Love, Necessity and Pride

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Woodonglass

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Uhmmm, Yeah, IF, BIIIIIGGGG IF, the Original MFG woulda Shoulda built her thisa way... You would'nt be havin all this fun!!! You'd be miserable out on some lake catchin them nasty ole' Bucket Mouths!!!!;)
 

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Good day, gang!
Update...
Not much happening, but I did take a couple of steps backwards...
After much contemplation, I was quite concerned and convinced that I had somehow goofed on my initial aerator hook up...
Ya see, IF, I ever had a bilge pump failure...the motor from the aerator could be removed and replace the one in the bilge pump...
But Wait!...
If I did remove the aerator pump motor from the housing, I would need a really HUGE bilge pump to make up for the torrent of water that would come in through the 3/4" opening left behind by the removal of said pump motor...
Hmmmmm, not a good thing, me thinks...
So I decided the best course of action would be to remove the aerator housing and replace it with a new through hull fitting that would afford me a place to install a ball valve between the leak and the pump...
I wasn't too thrilled with this revelation since it would involve removing the housing from its rather permanent place, thanks to being sealed in place with 5200, and quite possibly ruining the housing from the amount of force I would have to apply to it, trying to "unscrew" it from it's location...
Well, decisions made...I would seek out a replacement aerator assembly in preparation for the possible destruction of the original housing, which in the end would give me an extra pump motor for back up use and redesign the water intake system with a way to shut off the entire contents of the whatever body of water I happened to be on, from entering the boat...
Let the fun begin...
Found a great price on the aerator assembly at the local Wallyworld, online, pre-paypalled, walked in, picked up and gone...
Came home and now it was time to tackle the original housing removal...laying on my back, on concrete, in the sweltering hot afternoon sun, Saturday, I began the dreaded removal operation...
After much cursing, swearing, grunting, some bleeding and cursing some more...
SUCCESS!
The pump housing came out, a bit scarred, but still quite servicable...OK, good, I can definitely find a couple of good uses for a complete working aerator...yay!
Then it was time to sit down and figure out how to make a "Modular" Thru-Hull fitting that would allow me to screw on the Intake Strainer on the outer end and the ball valve on the inside...
No where on earth could I find what I really wanted...A section of 3/4" Schedule 40 or 80 PVC about 6" long, threaded all the way...
Thought about going to a couple of plumbing supply houses nearby and asking if they could thread some for me...NOPE!, No way!...Go buy the die and do it yourself, they told me...or find a plumber to do it...OK, No thanks! The die costs between 60-80 bucks, I was only going to use once in my life and I really didn't feel like buying one, using it, then returning it...
Option TWO...
Make something else work...
Grabbed a couple of MPT/slip adaptors, short section of 3/4" PVC, just enough to grab both adaptors and go all the way through the intake hole, glue one adaptor on the pipe, slip it in the hole, all slathered with 5200*[see note], clean the end protruding inside, grow longer arms to hold both ends while gluing the inside MPT adaptor on and pushing the whole mess together...wipe up any excess 5200 and walk away to let it all cure...
* Note: I realize I am spoiled by the great prices I have been able to obtain through out most of this build, and the amount I spent on the smallest tube of 5200 I found is really just a drop in the bucket, compared to everything else...
I am still a little miffed that I had to spend almost 9 bucks for a ONE OUNCE tube...Yeah they had the 3 & 10 ounce tubes for only a couple/few dollars more, but I just needed a very small amount and couldn't justify letting a larger amount go to waste...UGH!
End of Note...
Anyhow, enough ranting...
Here are a couple of pics of what all this blabbering is about...
Slightly scarred but complete useable, pump housing...



Planning and sketching out...



Hole cleaned and prepped for installation of new fitting...



New fitting installed, outside view...



Inside view...



That should work...now to just let it all cure, add an extra bead of 5200, still have more than 9/10 of my 1oz. tube left, around the inside fitting, then I can start really laying some pipe...:rolleyes:

There are literally a ton of ways I could have accomplished the same basic outcome, but in my own little way, I had to figure out some way to make it complex...all is good in my world...

Have a great week, everyone!
 

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New thru hull looks like it'll work well & do what you want it too. How far out does the new intake stick? Not far enough to risk getting broken off fighting all the Bassassin's prey?
 

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How far out does the new intake stick? Not far enough to risk getting broken off fighting all the Bassassin's prey?
Oh about this far...me thinks it will survive ...:watermelon:



And this is what the inside will roughly look like...



I will probably end up slapping a little black paint on the fitting, just so the fish don't complain about a color clash...
Happy end of Sunday!:)
 

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The color shock is the least of them fishes worries. I'm thinking a sharp fillet knife and hot peanut oil should be high on the list though. :D

I picked up one of those baskets for my SN's intake, got tired of the gunk getting in and clogging up the works.
 

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Looks great GT but maybe I'm really tired or my dyslexia is flaring up . :facepalm: The plan is to use the livewell aerator ifin the bilge pump fails . Would you not need some kind of quick change fitting / compression type fitting to make this happen in a hurry . Like taking on water for whatever reason ? Maybe I am missing something .
 

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The checkball valve was a definte need....looks good adter the redo...
 

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Looking good from WV ^^^
Thank you, Sir!

The color shock is the least of them fishes worries. I'm thinking a sharp fillet knife and hot peanut oil should be high on the list though. :D

I picked up one of those baskets for my SN's intake, got tired of the gunk getting in and clogging up the works.
Yeah, I have always used one...definitely makes for longer lasting pump motors...
And as far as knife and oil, I not only plan to have a stash on board, but my Coleman griddle as well...;)

Looks great GT but maybe I'm really tired or my dyslexia is flaring up . :facepalm: The plan is to use the livewell aerator ifin the bilge pump fails . Would you not need some kind of quick change fitting / compression type fitting to make this happen in a hurry . Like taking on water for whatever reason ? Maybe I am missing something .

Nope, what is cool about these particular pump motors is that you leave the housing in place and just twist the motor out of it, then twist it into the other housing...the reason for my modification is, IFIN, the bilge pump motor gives up the ghost and I need another, I just turn the globe valve [red handle] to the off position, which in effect would plug the big entry hole that would suddenly appear when I twist out the aerator pump motor from its housing to replace the fried bilge pump motor...

Check out the pic for a better explanation...

 

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Got a little side project going on.....then a good spring cleaning once we get so e real spring temps...was not too bad today though...56
 

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GT1M, We all make mistakes...okay, rethink our efforts, but unless you point your differences out to others, who would know. You make your "rethinkings" look like they were there from the start.

When I purchase PVC parts I usually need to repurchase PVC glue for every little usage too. Seems regardless what I do, the PVC glues always harden up so I have to repurchase a new little can of that stuff for one time uses every time. I started storing those cans upside down to help keep them usable again.

Nice job there and I do like the 90 degree ball valve idea.

Your boat is going to be like a tank when you're finish with it. It may not float on top of the water (37 gallons of resin), but if it sinks to the bottom, it won't rot either...:laugh: I'll keep watching so see how that Glasstream comes out... :thumb: :thumb:
 

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As that great philosopher Christopher Robin once said; " None of us is as smart as all of us." Your documentation is a wonderful resource for the rest of us. Thanks, Gus!
 

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Got a little side project going on.....then a good spring cleaning once we get so e real spring temps...was not too bad today though...56
Very glad to hear it, brother...I am really looking forward to seeing the Ebko take shape...

GT1M, We all make mistakes...okay, rethink our efforts, but unless you point your differences out to others, who would know. You make your "rethinkings" look like they were there from the start.

When I purchase PVC parts I usually need to repurchase PVC glue for every little usage too. Seems regardless what I do, the PVC glues always harden up so I have to repurchase a new little can of that stuff for one time uses every time. I started storing those cans upside down to help keep them usable again.

Nice job there and I do like the 90 degree ball valve idea.

Your boat is going to be like a tank when you're finish with it. It may not float on top of the water (37 gallons of resin), but if it sinks to the bottom, it won't rot either...:laugh: I'll keep watching so see how that Glasstream comes out... :thumb:
Thanks, gm...
Funny you should mention the pre-think thing...when I originally installed the aerator, the thought crossed my mind about adding a shut off valve, but it went so quickly through my small brain that I guess it didn't stay there long enough to make a lasting impression...:facepalm:
I tend to have the same problem with the PVC cement...tends to become useless after sitting on the shelf for an unknown period of time...
I agree, if it sinks, somebody in the year 3000 or more can probably bring it back to the surface and add some new fangled hover power to it and use it for a couple more decades...:cool:
Oh and BTW, I go by the rules...
Rule 1- I never make a mistake
Rule 2- If I make a mistake, refer to rule Number 1...:rolleyes:

As that great philosopher Christopher Robin once said; " None of us is as smart as all of us." Your documentation is a wonderful resource for the rest of us. Thanks, Gus!

Thanks, Willy...I definitely hope when this is all said and done, that someone going through this may find a useful tidbit here and there...documenting this build is not only extremely satisfying for myself, but hopefully it will help someone down the road avoid certain pitfalls that come along...;)
 

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Thanks for the explanation Gus . Pretty cool how you can just swap the motor like that . Sometimes ya got to beat me over the head till I gets it ! :fish:
 

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Gus, I too was a little confused at first, but now me understands!

I also tend to over think and thus over complicate things, but I like what you have going on there Bud. I guess too many years of fixing things the guy in front of me thought was not needed, or maybe just took shortcuts, or just didn't care.

My bilge pump was located IMO in the worse place it could be... under the starter. I think it will go back on the opposite side just so it can be had.

Looking great so far!
 

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Minor Progress Update...
Installed the front, cross bulkhead for the Fuel/Mech Locker...








Soon will be harvesting some greenbacks from the moola bush for the procurement of some much needed supplies to be able to continue forward with the final structural layout of the center section of this here tub-o-glass-n-wood...:cool:
The upcoming structure is to layout and support the live well area, seating area and consoles...;)
Hope everyone has had an awesome weekend and may the work week fly by:plane:...
 

Watermann

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That sure looks like some strong lumber, it's easy to see your into strength over light weight!
 
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