'1990 Bayliner Capri 2050 BR - Deck, stringers, transom, custom interior'

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dorelse

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My new ski locker door also ended up being just a bit to shy on the width to make it flush. I ended up adding 1/4" piece of wood underneath and glassing it all together, then sanding off the edges on top to round it flush.

I'm enjoying the progress picts...keep up the good work.
 

ou18

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Nice work Lowkee. Its coming along nicely. You'll have it in soon and ready to be on the water. Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
 

chrishayes

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I feel you on the paranoia. I keep thinking everything I do through to the last minute. Then I find that the process is much simpler than the forethought. If even the slightest thing gets me questioning it I just do what it is that I think will make it last longer. Screw weight savings and all that. I just DO NOT want to have to do this EVER again! I think you and I are quite similar there Lowkee! Looks good and I am glad I am not using CSM, it looks retarded thick and seems to have a smirk on its face that is laughing at you cause you thought you would have enough resin. You dont muhhhhhhhhh haaaaaaaaa hahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaa:rolleyes:
 

slvrwolf1

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Lowkee I have a question about what you used to bond your stringers to the hull. You said you used PL and I was wandering what one I should use, Will PL 400 work well or should I use something else?
 

lowkee

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Lowkee I have a question about what you used to bond your stringers to the hull. You said you used PL and I was wandering what one I should use, Will PL 400 work well or should I use something else?

No idea which one is PL 400. I used the PL poly adhesive. It works really well, as it stays pliable and can be removed if needed.
 

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I used PL premium when I did mine. I figured if the stringers go bad, then they have to come out anyway, and it's going to be a real pain in the rear to get through all that fiberglass, I wasn't going to worry about the PL being easy to get out either.:p
 

slvrwolf1

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ok thanks I will look for it. After finding more and more damage in my boat I just about get discouraged and give it up then I reread this thread and it inspires me to go forward. thanks
 

lowkee

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Well, it's finished!

No, not the whole thing, but the deck is in and it feels solid as a rock! I celebration of this occasion, I'll not bore you with commentary and go straight to pictures! ;)

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After making bottom tabs and having to grind them off, I decided to give the bottom tabs idea another go. This time I was more careful with the resin and they turned out great. All four sections now had bottom tabs. I did this mainly to keep the wood stable while I walked on it and also allowed a bottom for filling in gaps, which worked out really well.

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In order to sure up where the deck boards would rest, I added a full thickness strip of mat where the deck will meet the hull. Some areas were band-aided a while back, and I wanted piece of mind.

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Here are the deck boards in. You can see the bottom tabs sticking out.

After I was sure the deck boards still fit, now that they were glassed and the cap is back on (temporarily), I made a bead of PL along every deck support and carefully placed each board in place. I then pre-drilled holes for screws along the seams and on the cross bracing. I dripped a bit of poly in each drill hole prior to placing a screw in it, then capped the screw head with some more poly. The SS screws I bought were too short in a few places, so I had to resort to coated deck screws a few times, but that won't matter as nothing will ever touch those screws and even if they rust to death, the screws are just to hold it in place while I glass it in.

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Bottoms tabs are now resined to the hull. The deck is officially mounted. After wetting the bottom tabs, the deck began feeling nice and solid. Prior to the tabbing there was still a bit of give near the ski locker hole. It doesn't budge, now.

Also, at the last second, I decided not to place any foam under the deck. As many know, I have been debating this throughout the restore. After looking at how little foam would fit under the deck, I decided it wouldn't be enough to keep the boat afloat anyhow, so why risk having foam in there if it won't serve its primary purpose. Don't let my choice decide for you, though, as this boat has a shallow V hull, so I have little space to play with, where many boats are deep V.

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I did the gap filling in two steps:
Step 1 involved poly, styrene and sawdust (yes, sawdust!) as a filler. The sawdust filler isn't meant for structure, just a nice honeycomb-like space filler. It will likely provide some support, but I'm not depending on it.
Step 2 involved a topping of poly, cabosil and 3M bubbles as a smooth top layer. This layer was used to make a nice even transition from deck to hull, making future interior items easier to construct.
 
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lowkee

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The upper tabbing is now complete. I used full thickness mat to tab it in as well as reinforce the remainder of the hull as, for a while now, the hull has been flexing where I get in and out and I don't want that happening after I paint the boat. Once everything is together those certain spots that flex now won't even be an issue, as they will be part of the gunwale section. For now, though, I step there and it needs to support me on my tip toe while getting in and out.

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While waiting for poly to harden, I took some time to refurbish the bow and stern eyes. I ended up chiseling the nuts off the bolts, as they were barely existing, let alone loosenable, if that is a word. Stainless steel polishes up nicely with a wire wheel, and a hacksaw cleaned out the threads for new nuts to go on. The bow eye will be used for flipping the hull tomorrow. I plan to rig up a transom hole rig in order to balance the center of gravity of the hull, as I'll be flipping it on my own. Yes, I have no friends!

Tomorrow I flip the hull (or at least prepare to)! Wish me luck! I hope my garage doesn't collapse on me :eek:
 
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Big Pete

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What a brilliant Project , nice work .. i have joined so i can follow the boat along..
 

CheapboatKev

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Nope your not a crazy sumbeach..You are a MADMAN!!!
 

ezmobee

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Wow nice work. I think the floor tabbing is a great idea.
 

chrishayes

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Wow nice work. I think the floor tabbing is a great idea.

I agree. I wouldnt have thought of that. I mean probably not needed but a cool idea and right up my alley of retarded overdone. THink I will copy it...:D Man, that must be a hell of a feeling to get that deck in! Can you help me through the emotions of what it is like when you seal the deck down for good knowing that you wont ever see the work under their again? I have spent the WHOLE summer working on the understructure of my boat and I fear that I will have seperation anxiety once I put the deck on:eek: I am kinda serious...as much work and time as we spend down there it is hard to seperate yourself from the idea of it being gone basically.

I have a question, I am going to end up with a section of my deck that has the hole for the fuel inlet and such just like you. How do you seal water from just pouring off the deck into that hole? I have been trying to come up with a metal solution for this for a while. I intend to just build a couple inch high vertical piece to box it in so that water is diverted around it to the bilge. I know yours is stock so I would like to know how the factory handles this little conundrum.

Great work LOw, I am not your dad but I am proud of you! Seriously, good job.
 

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Thanks guys for the kudos! I am so glad to have that part over with. And yes, I am paranoid of the possibility of forgetting to finish something underneath :eek:. Scary knowing I can never again get under that deck without redoing a tear down.

Chris, for the draining, since it is an I/O it has an engine cover, and the engine cover (stock) had a 4" lip, so no water could drain into there. If course, it couldn't drain anywhere else, as bayliner never installed drains anywhere but the ski locker cover. I plan to make a similar lip and wait until I use it to figure out where the drains need to go. That way I can see where the water naturally puddles and exploit that spot.

As for separation anxiety for all that under-deck work.. I have none. I finally have a feeling of all that work being for something.. a solid deck. I'm almost tempted to put a hose on the deck to test out the draining.. but then I consider water actually touching my brand new deck and think otherwise.

What is really nice is I can wear normal work clothes today, I'll just be doing rigging for flipping hull.. no fiberglass today! It feels like a vacation, hehe.
 

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Man you are doing a kick ***** job on this. I am anxious to see the boat flip. Hope you are going to take pictures? We plan to do something similar using the eye hooks. Be careful doing it by yourself. I'd come help you if you were around here.
 

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lowkee, I'll be in Ashville in the morning and would be glad to be a friend for a day :) (just kidding, to far to travel on at my bosses expense). You have to stand proud at the work you have done. You have given me several ideas and tips that I will be using (with your permission of course) when I get the nerve to start mine. One question I do have is, what size plywood did you use? Be careful flipping that hull and keep up the fantastic work. Can't wait to see more.
Bill
 

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Lowkee I've been a lurker for a little bit and wanted to congratulate you on getting that deck finished, nice work:)

That Bayliner is going to look sleek and fast and last you quite some time.

Just to be the voice of dissent I'd have thrown in what foam would've fit but I understand your rationale as well. Kinda like making sure your parachute is packed correctly when the chute itself has holes and is compromised. Kinda pointless and won't save you anyway so why bother.

Keep up the good work and good luck flipping her over.
 
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Great job lowkee. I just read this entire thread today. And although I'm only in the 'check to see if the power plant works' stage, I can't wait to dig in deeper. I wish I had the room to work you have, also.
 

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Quote: Huron angler
Keep up the good work and good luck flipping her over.

:eek: I hope you meant the boat :D
 

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Hey lowkey, its looking really good. Thanks for the recap photos, it makes keeping track of projects easier. It sure looks like the deck is strong! No chance of flex there. I like how you obviously spent a lot of time planning the rebuild, and it shows.

Two comments:

1) You mention using a wire wheel to clean up the stainless threads. This usually leaves a thin coat of steel on the stainless, and it will rust in short time. If you can pick up the stainless steel pot scrubbers (stainless wool) at the local food store (A&P, ShopRite, etc) and go over the threads to remove the steel residue.

2) Kind of late for this, but when laying glass and it sticks out past the edge of the board, I found it easy to trim off with scissors while the resin is setting rather than have to grind it later. Will still have to hit it with the sanding disk, but much quicker and less glass in the air. Keep a pan w/lid filled with alcohol or acetone to drop the scissors in or you will end up with glass fuzz coated scizzors.
 
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