1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[maddiedog]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I would not put the rod holders on your doghouse and make it as small as possible. You are gonna want all of the deck space you can get! The vinyl curtain is fine but when the little ones do a face plant running to a rod a little cushion is nice or when you smack into it reaching for a rigger ball in 3 footers it is nice. Not a major issue though. Nice little cut out areas like in the picture are nice too but I like being able to remove the whole thing to get to stuff. I have been on a ton of salmon boats and the smaller the doghouse the better! I use mine to put all my boxes on in the morning then it is just in the way. Trust me when a fire drill happens at 5 AM and it is pitch black with 5 or 6 kings rippin it gets in the way QUICK. Instead of jumpseats mine has a padded seat that rests on the side of my doghouse and on a bracket inside the side cubby. It rests on them and then the padded back is nice. When I don't want them (all of the time for me) they go in the cuddie and are easily out of the way.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Or.... Option # 5. Build 2 shelves on either side of the motor attached to the transom up say 12 to 18" off the floor. Place the batteries on each shelf sideways (like in option # 4). This way you can still get your feet under the batteries and be able to comfortably lean over the back (mitigating your concern in option # 1). Your doghouse will be smaller and your batteries weight will be equally distributed.

Just my 1.98 canadian cents worth of lunch break thoughts!! Nice to see you in the home stretch....

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jason, I'm kinda thinking Inmotion has a good idea there. Gets you more floor space and nice and close for cables.
Glen

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The shelf is going to need sturdy vertical support. I'm not sure the transom will hold the weight without thru bolting - And that is really not a good idea. It can be figured out though. I have faith.

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The shelf is going to need sturdy vertical support. I'm not sure the transom will hold the weight without thru bolting - And that is really not a good idea. It can be figured out though. I have faith.

No doubt it can be --- Jas'l just need real coffee though ... how about a bracket for the shelf like the one in the following picture where the water bottle is running from the floor up under the gunnel?

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

From another thread by some guy. He's right though, with O/Bs more deck space.

I/O, I/O so it's off to work you go..........

Is it too late for O/Bs, Jas? :facepalm:


I was thinking on the shelf idea some support between the shelf and deck would work OK.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Maybe something like this:
Boat porn

BTW: It is looking for a good home..........

 

[Deadwood]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

How about batts on the port and the kicker motor gas tank on the starboard or vice-versa and some seats over them...maybe a bait station too?



(I would really like to move all of them to bow and have the weight forward but that option just ain't workin out for me so I'm staying put. Jas, your engine being bigger probably doesn't lend itself to what I have in place.)

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hmmmmmm.....

Ok, I totally get what maddie is saying...

and make it as small as possible

I do like deck space!

I kinda like the set up of IM is talking about...

Option # 5. Build 2 shelves on either side of the motor attached to the transom

But, well, coming from a canoe/kayak background, I have a real problem with putting any kind of weight at any height in the boat. I pounded this into the heads of my students. Keep the weight low. So, humbph.

Agree with GA...

The shelf is going to need sturdy vertical support. I'm not sure the transom will hold the weight without thru bolting

Any kind of shelf will need to be substantial for sure. I'm not all that amped about putting more bolts through my transom.


And this is a given...

Jas'l just need real coffee though

Starting the day anyother way is rough and just a bad idea.


Now, all of the sudden I believe I hear the faint sound of harps playing. And a white dove just flew by...

with O/Bs more deck space.

Yup, OB talk. Here we go

Tell ya what my friend. Post up a photo of an OB Islander (or Chief) and I'll show you a splashwell the size of Michigan's U.P.


That's a good setup deadwood...

some seats over them

...but no jumpseats for me. I'll have a pair of flip up or drop in seats so I can walk all the way to the stern and access riggers and rods.




Hey fellas, thanks for all the help and chipping in!!!

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey jas, totally agree on the ballast thing... To much weight to high = no good. I got a bit carried away with the height of the shelf... Shelf height would be much better at 4 or 5" --- like the height of a kitchen cabinet kick plate. Food for thought perhaps!
IM

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

like the height of a kitchen cabinet kick plate.

Yah, that may be an option. I really want to put my belly right up against that stern deck there as I'm grabbing rods/whatnot. Getting the batt up by just a few inches in order to slide my toes underneath, that may be the trick. I'll stew on that and maybe do a little mock up in the a.m.

I'd rather have em at the center line than the outsides of the boat, but that's not a deal breaker I spose.

Cheers buddy!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Man, I post a pix of an SC Jupiter for sale, & nothing? As to your battery placement, I favored the option mentioned in Vid #3, that at some point in the past, you dismissed & permanently scabbed in a panel over the area that would have let you recess the batteries partially into the deck in front of the motor.
That said I might suggest a little of both options #'s 3 & 4. I apologize for the rough nature of the drawing:



It sure isn't to scale, and it may only take 1 rod on either side, 1 rod on either angle & 4 across the front, but it's close enough for reference.

Angled has a couple advantages over the options shown above, the one on the right would also be a fairly narrow seat maybe not for a kid, but would be for a teenager or small adult. The clipped corner would also lessen the appearance of a big box covering the batteries, and be 'slightly' less in the way working your way past it or from helm to transom. Breaking up the square boxy look of the motor cover isn't a bad extra benefit either.

Of course, you have to factor in that:
A) I'm a 'glass guy
B) I'm an outboard guy (I was going to say an OB guy, but why set myself up for unnecessary ridicule, then added this.......)
C) I haven't spent the night in a H.I. Express in a long time
D) part raccoon......

Have a good last day of the week tomorrow!!!! Taking a 1/2 day after lunch! Hosta la visa baby!

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Yup, OB talk. Here we go

Tell ya what my friend. Post up a photo of an OB Islander (or Chief) and I'll show you a splashwell the size of Michigan's U.P.

You reckon? I LOVE my OB. Sure she's only 20ft, but she has serious deck and cabin space in her!

TII

 

[Golden Arrow II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Here's some pics of the stern of my boat Jay. I have two large batteries on board, one on each side of the dog house behind the white panels in the back. The gray panels below them don't really do anything but protect the fresh air intake hose's, but they are off of the floor. I hope this will get you some ideas.

 

[bear_69cuda]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Here's kinda the idea for the batts in front of the engine, similar anyway...

(pullinlines boat)

Just on a smaller scale than that ^^^.



Actually, my current direction is to go with padded bolsters for the side gunwales and no padding for the stern piece (fir back there). But I will have a vinyl curtain that will come down and hide the whole transom (and removable jump seats on either side of the doghouse).

Hope that helps a lil

Yep that's cool dooood! ^^^^^^^

I'd go option 3 or 4. Very good use of space! Way cool gain on usage options...

Maybe provide venting for batteries... even a simple air gap tied into the bilge/engine area.

Good cup of coffee and thoughts brutha! I could talk boat smack all night! Thanks man!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Even if you don't put the batteries anywhere in the doghouse, clip the corners like GA II's:

 

[rheagler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I like IM's idea, with the kitchen cabinet toe kick space underneath. This is coming from someone with a splashwell the size of Michigan's UP. But I have lots of room under it for fuel tanks and batteries

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hmmmmmm.....
Yup, OB talk. Here we go

Tell ya what my friend. Post up a photo of an OB Islander (or Chief) and I'll show you a splashwell the size of Michigan's U.P.

OMG - you took me seriously. LOL I do believe that I have griped a time or two about the size of SC splash wells.

Toe kick - that's the ticket. And move the batts as close as you can to the center.

 

[marioc]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Jas,

Option No.4 is what looks like would be the best setup(for what you're looking for).
Seems to work real well for others that I've seen with similar type configuration.

I would make sure to use hinges on the dog house/seat, etc.. to allow for easy access to motor belts, etc...

Happy building!!!

M

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Man, I post a pix of an SC Jupiter for sale, & nothing?[/ATTACH]

Sorry buddy! Yah, I sure don't need another boat around my place!! You could go alum though

I'll post up some thoughts on batt placement in a sec. Thanks a bunch for the drawings!

TII, you are just showing off! Well, you really should cuz your boat is totally awesome

Here's some pics of the stern of my boat Jay.

Really cool to see some boat in action shots, thanks for posting up GAII!

I kinda like those storage hatches at the stern on each side of the dog house. If I have enough room to squeeze something like that in I'll definitely go that route!

Yep that's cool dooood! ^^^^^^^

I'd go option 3 or 4. Very good use of space! Way cool gain on usage options...

Maybe provide venting for batteries... even a simple air gap tied into the bilge/engine area.

Good cup of coffee and thoughts brutha! I could talk boat smack all night! Thanks man!

Thanks man! Yah, my plan would be to kinda have "common air circulation" between the two sections of the dog house. (if that makes any sense)

Hey, how about I brew up a fresh pot, come on over and we'll chew the fat!

Even if you don't put the batteries anywhere in the doghouse, clip the corners like GA II's:

Yah, I definitely want to have some nice rounded/clipped corners for the dog house. Stay tuned for that design...

This is coming from someone with a splashwell the size of Michigan's UP. But I have lots of room under it for fuel tanks and batteries

It's really too bad those splashwells are so honkin huge, eh!

OMG - you took me seriously. LOL I do believe that I have griped a time or two about the size of SC splash wells.

Actually yes, I did!

I'll say this very quietly as I don't want my IO brethren to get torqued....

I was sitting on the fish box this morning, looking at this...

And I let my mind wander to the idea of that big V6 otta there. A nice OB on a bracket off the back ya know. Man, what an awesome amount of space!!!! That would be so cool! Maybe I'll look into going from IO to OB on a bracket for this rig:facepalm:

Jas,

Option No.4 is what looks like would be the best setup(for what you're looking for).
Seems to work real well for others that I've seen with similar type configuration.

I would make sure to use hinges on the dog house/seat, etc.. to allow for easy access to motor belts, etc...

Happy building!!!

M

Yah, sorta my thought would be that the upper section could tip out/over with a nice solid piano hinge when I just want to do a quick vent or check the oil/whatever. I was kinda thinking I'd put the whole doghouse on rollers, have it latched/secured at the transom, so I could just unhook it and roll it out. I have a few more ideas on this but that will be on down the road........

As always, thanks a bunch for chipping in fellas!