Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

[fngboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

What's does the hydro-turf cost? Is it sold in sheets and what size. If those are the only two colors that you can get I vote for black with grey stripes. What color gel will you be using? Oh wait..."great gel" ?? Ok gray gel maybe. Idk:facepalm:

 

[archbuilder]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

I'm wondering how hot that will get in the Texas sun. It might be fine, but I'd hate to see you with striped feet!

 

[73Chrysler105]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

X2. $475 for a moulded windshield is a great price. Thanks for the info Jay.

I agree it is a great price just can't see spending that much on a flip for a windshield.

 

[Last Mohican]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

I'm wondering how hot that will get in the Texas sun. It might be fine, but I'd hate to see you with striped feet!

X2. Black is going to get H,O,T hot. I believe this is a similar product to what is used on jet ski foot area and maybe some swim platforms. I know a lot of those are black but they dip in and out of the water. This would help keep it cool. If the sole of this boat is dipping in and out of the water you got a big problem.

My .02, Stick with the carpet.

 

[khe]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

My vote is to stick with carpet.

 

[73Chrysler105]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

X2. Black is going to get H,O,T hot. I believe this is a similar product to what is used on jet ski foot area and maybe some swim platforms. I know a lot of those are black but they dip in and out of the water. This would help keep it cool. If the sole of this boat is dipping in and out of the water you got a big problem.

My .02, Stick with the carpet.

I am with Matt on this one Black boats are hot enough in the texas sun let alone a black floor you will need shoes on all the time to keep from blistering your feet.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Actually the hydroturf does not get as hot as you think, and I could go with grey with black strips. I personally think red carpet will get blazing hot in the sun, and with Hydroturf with the grooves should provide adequate drainage and stay nice and cool. Because it is a foam structure, the air in it dissipates the heat.

There are a few reasons I do not like the carpet idea.

1. is that I think it looks dates and smells when it gets wet.

2. It is hard to get to lay down, and with the seat pedestals I build, it will just looks like carp!

Actually going with the Hydro turf and gel coat is not going to be any more expensive than carpet at all. I do not put cheap materials in my boat at all and the carpet we chose was quite expensive.

As far as saving money on a flip... we need to get this out of our heads. I have a budget in mind and I have done market reasearch and know what I can spend, and what I cannot. We are well within budget on this build. I am not going to make this boat cheap for the sake of saving a couple of dollars.

It is going to be right. I have to put my name on it, and I want this boat to be really nice.

 

[73Chrysler105]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Sounds like you have all laid out and it makes sense so go for it and detail it out for us.

 

[JASinIL2006]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Jay, would you mind sharing the details of your cost comparison of carpet vs. Hydroturf? I had sort of settled on Durabak for my build, but I'm reconsidering. How did the costs shake out? Also, have you talked with anyone about how well Hydroturf holds up? I really liked the sample I received from them, but I was worried about how that stuff would wear and shed dirt.

Thanks,
Jim

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Jay, would you mind sharing the details of your cost comparison of carpet vs. Hydroturf? I had sort of settled on Durabak for my build, but I'm reconsidering. How did the costs shake out? Also, have you talked with anyone about how well Hydroturf holds up? I really liked the sample I received from them, but I was worried about how that stuff would wear and shed dirt.

Thanks,
Jim

Hydroturf has been used for years on watercraft and holds up great. I used it on my Polars Jet Skis and I have it on the back on the Sea Ray. You do not cover the whole deck with it, you make mats that would glue in the walkways.

As far as cost, it will be about 85 bucks to do what I want to do on the Carlson.

Here is where I have it on the Sea ray.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

It is update time again. It has been tough to find time to work on the boat alot the past couple of weeks, much less update the thread and website. Things are really coming together, and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

I am going to change the thread format a little and type what I am doing above the pictures to help dictate what is going on better. As I mentioned before, I will most likely be doing gel coat all inside the boat and then using hydroturf glued in as mats. I think this is the best of both worlds and will give the new owner a slick updated look, and if they choose to put down carpet... they can. More to come on this.

So here we go.

We needed to get the gas tank structure built... so Dad and I rigged up a nice system to raise and lower the cap so we could check fitment. I just used a 1/2 ton hoist screwed into the joint and it allowed me to raise and lower with ease.

We used the cleats to tie the rope to.

I then assembled the old tank structure (see why I kept it) and put it back in to make sure it still fit... which it did.

I then tore it back down again and then traced all the patterns on the new wood and cut it out.

One I had all the pieces cut I had to glue the 2X3 pieces of wood down to the deck that form the structures base. I used Peanut butter (thickened resin) to do this and then used some weight to hold it down. These will also get glassed later.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

After treated the end grains with several coats of slow kick resin (resin mixed to cure slowly so it soaks in) I used Peanut butter again to glue and screw the sides to the bases. I used 1708 on the outside and the inside of the base to really hold it to the deck.

Once that cured I put down teh gas tank floor that had been coated in resin and one layers of CSM. I like using CSM on boards that will be sitting flat. The CSM really adds that extra water protection. Boards that are not structural, and are vertical, I usually just tab in and then coat in resin and then paint of gel. The water will run right off this.

I glues and screwed the floor in also and then tabbed with 1708.

Once teh resin cured I rolled on two coats of rustoleum grey to give the structure and nice look.

I also cut out the transom hole with a Dremel tool. I still need to drill the steering relief holes, but I will do that soon.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

I have alos started working on the wiring for the boat. I know it looks like a mess, but I know what is going on. The wiring is actually very usable, and will cut down on time. I fellow boater and fan has graciously made me a great deal on some gauges for the boat!

I also discovered that the Steering is shot, and I will have to get a full new rack. Soooo the steering got ripped out.

I was happy to find out that the instrument cluster can be buffed to a shine. It is that clean circle on the left. One of the videos shows it better.

With a new fuel sender installed, the gas tank is back in her resting spot. I used pieces of recycled tire floor mat cut into pieces for the padding.

We decided to put carpet up front as it will cut down on water noise and if you put skis up there is will keep them from banging the hull. This stuff was a pain in the butt to lay down, but we got it. You really will never see this, and i personally hate the way it turned out.

Now it was time to build the kick plate that the driver and passenger rest their feet on. We used foam to make a template of the bottom first as the original was ruined.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

The top area was a different story... as I was able to use the original as a template.. YEAH!!

Once it was done and all test fitted, it was time to cut it out of wood.

Once we got the wood cut and got the rough shape cut out it was time to get it mounted in.

I needed a way to secure the kick plate down without screwing to anything permanent. So what i did is make a sacrificial mounting structure that I glued in for the kick plate to screw too.

I cut out the middle so that water could run out, and made an indention on the back of the kick plate so that the water did not get trapped.

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Once that was dry, I screwed the kick plate down and then used peanut butter all around it... with the exception of the lower front. This will allow water to escape from the front it it gets there. Notice teh green stuff there. I ran out of cabosil to make Peanut butter, and used Bondo glass. It was terrible, and kicked off in about 5 minutes.

I will tab all of this in after I get more cabosil and can make some more smooth peanut butter and make the seams smoother.

Thats it for the pictures on this update. Now here is about an hour of video that goes into more detail.

 

[Friscoboater]

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[redstrat]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

I just discovered your thread. Awesome build and restoration. I'll tag along and watch you progress. Thanks for your time in sharing.

 

[sean.deangelis]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Hey J,
Very noob here but I have followed your workings on youtube for some time. Just a quick note on the buffed out "circle" on the left side of the gauge cluster panel. Place that in the sun for a couple hours (assuming the sun comes out again soon and make sure it doesn't fade back. Perhaps even put a couple drops of hard water on it to make sure no discoloration. I had a similar polish-resto panel on a BMW motorcycle I restored and despite looking OEM in the garage the panel faded back to ugly in about 4 hours when sunlight was added. I ended up replacing it but wondered afterward if some form of clear coat might not have preserved the re-polished surface.
In any case I love your work and check youtube daily for updates on the boat.
(resuming noob silence....now)

 

[Friscoboater]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Hey J,
Very noob here but I have followed your workings on youtube for some time. Just a quick note on the buffed out "circle" on the left side of the gauge cluster panel. Place that in the sun for a couple hours (assuming the sun comes out again soon and make sure it doesn't fade back. Perhaps even put a couple drops of hard water on it to make sure no discoloration. I had a similar polish-resto panel on a BMW motorcycle I restored and despite looking OEM in the garage the panel faded back to ugly in about 4 hours when sunlight was added. I ended up replacing it but wondered afterward if some form of clear coat might not have preserved the re-polished surface.
In any case I love your work and check youtube daily for updates on the boat.
(resuming noob silence....now)

I have had similar issues in the past. This however is a lexan and I sanded it down with 1000 grit paper and get it back to a mirror shine.

 

[Hoosmatroos]

Re: Friscoboater's 1986 Glastron Carlson CVX-18 Complete restoration thread

Nice work again Jay. Every time I take a look at youtube to watch the video's before you put them here