1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

[Mud Puppy]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Glad to hear the prognoses; Still sending prayers your way from Missouri!

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Thanks MP, and welcome aboard! She was released today and were on a better road for now

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

So I put some more skins on the second door, then ran out of propane....the torpedo heaters really suck a lot of juice!..so I didn't get a chance to do any shaping. So I went to work in the barn, removing the old stairs. I also got the utility room subfloor built.

I'm getting close to putting in the air lines for the booth, but changed some plans. It seems the filtration needed to safely pull breathing air from the main compressor will be cost prohibitive....but I came up with an affordable plan. For anyone following the booth build, ill post the equipment im gonna use.

I framed out a closet in the adjacent mixing/storage area and wired outlets for the air dryer and turbine pump.

This is the 4x6 closet area



The idea is to use a supplied air pump in the closet with a greenhouse shutter wired to the pump switch. When the pump is turned on, the louvers open to allow outside air to the pump filter, which runs a hose to an out let in the adjacent booth. Then add another explosion proof switch near the outlet, to turn the air on and off without having to open the door.

Pump



Powered louver



The louvers will open and remain there til the pump is turned off. The system will be separate from the main compressor air.

Pump $169.00
Powered louver $150.00
Switch $65.00

It will supply positive pressure to the mask/hood, ensuring no ISOS get in..

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

hmm this will be interesting to follow, I don't exactly follow how all the parts go together...but I am sure the concept will come to me as you put it together! Thanks for the update!

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

hmm this will be interesting to follow, I don't exactly follow how all the parts go together...but I am sure the concept will come to me as you put it together! Thanks for the update!

hehe yea, I knew explaining it would be fuzzy

Basically, instead of spending a small fortune on a built in system like this



I decided to use a stand alone outdoor system like this, but with the booth wall/coupling separating the pump from the booth. Normally the pump is set upwind of the job, im just putting it in a ventilated closet. Insufficient fundalation can make a Mcguiver out of anyone



I just need to figure out a bulkhead coupling for the wall between the closet and the booth outlet.

Im also gonna try the HF air dryer for the paint line, about half the cost of an IR Unit. That will go in the closet too, with some other filtration.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Pump

I've used their ^^^ 2 outlet fresh air supply at work many times. Works well.

If it's a new unit, you should have gotten a parts list w/ it. Just order a pump outlet fitting & a hose inlet fitting and what ever connects the actual pump to the outlet fitting, I'd guess it's a hose of some sort, and the fitting isn't screwed into the pump AND the body. Once on hand you can figure out how to pass the line thru a bulkhead.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

I've used their ^^^ 2 outlet fresh air supply at work many times. Works well.

If it's a new unit, you should have gotten a parts list w/ it. Just order a pump outlet fitting & a hose inlet fitting and what ever connects the actual pump to the outlet fitting, I'd guess it's a hose of some sort, and the fitting isn't screwed into the pump AND the body. Once on hand you can figure out how to pass the line thru a bulkhead.

You know JB, that might just work, I can order that part, and maybe use a sleeve on the internal side with a clamped line from the pump to the closet side of the bulkhead...then just connect whatever length hose I need inside. They have various hose lengths....

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

:watermelon: Occasional bursts of good thoughts have been known to occur......

It's the random nature of it that makes it 'charming' according to the Admiral

 

[sphelps]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Nice ingenuity . Was a bit confused at first "not that unusual for me " but now I see plan .
1 ? The fresh air intake louver needs to be a certain distance from any of the booth exhaust vents correct ?
I would love to build a booth like yours one day . Can't wait to see all the cool projects that will be painted in it !

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Nice ingenuity . Was a bit confused at first "not that unusual for me " but now I see plan .
1 ? The fresh air intake louver needs to be a certain distance from any of the booth exhaust vents correct ?
I would love to build a booth like yours one day . Can't wait to see all the cool projects that will be painted in it !

Yep, the louvers are on the intake wall of the building, opposite of the exhaust....no real chance of recirculating expelled booth air. Im looking forward to trying it out too!, but with the dirt floor, it will be a while til I can even pour the slab..it will prolly come of age with the boat

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

You can always "Plasticize" that dirt floor with some cheap painters plastic and give it a Test Shoot. I couldn't wait for concrete once I got the filtration system working. Heck, I'd steal my neighbors car and paint it PINK if I had too!!!! Then I'd blame it on a roaming Gypsy Painting Crew!!!!

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

^^^^ :lol:

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

You can always "Plasticize" that dirt floor with some cheap painters plastic and give it a Test Shoot. I couldn't wait for concrete once I got the filtration system working. Heck, I'd steal my neighbors car and paint it PINK if I had too!!!! Then I'd blame it on a roaming Gypsy Painting Crew!!!!

Now that's modern day "pimp'n" there!...and fugly!

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Update:

I had to work a 1/2 day today, been busy lately and been going all over the state. But I did manage to move a few things forward. I have one last side of the cabin door to skin, then its just the rest of the fairing. The weather is much better for now, and the glassing is MUCH easier. Ill have the last of the skins on today.


I cleaned off the edges with the sander, taaped off the remaining acrylic, and wetted the teak.







Once the door side cures, and the fairing is done on all sides, ill post the final pre-paint results. Ill also have to finish fairing the drain channel repair.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Still havnt located the hatch corner, but I havnt really looked lately....Im thinking it might be in the boat cabin, in like a cabinet or something...

So next item to figure out is the helm pod and guage cluster, switch panels ect.

Since the Admiral is out, I brought the whole guage panel into the family room, where I can putz with it over some coffee and tv



The original acrylic panel is 1/8th thick, and warped from too many close together gauges, on a thin sheet, and 25 years old.



there is a laminate on the face that's coming off too.



The original panel is 1/8" x 9" x 19" but I ordered a precut piece if black starboard 1/4" x 12" x 27"... $42 shipped ouch....

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Last I remember, all the gauges worked...hopefully they just need a good cleaning and polishing, and some anti corrosion compound.

I have them all marked to the corresponding wire or plug, that's tucked under the gunnel in the boat. Im gonna try to take them all out of the acrylic panel, one by one, and reattach the cross wiring as I go.



I also want to try to open and roll back the hour meter to zero....I think that's fair since it will have new engines, and the boat is rebuilt.



Then I can use the original acrylic sheet as a template for the new starboard. The panel area also has a acrylic cover panel with a gasket that screws over to protect from weather.....that's cracked at the screw holes an needs replacing. Im planning on gathering all the weathered acrylic panels from the boat that need replacing, and ordering it all in one shot from a local plastics co, or make them from sheet if they are just flat.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

The original panel is 1/8" x 9" x 19" but I ordered a precut piece if black starboard 1/4" x 12" x 27"... $42 shipped ouch....

From where?

Look @ebay for cut offs. I got a 6X36 piece of 3/8 for for about $18 shipped? Black might have been more but it wasn't double, and thicker is usually more too.....

Quick scan:Details about COLOR CORE MATERIAL BLACK/WHITE/BLACK 1/4" X 24" X 48"


$33 shipped, black face, white core, black face (@back), but I'm sure you could find a smaller all black (or white) cutoff that would certainly be closer to the side you needed........

Nice work on the continuing door skinning project.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

From where?

Look @ebay for cut offs. I got a 6X36 piece of 3/8 for for about $18 shipped? Black might have been more but it wasn't double, and thicker is usually more too.....

Quick scan:Details about COLOR CORE MATERIAL BLACK/WHITE/BLACK 1/4" X 24" X 48"


$33 shipped, black face, white core, black face (@back), but I'm sure you could find a smaller all black (or white) cutoff that would certainly be closer to the side you needed........

Nice work on the continuing door skinning project.

I know JB, I order most things from ebay, but the card I have linked to paypal was hijacked a few weeks ago and someone charged 600 bux worth of stuff in a BJ's in upstate NY....the bank reversed the charge and cancelled it, but I havnt updated the new card on paypal, and the Admiral, by default, is blaming ebay and boat supply stuff for the breach, so im on double secret probation right now lol..I ordered it from discount marine source..King Starboard.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Bummer ^^^

I've been fortunate, never had a problem using cards online, ever, but usually I do use Paypal, but the Admiral has had trouble twice. Once for overbilling error that wasn't noticed for 45 days and a 2nd hack where they then misused the card associated w/ the same online account that was overbilled.....

Good luck gettingback online @ebay.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Bummer ^^^

I've been fortunate, never had a problem using cards online, ever, but usually I do use Paypal, but the Admiral has had trouble twice. Once for overbilling error that wasn't noticed for 45 days and a 2nd hack where they then misused the card associated w/ the same online account that was overbilled.....

Good luck gettingback online @ebay.

Ive been lucky too, til now, but I don't even know if it was from online, or just an average purchase...I tried saying it may have been the nail salon, but that didn't go over too well, and I retreated back to the bunker

Ill hook it back up again soon, im gonna need some stuff....and Ebay is my go to...