Hi Rubberfrog i dont thing for one second you are anti-brit nor do i believe we are begging for mercy but i repeat my question in that what would a strike on iran actually solve besides the obvious of killing millions for just 15
[colour=blue]Hi Lisa, Sorry to butt in again. I guess I did not adequately explain myself previously; or maybe you reject my statments, (sorry I can't tell). You said you knew very little about American history, (I hope you know British and European and World history), as knowledge of history can and does save one from encouraging your elected leaders to make the same misstakes over and over. This is not about the 15 sailors, (they are just the current pawns used by Iran). This is about what you do in the face of open aggression by an arch enemy. Neville Chamberlain had a time honored philosophy that had been tried since the dawn of human history with the exact same results every single time. The Lesson: If you appease an aggressor they will want more and more until they have everything you hold dear. Sir Winston Churchill had another time honored philosophy that had also been tried since the dawn of history. Sir Winstons' always worked if ya win the war, Chamberlains' always lead to a bigger loss of life and material when the aggressor kept taking what they want until you either win or loose, ('cause yer life does not mean much to the aggressor). EVERY TIME IN THE HISTORY OF MAN: Lisa. No contrary examples, (ZERO NADA). That is why I have stated the anti war Libs, (although we all have warm fuzzy wishes n' feelings), are trying to make things much worse, maybe they don't know history and the nature of aggressors, I don't know but IT NEVER WORKS AND ALWAYS MAKES IT WORSE. I thought Rubber was right in his initial take, (as both Britian and the USA are dominated by Libs), and it seems he is right so far. [/colour]
i have to admit though i have been watching it all unfold on the news and it is getting pretty tense but also quite petty iranians changing there minds on this and that we wont bow to there demands for admittance to anything but we wont have a confrontation either but something does need to happen now
[colour=blue]Something that you may wish to cornsider: do ya think that if you and every Brit were to renounce Christianity, and your alliance with the USA n' agree to provide your masters with nuclear technology, and all of your military technology, pray to Mecca five times a day every day and follow the instructions of the Muslim Mullas. That may buy ys a few years of relative peace. That said: history again gets in the way. The fact is that Muslims always kill more Muslims for not bein' Muslim enough then they kill infidels, (and they have always killed lots of infidels). So: there is not a very warm n' fuzzy path here if ya think jus' a li'l. The other way. Maggie Thatcher, n' Sir Winstons': show 'em that stiff upper lip n' give 'em 5 days to evacuate Tehran, (n' hope they blink). If they don't blink the 15 sailors will have sacreficed themselves for the good of all mankind. Iran would be very reluctant to take another 15 or even one as they ponder how to begin to rebuild their great city. That is the kinda outcome that may save civilization as we now know it: Lisa. I think Rubber is right in that nothing will be done and the aggressor will be rewarded, (as has been done since 1979 when this WAR started). TG: THE FALL OF THE SHAW WAS THE START OF THIS MESS! It will lead to a terrible loss at some point in the future where we will either fight or cede our freedom to Persian/Muslim masters. "FREEDOM IS NEVER FREE: MRS J." Respectfully, (I mean it and I know my words are blunt but they are a true reflection of human history), JR[/colour]
Lisa
