Love, Necessity and Pride

[friderday]

Whew!....I thought it was just me having trouble with the "upgrade". I've been trying to get on here for 3 wks....this much time away, I started to shake, got nauseous, & darn near went to a meeting from iboats withdrawal! Sorry to hear about yer wing, Gus. This getting old crap is for the birds! Oh and thanks for pissin' in all our cornflakes with the good news about the resin/rot...makes me feel so confident about the stuff I got under my deck, said not me!!! If yours has a little, mine must have a whole bunch! Glad we're back in the forum loop...missed you guys! Keep healing!!

 

[Decker83]

Been having the same problem with the forum.. Just gave up until yesterday..

You need to take care of your arm and shoulder.. Don't let it get out of control and then need the restore done on it..:neglected:

The front casting deck looks great.. Job very well done.. :usa:

Hate to see the bad spots, but looks like the expert you are, have the right solution..

Take it easy on the arm and shoulder.. Have a great rest of the week..

 

[sphelps]

:blue:Sorry about your arm Gus .. Thats your bread and butter appendage !
Amazing how fast the rot can take root ! [insert frown smilie here ..]
Dang smilies still jumping to the top of the post ! [ Insert mad smilie here !]

 

[GT1000000]

Nuttin much goin on...just pitter pattering and messin with some stuff...
Removed all the casting deck sections for the time being...
Took the rub rail sections off and cut the cap apart just a little bit more...







Just makes it easier to handle the sections as a one man band, plus I got all the info/measurements I needed off of them to continue with my interior redesign...
The skeleton exposed...



Now that the skeleton is fully exposed, I can concentrate on taking care of the few NEW ROT areas, get the majority of the undersides painted and begin the steps necessary to finish up with the unseen portions of the super structure...

Still quite a ways to go, but the end is near...er!

Happy Saturday!

 

[Trooper82]

Gus I injured my shoulder once...thought it would heal on it's own...found out late I had tore the rotator cuff and the scar tissue locked my arm in place...trust me on this....you do not want some amazonian woman tearing the scar tissue loose...better to get it looked at if you can...bummer on the ick creeping in, but I know you will get it fixed soon enough..

 

[sphelps]

Nice skeletal system ! If and when I ever get back to boat building your work is giving me lots of idea's for my fishing rig .
But as usual I got a ? . Is the forward stern set of horizontal supports not tabbed into the hull sides for a reason or are ya just waiting for your 36th or so "I lost count " gallon of resin to show up ..

 

[GT1000000]

Gus I injured my shoulder once...thought it would heal on it's own...found out late I had tore the rotator cuff and the scar tissue locked my arm in place...trust me on this....you do not want some amazonian woman tearing the scar tissue loose...better to get it looked at if you can...bummer on the ick creeping in, but I know you will get it fixed soon enough..

Yeah, I am hoping it will heal on its own...no obummer care for me and sure can't afford a doctor...
I am pretty sure it will be OK though, I am a tough cookie, ya know...
And yep, the new ick will be taken care of, don't you doubt it for one second...

 

[GT1000000]

Nice skeletal system ! If and when I ever get back to boat building your work is giving me lots of idea's for my fishing rig .
But as usual I got a ? . Is the forward stern set of horizontal supports not tabbed into the hull sides for a reason or are ya just waiting for your 36th or so "I lost count " gallon of resin to show up ..

Yep, you got it...just waiting on the next big purchase of resin & cloth, then some more tabbing and general constructing will occur...
Just beware, all those ideas you are getting are a TON of extra work...

 

[banshee owner]

GT been a while just checking in here

trials and tribulations of life ehh if some of us didn't have bad luck we wouldnt have any luck

so the part of the wood that you found rotted were you able to determine what caused the moisture to start the rot.

i look at that and get scared to think that it started rotting and it isn't even in the water yet and im aiming for my boat to splash this summer.

now im scared and question if i have really truly 100% water proofed my wood

Any how looking giood ion the build and keep plugging away

cheers from canada

 

[GT1000000]

GT been a while just checking in here

trials and tribulations of life ehh if some of us didn't have bad luck we wouldnt have any luck

so the part of the wood that you found rotted were you able to determine what caused the moisture to start the rot.

i look at that and get scared to think that it started rotting and it isn't even in the water yet and im aiming for my boat to splash this summer.

now im scared and question if i have really truly 100% water proofed my wood

Any how looking giood ion the build and keep plugging away

cheers from canada

Howdy Banshee,
Thanks for dropping by...
Yeah, life continually seems to get in the way of our projects...sheesh!

To sort of answer your question about the moisture getting into the wood...one word...FLORIDA!
Besides the fact that after close inspection, the places where the new rot started to form, are spots where I did not get proper coverage with CSM and only had a coating of polyester resin...due to the natural expansion and contraction of the plywood, the resin cracked and allowed the copious amounts of liquid sunshine we receive here in Florida to find its way in there...the only fix is to eradicate the new growth, fill the affected areas with a bit of thickened resin and add some small pieces of torn CSM to better seal the edges...in some spots I may just cut away the offending areas and then re-seal...Keep in mind this occurred mainly in the most difficult to seal parts of plywood, the edges...this also makes a pretty good argument for those guys who work with epoxy resin, as that seems to seal the wood without the use of any cloth/mat...Oh well, maybe if I ever restore another tub, I'll use epoxy...especially if its made of aluminum...

Happy Hump Day, everyone!

 

[jigngrub]

Keeping a boat covered and dry is just as important during construction as it is when it's finished.

Better to have learned about your failure now than when the boat was done and you're thinking all is good.

 

[mrdjflores]

been awhile since i've checked in. still looking good. sorry to hear about the arm and the rot...just be glad it's not rot in the arm
do you have any concerns about weight?? especially with 40+ gallons of resin?

 

[Trooper82]

...Oh well, maybe if I ever restore another tub, I'll use epoxy...especially if its made of aluminum...

That was good... aluminum epoxy!

 

[GT1000000]

Keeping a boat covered and dry is just as important during construction as it is when it's finished.

Better to have learned about your failure now than when the boat was done and you're thinking all is good.

Yes sir, it would be nice to have permanent cover, but with the gator gushers and blazing sun and sudden wind gusts, every penny spent on tarps and different types of temporary support systems has been money wasted through out this build, so when the boat ain't being worked on, it unfortunately sits, bow high, drain plug removed, exposed and naked to the elements...
But that's OK, because it has shown me any weaknesses in the build and allowed me to make corrections as needed...

 

[GT1000000]

been awhile since i've checked in. still looking good. sorry to hear about the arm and the rot...just be glad it's not rot in the arm
do you have any concerns about weight?? especially with 40+ gallons of resin?

Howdy DJ, glad to see around these parts!
Yeah, thank goodness, no rotten arms, yet...
I don't know if I turned this bass boat into a floating pig with all that resin, but at least it should be fairly solid...:lol:
The way I look at it, I am basically building an entirely new top half of the boat...so it isn't like I am adding all that resin weight on top of what used to be there...
I sort of figure it will be close to a wash when all is said and done...
In the limited research I have done, I have heard and read that it takes approximately 50-100 gallons of resin and gel coat, plus the wood...to build the average boat of this size...so considering that I am really only using the original hull skin from the boat, then I should be pretty close to the original build weight...at least I hope so...

 

[saginawbayboater]

Happy 4th GT!!! :usa: As always Love the Basssassin and look forward to what's next!!! Hope you have a great holiday weekend!! :hail:eace:

 

[GT1000000]

Happy 4th GT!!! :usa: As always Love the Bassassin and look forward to what's next!!! Hope you have a great holiday weekend!! :hail:eace:

Thanks for the shout out SBB, right back at you...
And to all my iboating buds...may this holiday be one that is enjoyed by all and remembered for what it represents...
:usa2:Happy 238th, USA!

Not much happening with the 'ol Bassassin, but I did spend the 4th farting:target: around with my buddy's Cape Craft...
Installed some carbs, t-stats, and rebuilt the poppet valve...ran it for a bit, and now I am just waiting for my neighbor to swing by and give me his approval or rejection...

If anyone is interested...I started another thread in the Mercury engine forum, where I had some questions and concerns about the cooling system of his motor.

Here is a link...http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...cury-mariner-outboards/7974841-cooling-system

I included a couple of goofy videos to show what I went through installing the cooling parts...

I also posted a video of the engine running in the other thread I had started about his carburetors...

Here is the link...http://forums.iboats.com/forum/engi...-outboards/659140-mercury-v-6-carburetor-jets

 

[Mud Puppy]

Gus, I'm sure that if you had anything to do with your Buddy's boat repair, it will be just fine when he picks it up! Glad you had a Happy and safe 4th!

Rocky

 

[GT1000000]

No progress on the Bassassin!

Actually have had some very un-inspiring set backs...been finding new areas of rot infestation on parts of the structure that should have been long ago sealed up...

Due to lack of time and a place to work on it, the never ending rain and ridiculous heat and humidity, parts of the superstructure that are directly exposed to the elements, and should have been covered by now, are suffering small but persistent rot infestations...

After reading through tpenfield's thread, and doing tons of research on the web about brown wood rot, I finally found the best possible solution...

Ethylene Glycol...
I ordered a gallon of it, 100% pure, from a chemical supplier on line, received it in a matter of days, and have been applying it to the affected areas of the structure...

Great News!
It has effectively killed the rot and since it is water soluble, poisons any moisture left in the deep recesses so that the rot fungus cannot continue to spread like cancer...
The other positive note is that after a time, it basically evaporates and causes Zero bonding issues with resins and such...

The proof showed itself in the way the wood went from black and moldy looking to perfectly clear and and naturally wood colored again...

This gave me much hope in that all is not yet lost...

I have continued to apply treatments to the wood to allow it to soak in as far as it can...the prognosis is good!

Other than that...

It has been crazy busy at work and while it has been good for the Benjamin bush, it has not been so good for the boat...seeing as I have no shelter to work under at the house, the shop has been my go to place to get stuff done...well the shop is so full of work that I just don't have any room to haul the boat over and get under some cover...

Oh well, I guess I finally had to break down and use up some sorely needed boat funds for one of these...





If I am going to have a snowball's chance in South Florida of ever getting this boat wet, this may just be the thing that makes it possible...
Irregardless of what it has cost and if it only lasts a few months at worse, if it helps me to get this project in the water, it will be considered as good green well spent...

This upcoming weekend will hopefully afford me the time to get it erected and put into use...

Hope everyone is having a good start to the week and may the weekend be here soon!
Happy Tuesday!

 

[friderday]

Wow Gus...that is just plain old POOPY! Glad to hear you got it figured out. But I have some sneaky suspicions...hmmmm....chemicals, respirators..hmmm...you call yourself Gus, but could this be a cover? Is your real name Walter White? Do you work out of a motor home/rv? Do you plan on owning a car wash in the near future? hmmmm.....something is berry berry suspicious....but I know NOTHING!! (unless they twist my right thumb & then I'm spillin' the beans on you brother)