1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[marioc]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I know why I'm up....(4 day old baby) why are you?

I was thinking the same thing... Jas is hard core. No playing around! Actually, I am starting to understand the balancing act of getting some work done while mom and baby are sleeping, etc...

I can relate to your situation(ezmo...) ... 3 week old here!

M

 

[Pmccraney]

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I had a great opportunity to hang out (on the phone) with P. McCraney yesterday. What a excellent man! Such a cool cat, I can't believe the glass guys got him What a shame.

Ah well, it was fun to chew the fat with ya buddy

Somehow missed this....yeah, man, good talking boats with ya...proof that Tinny's and glassers can cross party lines for the betterment of boating... (or, maybe you just wanted to get community service points in the Starcraft club for live evangelical outreach to a an admitted glasser)... It now makes sense to me that you started our conversion with "you know, pm, the first step is admitting you have a problem...". I had fun, regardless of your ulterior motives...

 

[Golden Arrow II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Motor inside the boat not on a cart, Check
Looking good buddy

Few ideas,

I would use square alum stock filled with epoxied wood for the spacers

Use one of those magnets on a stick (for picking up lost/dropped parts) to get that nut in there.

One thing to look at before mounting the stringer spacer, is that you have enough room to get the oil filter out when the engine is in its place. There isn't a lot of room in between the stringer and the engine on my boat, its not my favorite job to change the filter out.

It looks like you might have to cut the deck out for some clearance for this new motor. I would check that you have enough room to get at everything before final mounting of the motor. Way easier to cut, and cleaner with the motor out of the way.

If your putting in a bilge pump you might want to mount that in there before you cover up the bay with the motor. Just leave the wires wrapped up, and out of the way until you wire it all up.

 

[GT1000000]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

One thing to look at before mounting the stringer spacer, is that you have enough room to get the oil filter out when the engine is in its place. There isn't a lot of room in between the stringer and the engine on my boat, its not my favorite job to change the filter out.

Just a random thought, because I know NATZING about I/O set-ups...but could a remote oil filter be installed on these to make this job less of a PITA...???

 

[third times the charm]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

gt1000000 has a point. You can do it all teh time for engine swaps in cars and trucks(ex. v-8 swap in a jeep or s-10) I know i have seen oil filter relocation kits for marine use. That would give you more room to play with plus not cussing later when you change you oil.(what idiot put the filter in that location) type thing, been there done that. Im usually the idiot who didnt give it that extra thought.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

GAII - Thanks for stopping by buddy. I'll double check space on that oil filter. I'll have the engine up and out of the way to put that nut in there so no biggie. Good eyes on the deck being a little tight. All will be well once I get the risers in place though. They will provide the clearance I need. Yah, good idea on the bilge pump. Although, I swiped the one I bought for the Islander and installed in the Jet. Whoops. I actually have reasonable space under the engine for sticking hands in there so it shouldn't be too tough to get one in later. Thanks for chipping in buddy!

GT1M, 3rd time - Hmmmm, hadn't really thought about a remote filter. I think I may be ok without but I'll chew on it a bit

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Nothing special, just the stringer risers fabbed up...

Side note...

Yesterday, I hatched my plan for snap in carpet on this Islander and the Jet. I am pretty pumped, good quality stuff at bottom feeder $$$. Stay tuned for that

 

[GT1000000]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I was beginning to worry, the Sun was already up around here and you hadn't gotten up yet???...

Outstanding riser solution... looks to be hell bent for strong[Maple], and going to be solidly anchored with the 3 lags...Very nice...

And to use one of your phrases...3 thumbs up on access all around the engine...KOOOOL!

OK, now that I know all is well in Jasland...I can shrug off this nose cold and try and get my center stringer done...

L8r,
GT1M

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I had fun, regardless of your ulterior motives...

Are my motives ulterior? Huh. I thought my motives were straight forward, super obvious, like totally right out front for all to see

It was cool hanging with ya

Thanks for the vote of confidence GT!

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I found a few more minutes yet this morning and ran a template/rough fit of the cabin bulk heads. Cool seeing a little structure in place there

 

[1959Cherokee]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Those risers are looking sharp!!
Almost looks like a manufactured part with the smooth sanded edges, nice work!!

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Looking good Jas. Do you need to remove some of the paint from the AL stringer to have better grab for the 5200 before you set the riser in place (instead of bonding to the paint)? Don't let too much engine weight squeeze out too much of the 5200.

Since ya seem to want to save all that 5200 in short term storage on your sweat pants for re-use later, I'd hate to see ooze out into the bilge, were recovery & re-use might be difficult My tile crews in Las Vegas used the same technique for smuggling thin-set & grout off the job site

The maple looks good, nice job on the fab & edge ease over. There aren't any table legs or cutting boards missing from the kitchen, seeing as how good a scrounging up materials for inventive & creative reuse in the Islander. This is the home of the old ladder right??? And don't make me drag up the SS Tide Jug photos. We'd like to make sure you get to splash w/ no visits from the Skillet, or having to test drive the Islander cuddy bunks pre-splash:facepalm:

Watching your progress is a great motivator, thanks. The MRS can recognize your voice from across the room, and knows your Felini like camera work when 'm wearing headphones

 

[windshield_time]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Ok so the oil filter is gonna be difficult but not impossible. How about the alternator. Can you get it out of there with the riser in place ? I know I wouldn't want to have to hoist the engine in order to replace an alternator. Just something I think I see from the video, maybe not a problem.

 

[bear_69cuda]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Just glass those risers in brutha!

They look pro dude! Good job!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Those risers are looking sharp!!
Almost looks like a manufactured part with the smooth sanded edges, nice work!!

Thanks dood! Yah, once painted up it kinda should look like they were built in that way

Looking good Jas. Do you need to remove some of the paint from the AL stringer to have better grab for the 5200 before you set the riser in place (instead of bonding to the paint)?

The maple looks good, nice job on the fab & edge ease over.

Thanks JB! The 5200 will surely be there to hold the stringers in place but primarily there to keep all the water out, ya know. The lags will lock everything down.

I just laid on a coat of epoxy, they look pretty (I'll paint em anyway).

Ok so the oil filter is gonna be difficult but not impossible. How about the alternator. Can you get it out of there with the riser in place ? I know I wouldn't want to have to hoist the engine in order to replace an alternator. Just something I think I see from the video, maybe not a problem.

Thanks WT! Yah, in the video I was kinda cranking my left hand to reach that filter, really pretty easy with the right. Yup, alt would be cake to replace if need be down the road.

Just glass those risers in brutha!

They look pro dude! Good job!

Fiberglass?? Huh what a great idea!!!

Fist bump buddy

Have a great Sunday guys!

 

[Pmccraney]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Looking good, bro; Real good!!

2 thoughts just occurred to me as I watching the last vid: How you are ventilating your engine compartment? Do you have side vents or do they vent out the top? Just thinking in terms of any space that might be needed for the vent fan and the little bellows that attach to it.

Also, I know you are going use 5200 for sealing/gluing the risers to the original engine mount stringers. I agree with JBC to maybe go light on the engine weight so it doesn't get compressed out of there (he's a pretty smart coon after all)....

You are probably already planning on this (knowing you, I am sure you are), but just for the sake of general edification, you may want to drop some 5200 down in your drilled holes or apply some to the lags before they go in (or both) just so if any water does sneak its way down those holes...It won't do much harm...

Thanks for posting... I'm enjoying watching the vids and counting how many different snow hats you have... I think I might have ONE somewhere, but haven't been luck enough to use it this "winter"

 

[rrumba]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Looks good Jas, like the risers as well. i think with one of those tool pick ups that are bendable you could lightly tape the nut on and slide it in place without having to pull the engine and then drop the bolt and start it. Then remove the motor mounts, get a 90 deg adpater for your drill for 19.00 at home depot, drill and lag your stringers in, put the mounts back on and all this completed without having to move the motor at all............ ta da........

well a thought anyhow.

 

[VegasNordie]

In the future you are going to have an engine cover correct? Will the engine cover be easily removable to access the oil filter? When I was watching your video that question popped in my head, because for about $25 bucks you can goto a remote oil filter.

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[rrumba]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

i agree with you Vegas and the others that have also stated that. I think that is what i will end up doing along with a remote oil drain out the transom to make it much easier.

 

[craigweaver]

Jason, you have inspired me. I posted my first vid today to begin documenting my project.

Those stringer risers are looking great! When do you actually sleep dude? I mean seriously, you posted a new vid at 3:54 am?

Keep on keeping on.

 

[boatnut74]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Those stringer risers should be bomb proof, but I wouldn't expect anything less from you