the off, and keep going...when you are done for the day, wipe them down, remove, let dry, re-powder, re-use...My only pair have already lasted about 6 sessions with multiple acetone cleanings and they are still good to go...

3- Acetone is your second best buddy when glassin...as already stated above, it is used for keeping things cleaned and reuseable...keep it and rags handy for all your cleaning needs while glassin...

If I come across any other useful tips or ideas while progressing, I'll be sure to pass them on...

Here are a couple of pics of what I actually got accomplished yesterday...

Bilge Drain drilled and resealed with resin...

Port Knee Stringer resin soaked...

Starboard Knee Stringer resin soaked...

Last of the major hull oopsies resealed...

And the chem resistant gloves I'm yakkin 'bout...

Later...

 

[Willyclay]

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Bilge Drain drilled and resealed with resin...

Attaboy, I knew you could do it! Let the tropical depressions begin.

 

[Trooper82]

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So you DID do something yesterday

Them pics prove it.

I like the TP tips, helped me out alot.

Have a make on those gloves? I may try to find some local.

Hoping you get a little time today or tomorrow to glass. I know you are missing it.

 

[GT1000000]

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Bilge Drain drilled and resealed with resin...

Attaboy, I knew you could do it! Let the tropical depressions begin.

Thanks WC...and yes, the tropics are currently depressed...

So you DID do something yesterday

Them pics prove it.

I like the TP tips, helped me out alot.

Have a make on those gloves? I may try to find some local.

Hoping you get a little time today or tomorrow to glass. I know you are missing it.

You know, funny that you mention that, this stuff really does get in your blood and before you know it, you are missing doing something, anything on the boat...now I am beginning to understand MBS more and more...although I am sure my wife won't...

I have to get back with my supplier to find out exactly what brand these are and how much, but I checked on line and their are dozens of different companies that sell multitudes of different kinds... this is the link I used... http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...r+gloves&fr=att-portal&toggle=1&cop=&ei=UTF-8...

Best guess is to look for Nitrile-type, most of those are listed as being chemical resistant and the thicker 8-12mil thick ones seem to be more reuseable...looking at prices they seem to be about a buck a pair...give or take a quarter...

They prolly have some of these available at most any good hardware or paint supply place...I am definitely gonna get a couple extra pair and see how long/well they last...because the regular latex ones, I have already gone through one box, and at this rate, I will end up going through several boxes of those by the time I am done...

 

[Trooper82]

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I tried some thin nitrile ones, they got eatup with the acetone. Same with vinyl. The latex surgeon type work god with acetone though.

I know what you mean about missing doing something, anything. For sure gets in the blood. May need to go see a Dr myself by the time I getthe Ebko complete. Might be a bit of mbs in my dystem

 

[CaptainKickback]

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Het gt, just looking back at your stern eye backers. They look great, but one question. Do you have any concern about electrolysis between the aluminum and stainless steel or are you expecting the primer to insulate them (but the primer does have zinc)?

I always used tefgel on ss screws into aluminum or elso would get galvanic corrosion. That's why I was wandering.

 

[vcaptain]

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And yes, it is not only nice, but amazingly, supremely, incredibly, awesomely, ecstatically OK...to have a supply connection, literally like 15 minutes from the house...sorry, I just had to...:redface:

I cannot tell you how jealous I am of this. By the way, how did you find them??? Are they an alternate use of same grade type setup? Or a marine supply? I'm just thinking of other cities and ways to source the same materials without the shipping costs.

 

[Trooper82]

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I cannot tell you how jealous I am of this. By the way, how did you find them??? Are they an alternate use of same grade type setup? Or a marine supply? I'm just thinking of other cities and ways to source the same materials without the shipping costs.

I had to buy in bulk, but saved a ton by getting my csm, resin from composites one. They have a location in Atlanta. Got a whole roll of csm for less than other places, no shipping, same on resin. Ihad to use other sources for other items, like i didnt need a gallon of mekp.

 

[vcaptain]

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I had to buy in bulk, but saved a ton by getting my csm, resin from composites one. They have a location in Atlanta. Got a whole roll of csm for less than other places, no shipping, same on resin. Ihad to use other sources for other items, like i didnt need a gallon of mekp.

Ok! Good to know for next time, I wouldn't have come close to using a whole roll of csm. Would 20-25 gallons of resin apply for buying bulk?

 

[chriscraft254]

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Good tips gt, you can find a whole lot of different grade including the heavy chemical gloves in the paint department at lowes.

 

[GT1000000]

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Het gt, just looking back at your stern eye backers. They look great, but one question. Do you have any concern about electrolysis between the aluminum and stainless steel or are you expecting the primer to insulate them (but the primer does have zinc)?

I always used tefgel on ss screws into aluminum or elso would get galvanic corrosion. That's why I was wandering.

Honestly hadn't given it much thought, but I remember reading someplace that if you don't seal them up, say by painting everything over, the galvanic corrosion would not have a place to "breed", as being in open air, the electrolytic corrosion won't have a good chance to get started...Plus I only intend to use my boat in freshwater, which should keep this from being too great a concern...If however I find that this becomes a problem down the road, I will still have access to replace them...I'll let you know in a few years...

I cannot tell you how jealous I am of this. By the way, how did you find them??? Are they an alternate use of same grade type setup? Or a marine supply? I'm just thinking of other cities and ways to source the same materials without the shipping costs.

This was a connection given to me by my Neighbor across the street who is a marine Captain and used to work in the Marine Industry...Has been a boon to my economy...

I had to buy in bulk, but saved a ton by getting my csm, resin from composites one. They have a location in Atlanta. Got a whole roll of csm for less than other places, no shipping, same on resin. Ihad to use other sources for other items, like i didnt need a gallon of mekp.

Ok! Good to know for next time, I wouldn't have come close to using a whole roll of csm. Would 20-25 gallons of resin apply for buying bulk?

Anytime you buy a pail {5 gallons} of resin it is usually already priced as a bulk item...at least as far as I know...

 

[Trooper82]

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Yes that is afirmative on the 5 gal of resin.