Tail_Gunner said:
However time has shown us that unfortunatley radical muslem's do not adhere to such principle's as your's.
TG,
We are on the same page. I was just trying to calm things down a little and reassess. People write without the benefit of body language etc. Our friends from the UK were reacting to the Nuke 'em stuff which I believe is insane even though some might differ.
Tail_Gunner said:
Who here in this forum is arrogant enough to say and state he or she has the skill's to sway Hitler, Musolini, Polpot, Stalin, and the list goes on. I dare say no one
Again total agreement. That is why I used that evil word "evil" again. These types are the personification of evil. They know no up nor down, no right no wrong. Words do nothing with these types. BTW, when I say these "types", I mean the radical element and the sociopath.
Tail_Gunner said:
Now i ask, why does not one liberal ever go up to the tyrant's of this world and give them such wisdom.................
I'll answer this question. It is because "liberals" generally believe that man is fundamentally good, instead of the obvious and opposite reality.
[colour=blue]Sorry to break in QC, but I think you are
very wrong here, (like 180 degrees off: my man). Liberals believe that "man" is bad and incapable of providing for himself without the direction and total interference of a strong nanny government.
Cornservatives have a positive view of fellow man, (n' women), n' a positive outlook. Why do they, (Libs) pass anti smoking, helmet, seat belt laws et al? Why the HATE laws? The Libs are very mad at GW Bush because he assumed, (a positive assumption that I agree with n' feel we should work more at), that Arabs would want freedom n' make a free Iraq work. If you look at the underlying assumptions of Communism n' Socialism n' compare to what Cornservatives prefer: Capitalism, self sufficency n' personal responsibility it is hard to 'spain the profound differences any other way, IMHO.[/colour]
This is why they believe those that you have listed can be reasoned with. Also, and in contradiction, to confront one with their obvious evilness is to admit there is a good and a bad, a right and a wrong etc. This is unacceptable as it implies that there are concepts that are not negotiable and discussable. This is counter to the "sensitivity" that we are all supposed to show to others, regardless of how backward and/or evil they may be. If we all just leave each other alone then things will be just Dandy . . . Sooo, if these guys are fundamentally good, and we also cannot define evil behavior, then what is there to talk about? Absolute confusion, so just sit and ponder some more.
[colour=blue]Kinda think the other problem you are having is yer forgetin' 'bout moral relativism, (a favorite of Libs who can't possibly pass judgments, ['cept on mean hypocritical Cornservatives], or someone's feelin's may get hurt; don't ya know). The USA (is very bad) n' = to the USSR, (remember). President Bush (is very bad) n' = to OBL or Hitler et al, (remember). Sorry to intervene ya don't need to reply (just my take or $.02: that's all), Respectfully JR[/colour]
Tail_Gunner said:
This is not a religous rant, but a question? we have the ability and the mean's, but do we have the right.......
Yes, we have the right, but I would not call it that. I would say we have the responsibility to label evil, and we have the responsibility to destroy it. What is tough is the timing decision, and those with the benefit of hindsight see these things so clearly. In this regard I actually respect Hillary's refusal to say she made a mistake voting to go to Iraq. At the time it seemed like the right thing to do, so it was . . . Now, there may be things we would do differently, but so what? In this case, clearly the Iranians have chosen poorly, they need to know this, they need to be stung and stung hard, but not obliterated . . . Interestingly the Haut dude, who considers himself a liberal (it feels good), but gets waaaaay confused sometimes, thinks they deserve a 100,000 - 1 ratio response . . . Isn't that 1.5 Million?
