1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
The first pic, the trailer is to high, you would have to back it in a long ways to get your boat off. ,
Like all the rest I would go with the new trailer, as long as it will handle the boat. Save the pain of working on the trailer. put your attention on the boat.
As for the silicone, never ever. I would go with ezmobee on this one, 4200 or 5200,
My $0.02 worth.
Bob

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

What's wrong with 50 year silicone? The stuff is used on houses to keep water out! I can understand not using it in the drain plug but the eyebolts that may need to come out at times to be replaced or whatever?

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Because the silicone will become self-aware, realize it's on a boat and not on a house, and attack and kill your family. That's why.

(I've been on here a long time and have become very good at remembering and reguritating good information. Remembering the who's, what's, where's and why's? Not so much )

 

[BobsGlasstream]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Mick,
My opinion is simply that an opinion.
Silicone tends to shrink and yes on a house it is used but a house doesn't have the volume of water near it that a boat will experience in a single day. While cruising at low speeds a boat will hit waves or wakes and the water will hit it from every angle, any space left by the shrink can leak.
Again thats my opinion.
Bob

 

[Donkey]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Scrap the silicone. Why risk it failing and then having to spend the time to "do it right the first time". That and whatever it would cost to get it recovered from the bottom of the lake.

Definitely new trailer. For $500, I agree that you would definitely be into the others for more than that. And for the same amount that you will eventually put into restoring the old ones, you could have a new one and put that extra money into repainting it to match the AT. I'm getting ready to take my boat off the trailer and I know I have to replace all the rollers and much of the iron. I may save that money and put it toward a new trailer which I know is completely sound from axle to winch.

 

[Donkey]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Waiting for some pictures from ya tonight.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Thanks guys for all your replies. Donkey- no pics tonight. I did get the boat waxed tonight and got the transom drain plug in.

I will replace the silicone with 4200 after I get the boat flipped.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Hey Micks,

What was your total quantity of primer and paint for the hull. Been watching you since January. Great job and perseverance. I have a 62" Lonestar Flamingo that I will be flipping this fall to do the hull. Right now just doing some basics to get her in the water to play. I lucked out and have no deck, stinger or transom issues. Just getting the 1962 "Selectric Shift" Evinrude Lark completely rebuilt and all the electrical redone. Got a Unique 1962 "Gator" trailer that I will be restoring as well. Anyhoo, let me know what to expect on how much paint and primer to buy for the hull.

Keep up the good work

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

I used half a quart of the undercoater primer and exactly two quarts of the paint for my three coats of paint.

 

[Mountain_Man]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Just got a look at your thread first time this week.

Looking good!. I agree on the new trailer, and I'm afraid I don't know enough to give my opinion on the silicone.

 

[osborn159]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

mick, i know i read it in this thread somewhere, cant seem to find now, what did you use for body filler?? was considering rusto marine paint for the hull, the admiral of the house said get the pettit it will probly last longer,even if you just paint it white, she likes the ocean blue. so ill get the pettit, thats still a ways off. got the interior to rebuild first.
thanks for your help and thread, ive learned a lot here.
D

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Darren- pages 25-27 are my sanding and filler pages. To sum it up for you I used 3m High Strength Filler which was very tough to sand- I had to use an orbital sander for this filler. It can be sanded by hand but it is very tough and takes alot of elbow grease. I used the high strength filler to skim over the keel(which was beat up) and for the low areas that needed to be built up a bit(1/8" roughly). Then I used 3m Premium Filler which is sandable by hand and also very strong to go over the high strength filler to smooth it out. I also used the Premium Filler for everything else like nicks, scratches, un-even areas, etc.

Whatever brand you use you need to be sure you are using something that can be used above and below the water line. Especially if you are filling on the bottom of the boat that will be exposed to water, or else your paint will eventually bubble up be compromised. Most of the product have "above or below" right on the label. If not, all the products have a technical assistance number that you can call to find out.

Hope this helps Good Luck!

 

[osborn159]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

thanks mick that helps, i only have one bad scar, bout 1/8" deep 8in long so ill probly use the premium, it looks like there is a million(exageration) holes drilled in the transom not sure what the po had in mind, so i have a bunch on the transon to repair as well, other than that not to much on the underside.
again great work, thanks for the info, D

ps. my name is Dennis

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Dennis- sorry

sounds like you will be off to a great start then. Yeh, the premium will be perfect for that.

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Well I finally got out to the boat for the first time this week- she is looking good and she is still all slick after waxing her

Sunday is the day that I will be moving the boat out of the garage and moving the cap in

I'm just going to place her outside(once I get all my pallets, wood, and landscape trailer moved) and hold off till the last minute on getting a trailer. I am going to go new and the boat place has them so there is no rush- especially since I didn't plan $ wise for a new trailer.

Tonight I tried using the wire brush drill attachment on my Arkansas Traveler logo's that are pitted. It cleaned them up a bit but didn't really do anything for the pitting.

Does anyone know of any type of do-it-yourself/chroming kit/plating kit/a product I can do myself? Rather than spending hundreds of dollars a piece to have them refinished professionally. I'm not looking for perfection but on the same note I just don't want to spray paint them.

Here is a before and after shot of the pitted logo's

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Thanks Guys!

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Never used it, but found this on the web

Eastwood Liquid Chrome Paint & Clear Coat Kit

Pricey but cheaper that the Real Job!!

Been following you and Arch for a long time. Great work.

 

[osborn159]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

mick, other than the pitts they dont look to bad, maybe just spray poly clear coat on them???? the pits even chromed would still be there, just chromed.
looks good, D

 

[tmcalavy]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

There's really no way to clean up or un-pit old, pitted hardware. You can have it rechromed or powdercoated but that gets real pricey. Might consider using the old pitted pieces as a pattern for a vinyl decal instead...any graphics person or a sign shop can do that for you. Wouldn't be original, but you still get the look and they are easy to replace if needed and won't pit like the old metal pieces. After all the work you've done on the Traveler, I wouldn't put the old pitted hardware/logos back on there...been there, done that...looks decent from a distance but ruins the look when you are up close if you are a details-oriented person.

 

[*EdC*]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Never used it, but found this on the web

Eastwood Liquid Chrome Paint & Clear Coat Kit

Pricey but cheaper that the Real Job!!

Been following you and Arch for a long time. Great work.

Here's a site for the DIY'ers

www.caswellplating.com

 

[micks110]

Re: 1962 Arkansas Traveler restoration

Thank You everyone for your thoughts! EdC- I am looking into the site that you sent me- thanks.

Tonight I cleaned up outside to make some room for the hull. Then I took down the tarp to get ready to move the cap over on Sunday.

Here is what the cap looks like with the curtain down

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