'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Hot damn, somebody is setup to dig in for some major put back! SWEET! Congrats... Burning daylight, better get to glassing

lol...burning daylight...you didn't notice I did not even take the time to write anything on that post?

lol

Back at it....

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Good deal, no moss growing on you or the glassing materials....

Based on the lack luster #'s from last night, 1? Maybe not even 1...... I will again prognasticate that there is a shower & another frosty adult beverage in your future. If no grinding pre-glassing, you can probably skip the hose down in the yard.

BTW: There have been a few complaints about the yard showers. May be that might best be completed under the boat tarp-age/awning

Good to see another of you guys getting onto the put back! Most excellent! Today I was back to my regular duties, but have some 'homework' to complete before the am. And then another out of town trip until Mon PM:facepalm:

 

[boatnut74]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Looks like your all set for the weekend

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Was not looking forward to the last bit of grinding...for now, I'm sure there is more in the future...sooooo...

Got the glass put up....Rack is too big to move, besides being too heavy with all that glass....this should work out nicely.

Despite heat...tight gloves (new).....powerstrip gone bad....last good sanding pad..had one that was chipped...made it work!....





I did manage to finish what I wanted to tonight.

Now my question to you all....

I have had 4 different versions of the canopy protecting the hull from Rain. Has worked very well. Only one time did I get just a teaspoon or so of water in it. (patched a hole on the roof in the middle of a thunderstorm...wife thought I was crazy)

I cleaned the hull out once with a garden house, just plain water. Worked rather well. Has been awhile since I did that, everything seems to be dry to me.

OK for the question...do I want to use water again, this close to the weekend that I hope to start glassin? Would it hurt to put a little soap in if I do?

I have about 6.5 Gals of acetone right now. I know I need to wash things down as I go. But I want as much of the dust up as I can possibly get before using the acetone?

Just a white lint free rag?

Thanks for the advice....come on Friday!!!


JB - no yard showers for me

Boatnut...you bet...and I am starting to realize why you use that name...what are you on 4 or 5 boats now?

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

If you do wash it with a little soap, rinse rinse rinse.... if you think humidity might keep it from drying out good you might use a lint free to dry it a touch....

And wipe down w/ acetone just in advance of glassing in an area.

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Maybe blow it out with a leaf blower or vacuum with shop vac..It looks purdy clean!

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I hit it with the shopvac, but there is so much up und the cap and riding on any flat surface, would like to just get it all out if you all think it is ok. May run out there now and give it a quick rinse with plainwater.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Give it a swipe w/ a bristle brush/broom while running the water. Glass dust can be both electrostatic & resistant to flowing down & out w/ the water w/ out motivation

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I'd wash it. If you towel dry it, I'm sure it'll be bone dry glassin' time.

 

[boatnut74]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Boatnut...you bet...and I am starting to realize why you use that name...what are you on 4 or 5 boats now?

Well, if you count my 3 projects, and our ski boat along with the numerous ones I have picked up for parts I think that makes 7 :facepalm:

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Took the garden house to it. Bailed it out. Should be dry come to orrow after work.

I want to make sure I do things in right order. I would think my first objective is getting the transom put in.

Light on mekp, get a coat on the wood, then a layer of csm wetted down good with resin after the first bare resin starts to get tacky?

Then mix up a big batch of PB to cement it to the hull, light yet firm clamping pressure, then fillet the edges with PB?

I have read the procedure a thousand times, but do not want to mess this up. You all have convinced me I know how to do this, but have never done anything close to this.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I have read the procedure a thousand times, but do not want to mess this up. You all have convinced me I know how to do this, but have never done anything close to this.

I don't know how to say it, but, yeah just about like that. Some do an entire resin/CSM wrap (edges too) on the transom after it's laminated into a 1.5" think unit. I don't think I missed you doing that already, did I? So many threads, so many details, and so many stages...... Then do the PB & clamp routine, followed by PB fillets.

Relax & take a break. Recharge & take a peek at oops or others transom info. Give it a dry run & setup some extra resin & mekp to be on standby and ready to go should you need it. Holler at Gus or Bear (were they the last to do a transom, see above many thread comment). They'll keep ya straight! Then proceed....

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Good point to having some resin ready on standby.

And you must have missed it, I have the transom already glued.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

1. Resin
2. CSM
3. PB
4. WOG Clamp
5. Fillet
6. Adult frosty beverage
7. repeat step 6, unless it doesn't take long to get to step 5. Then skip step 7 & proceed to step 8
8. Tab transom to hull bottom & sides, wet on wet, if accessible in & around WOG clamps
9. repeat step 6 as necessary
10. relax, the 1st of the glassing is finally out of the way

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

1. Resin
2. CSM
3. PB
4. WOG Clamp
5. Fillet
6. Adult frost beverage
7. repeat step 6, unless it doesn't take long to get to step 5. Then skip step 7 & proceed to step 8
8. Tab transom to hull bottom & sides, wet on wet, if accessible in & around WOG clamps
9. repeat step 6 as necessary
10. relax, the 1st of the glassing is finally out of the way

I like

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I suggest long sleeves, and the other PPE & quite a few pairs of gloves, worn all at the same time, and try to keep 1 hand dry (tools, pouring the resin, grabbing the CSM, the paint brush) & only 1 hand wet. Avoid 2 hands wet w/ resin.... and pull 1 of the gloves as often as you need to, you'll use quite a few.

You'll be kicking yourself for thinking it would be challenging once you get started......

May not be on much after noon Fri til Mon late, so I look forward to catching up & seeing some progress down Louisiana way!

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Thanks for the help jb. I was thinking earlier you must stay busy, when you were talking about having road trip. I will try my best to something done this weekend. Safe travels.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

This is all personal family time

My grandmother was 101, mid-March, and I couldn't make it down. Had an SC to pickup after all.......

So Knoxville bound for 2 days, then we pick up our new catahoula puppy Monday am in North Carolina & head back!

Don't tell the Admiral, but I added Knoxville, Tn & Ashville, NC to my CL search-bot. Nothing of real note.... But you never know.... She'd kill me & leave me in the Virginia hills somewhere if I try to bring back a boat. But a motor, hmmm? Yeah, better not push my luck

Thanks for the safe travels. I can't seem to keep out of the driver's seat this spring......

 

[Decker83]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

With your skills you shouldn't have any problems glassing.
Sounds like you have it all down.
I would use a paint roller about 6" long to spread the resin. Like Friscoboater used.
I would use the bubble roller too. They really help to level out the csm and bust out the bubbles.
Try not to mix more than a quart of resin at a time. The more resin you mix the faster it will kick.
I would only wipe down the area with accetone right before you start to glass and only the area you are glassing.
Try not to use more resin than what is needed to wet out the glass.

You will do great at this once you get started. You have great working skills.
Just go and do it.

 

[GT1000000]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Finally got a chance to pop in and see the wonderful gifts you found by the front door...

Don't feel too intimidated or nervous about doing all this glassing...

Even though I can personally guarantee you that you will...it is like everything in life we do for the first time...it feels like you are going to make every mistake in the book and really screw things up...:facepalm:but you won't...

That comes later......just when you think you have got the hang of it, that is when you will get all ****-sure of yourself and the little goof-ups will begin to happen...

Like welding your bubble roller solid with dried resin...or tipping over that freshly mixed bucket of resin, or forgetting the tools you need and the pre-cut CSM and 1708 after you are already in the boat, and you have to climb back out and get the stuff...:redface:...don't ask me how I know...


But it does get easier and less stressful as you become more familiar with the products you are using...

Realistically you have anywhere from 10-20 minutes of working time with the resin...under what seems like a ton of pressure...you can get everything you set out to do in that time period...

The more familiar you get with this stuff, the slower the clock gets and the faster you accomplish the tasks...


Like has been mentioned, keep your batches of resin to a quart or less at a time...this keeps the pot from catalysing too fast...

For a coat of resin and CSM on the transom at the work bench, that will be easy...you will have plenty of time...just get everything prepped to go...

For the transom installation, it is obvious you are going to need more than a quart, probably 3-5 quarts of PB...pre-measure 3 or more separate batches...resin, mek-p, cabosil, milled fibers...but don't mix them together until just before you need them...preferably if available, an assistant comes in mighty handy...but if you are really organized and set up...you can do it by yourself...

Later, I'll give you a call and try to point out a few other tips...right now I gotta go back to the grind...

Happy, Happy, Joy, Joy...