'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Looks good troop! Was you able to get out of the sun for a while ?

 

[rickryder]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Ya you gotta wet out the bare wood first..... It will wick the resin from the mat,but looks like you got it stuck down good!

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Looks good troop! Was you able to get out of the sun for a while ?

Ya sp, using the carport...it helps.

 

[craigweaver]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop, I'm only ordering a gallon of each this time around. I figure I'll need about 3 gallons of each part by the time we're done. We are just trying to get the main under deck area this go around. Our boat has quite a bit less space to fill than yours, lol

What they ^^^^^^ said, you gotta wet the ply before you put down the cloth. Sounds like you're getting the hang of it though.

Stay cool....

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Ya you gotta wet out the bare wood first..... It will wick the resin from the mat,but looks like you got it stuck down good!

Ya, I usually that first, but had the CSM up there cutting it out....so flipped it back then wet the wood, then flipped it back in place...so no time for it to get tacky..always in a hurry I spose..

Troop, I'm only ordering a gallon of each this time around. I figure I'll need about 3 gallons of each part by the time we're done. We are just trying to get the main under deck area this go around. Our boat has quite a bit less space to fill than yours, lol

What they ^^^^^^ said, you gotta wet the ply before you put down the cloth. Sounds like you're getting the hang of it though.

Stay cool....

Hoping I have enough..I'd say I do.. will do the tank underbelly this weekend..Hope I don't make a complete mess of things...

 

[fat fanny]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop lookin good and glad to see your staying cool ! I always wondered what is the wieght of the sheet after the lay up on both sides compared to before?

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Troop lookin good and glad to see your staying cool ! I always wondered what is the wieght of the sheet after the lay up on both sides compared to before?

Thanks FF...Only one layer so far, I didn't notice much difference...I'm sure when it is all said and done, that however much the resin and glass weighed before putting it in, will be added to the weight of the boat in the end.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Going to be rainy here all weekend. I plan on cleaning up some of the rough glass in the limber holes and on top of the stringers today. Also going to add the holes needed back in the bilge. Putting those as far back as I can. Wish I had done it before I glassed them in, not sure why I didn't. Found a sheet of plastic at Lowes that is real flexible. Plan to use it to make a mold more or less to put under the tank so I can put foam under it. Will take pics and let you know how that goes. Kind of winging it as I go.
I have been thinking about using copper pipe for sleeving the limber holes in the bilge. Anyone see a reason not to use copper? My only concern is it might turn green and start bleeding on my gel coat. Been looking for some brass tubing local, with no luck yet.

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Raining cats and dogs over here to troop..Can you just get a reg flared drain tube or woulditbe long enough or maybe pvc ?

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Found some drain tubes at the local Marine shop.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Raining cats and dogs over here to troop..Can you just get a reg flared drain tube or woulditbe long enough or maybe pvc ?

Has not started raining here yet, but looks like itcould any minute. Wth my outdoorgarage, lol, I don't want to take any chances. It isn't too hot yet so not so badinder the plastic.

You decide to prime?

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Lunch time....

No rain yet, in fact the sun peeked out for the last hour and heated up the greenhouse pretty good...


Drilled for my brass tubes on bilge stringers..

Starboard..

Port...

Little long, will have to trim them down, but that won't be a problem...

Got some PVC pipe cut for under the tank..

Kind of undecided on how to proceed here..

The bottom of the tank will be riding right on that strake there in top of the pic...Not much room for a pipe to go down and tie into the central pipe there..

I plan on using PL to hold the PVC down to hull, then 5200 on ends to keep water out of the foam under the tank.

Should I fashion a tube to go down into that PVC or continue the limber hole to go on top of the fiberglass I will be putting on top of the foam here?

Here is a CRUDE drawing showing the cross section of what I am trying to accomplish...

Blue is the tank
Red is stringers
Green glass I will lay on top of foam/under tank
Yellow is the foam

 

[rickryder]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Are you going to glass on the foam or on wood on top of the foam??

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Are you going to glass on the foam or on wood on top of the foam??

Plan was to lay the glass right on the resin, will that work?

 

[rickryder]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I think it will melt the foam... Maybe a 1/4" ply sub deck would be better

Somewhere in my thread I tested insulation board and the effects of chemicals on it...

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I think it will melt the foam... Maybe a 1/4" ply sub deck would be better

Hmmm, bummer...not sure I have room for that...going to measure...

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Here is the sheet of plastic I was going to use to help get the foam under the tank without getting foam on the tank..

As you can see, pretty tight..

Where the tank sits with nothing under it...

The fuel delivery spout is just under the height of the bottom side of deck...with the plastic it was hitting...There is just enough room where it is naturally to put the hose on. Anything under it and the hose will be pinched by the deck. I have entertained the idea of placing a deck hole plate here, but 8" is the largest i can find. That would not be enough to reach the hose inlets and the float. I could go with a rectangular cover that would work....

As you cans see, not much room at all for the limber hole to connect to the PVC below...

At this point I am almost resigned to just putting the tank back in as the factory had it...embedded in foam....I could plug these limber holes...water will still make it's way to the holes back by the bilge...

 

[rickryder]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Me personally I don't like the idea of anything touching the tank that can trap water against it and cause corrosion. If the tank cavity is full of foam I can't see how water will be able to get to the drain in the bilge.

I had lots of room where my tank sat.....even had 2x4 blocks running over the top of it to stiffen the deck. Your tank dosen't even have mounting tabs to attach to the stringers.... Guess you will have to go back to the original design.

Plug the limber holes and maybe drill them through your bulks along the stringers and then into the bilge? You will have to create some sort of channels along the stringers...... That's why I went with the blue stuff and not 2 part.... I have plenty of voids for water to flow out.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Did an experiment...


Glassed some CSM over 2 part foam that was only 5 mins or so old...left side...It ate into the foam a little.

Right side is some foam I had made last week. No effect on it at all...

I think I can safely put foam in bottom of tank area, then glass it and do the tank the way I wanted to do it...and no water will get in the tanks area... I will block those limber holes, there is still access back to the bilge along the outer edge of the stringer for any water to use.

That is as long as I can find a way to keep a tunnel open..still working on that solution

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Has not started raining here yet, but looks like itcould any minute. Wth my outdoorgarage, lol, I don't want to take any chances. It isn't too hot yet so not so badinder the plastic.

You decide to prime?

Still working on it . Good thing I got a dry spot with plenty of lights..