HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

[colobiker]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Time for a reality check.

You started out with an $8000 budget and thought you could finish the boat with it.

Many members give estimates much, much higher.

The cost to date is $15000, and it is not finished.

I think its time to re-evaluate how much time and money this boat is going to take to finish.

Your boat is a 1985 if I remember correctly, this Scarab Sport is a 1988 and listed as in "very good condition" for $17,000 ready to go.
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very true, but then where is the fun in that.. ok so you can use it as it is and not work on it.. thats no fun..

 

[jserb]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Mark, if i understand you right, then that was a very harsh comment....thier is one thing however that makes this project worth it....my hull is more vaualbe than this one cuz i know thier is no rot, and i know what i got in it, i know im not going to find a soft spot in 2 years.

 

[zach103]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

if you've come this far why give up now. i say stick with it

 

[Mark42]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Mark, if i understand you right, then that was a very harsh comment....thier is one thing however that makes this project worth it....my hull is more vaualbe than this one cuz i know thier is no rot, and i know what i got in it, i know im not going to find a soft spot in 2 years.

I did not mean to insult or anger you. I just see the project getting more and more expensive and you haven't added all the hardware you'll need to use it for fishing.

I guess what I'm saying is strictly financially speaking, it's not too late to change your mind and get a working boat for less than you'll spend to finish your's.

I know you have a lot of planning and labor involved, and it is a great project. The initial budget was $8000. It looks like it could be 3 times that by the time you are finished. I just wanted to be sure you saw all the alternatives in case you felt obligated to finish the boat even if you were getting in over your head.

 

[jserb]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

I am truly surprised on some of these opinions. Almost everyone in here should know that these projects are 75% a mind game and 25% labor. To say to "re evaluate" is far more detrimental than constructive. Currently the project is at 12000 WITH motors, HULL FINISHED, and 85 percent of the hardware i have, I WIll be spending close to 2000 on paint. And the remaining is for a trailer and anything else i would like to add. So i have to disagree, my boat will be in perfect shape, and i saved 2000 dollars by fixing it myself and knowing the quality of the build, instead of just buying something new"er". My budget will cap around 15000.

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Mark, if i understand you right, then that was a very harsh comment....thier is one thing however that makes this project worth it....my hull is more vaualbe than this one cuz i know thier is no rot, and i know what i got in it, i know im not going to find a soft spot in 2 years.

Yep i have to agree hole hearted here jserb, you will have a brand new boat when your done, and what are they 100,000 plus brand new , well not brand new with the motors , what 2003 on the motors so she will be woth 70,000 for a ride in that good of shape !!!!

I dont really think Mark was that bad , just trying to bring up when you frist started with the 8,000 it get her done , we all said it was going to be more !!

Ok jserb Keep up the great work , and we need more pics !! lol John

 

[Mark42]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

..... Currently the project is at 12000 WITH motors, HULL FINISHED, and 85 percent of the hardware i have, I WIll be spending close to 2000 on paint. And the remaining is for a trailer and anything else i would like to add. ....... My budget will cap around 15000.

Ooops, my bad. From what I read I thought you already spent 15,000, the motors were in the shop for repairs, and 8,000 more just to get painted.

If you come in close to the 15K, then I agree you are doing very well. I too would prefer a slightly more expenive complete rebuilt boat over an unknown boat.

Hey, if I didn't bring this whole thing up, your post count wouldn't be as high as it is today!

 

[Incorrigible]

Re: "Mission Impossible" HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Re: "Mission Impossible" HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

We need to get in touch. I'm doing an almost identical project boat, and don't think your budget (depending on what you plan) is unrealistic. Just plan on going over it and you'll be fine.

 

[ondarvr]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

I'm sticking with my original $20,000 or higher estimate, mainly because once you start rigging the boat it can really nickel and dime you to death. Plus if one motor is in the shop for overheating there could be additional costs involved. $5,000 can be spent on a 20 footer in a very short period of time with little or no visible or performance gains, it just goes into making things work right and as the boat get's bigger much more money can fit into the hole.

 

[jserb]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Mark, i agree, no hard feelings here

Now, as for ondarvr, it'll be 15 MAYBE 16 thousand tops. I have one of the best johnson evinrude mechanics in the nation, and he just happens to be a good friend. I also have all the hardware: cleats, hod holders, exc.... however items such as a new little GPS, windscreen, and mics upolstry, will eat up my remaining thousand.

 

[ondarvr]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

You've done a good job at finding great deals on what you've needed so far and I'm not criticizing what you're doing, seems like a decent project to me. I just think it's going to cost more to finish it, just good electronics for a boat that size can easily go past $5,000.

 

[Mark42]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

I'm curious about the gas tank. Did you get it repaired or get a replacement?

 

[charkbait]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

You've done a good job at finding great deals on what you've needed so far and I'm not criticizing what you're doing, seems like a decent project to me. I just think it's going to cost more to finish it, just good electronics for a boat that size can easily go past $5,000.

not sure what kind of toys you need for a lake boat but it sure ain't $5K worth like us guys on the coastlines. He'll be fine IMO on that one. Great job so far!

 

[slasmith1]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Wow I didn't mean to stir up such a fuss about $ I was just curious

 

[Mark42]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

not sure what kind of toys you need for a lake boat but it sure ain't $5K worth like us guys on the coastlines. He'll be fine IMO on that one. Great job so far!

Lake boat? As in Lake Michigan? Thats like being on a coast without the salt!

 

[ondarvr]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

I really don't see a difference in what's needed.

 

[Robj]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Hate to say it, but I told you so, you could not stick to your original budget. It was wayyyy tooo lowww. There is a saying, you get what you pay for. In the end it will end up costing you more than what you thought, but you will have a boat that should be as good as new.

Those boats that are advertised as "ready to go" etc, most of the time are a POS, and cannot be compared to what yours will be like when done. Especially true with an older boat. Been der done dat. My boat was advertised as needing new upholstery. Ended up with a complete rebuild, stringers, transom etc. Don't be discouraged if it ends up costing more than your estimate, try and keep costs low without cutting corners and you will be one happy boater in the end.

Keep up the good work,

Have a great day,

Rob.

 

[oops!]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

heh heh heh......john sometimes we just under guesstimate things.....we all knew it,,,,,but no big deal bud.....you want a laugh? read the hull ext time line......i think on page one i had a guesstmate as far as my time line......in fact....i think my time guestimating is legendary around here

however items such as a new little GPS, windscreen, and mics upolstry, will eat up my remaining thousand.

uh.......unless you are doing the uph your self bud.....you are about 4k shy here alone.

but who cares.....it will be a hull of a great boat when its done

 

[jserb]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

Here are a few photos of current work

 

[jserb]

Re: HUGE PROJECT!! 30' Scarab Sport overhual

and some more...here are the motors i bought....