sold a boat and it busted!

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Lone Duck

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Re: sold a boat and it busted!

DO NOT!!!!!! OFFER ANY MONEY! If you do, you are legally admitting responsibility.
 

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oops! should have read more before i posted that one!
who cares i was right! your right! and their outta luck.
(I dont mean to sound mean)!
what a great thread!
cb keep doin what your doin.
your on the right track!
 

freddyray21

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Seems like they would have already done that by now - they have seen that CB has a lawyer that knows what he's doing, and plays hardball. In a way, he has tipped his hand somewhat.
To review: CB didn't cave when they confronted him themselves. He didn't cave when they went to court.
He's moved the venue to 'nullify' the inconvienience to him of going to their turf. He has a lawyer that obviously knows how to play hardball.


The fact that they haven't pulled out of this yet means that they feel that they have *some* sort of means of winning.

Or they are just really stubborn. There's no telling with people.

-V
the venue was not moved to "nullify' the inconvenience. It was moved because the other court did not have the jurisdiction to hear the case. Don't know about Tenn, but discovery is not generally allowed in small claims court. If he really wants to mess with him he can have it moved up to circuit court where you can do discovery, interrogatories, ect. I don't see him loosing this case and would not be worried about the expert.
 

dmcb

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While it might sound good to mess with them, remember when the dust settles, you will receive a bill from your lawyer for every I he dots and every T he crosses.
Lawyers love angry clients.
I would get it over as soon as possible.
Doug
 

gene8084

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A used boat is a used boat. I just bought one a couple months ago. Sold as "turnkey". I know a bit about engines, not a ton, but he started it, it ran, oil pressure looked good, temp normal, it sounded really sounded good, shifted and all that…

He seemed like a nice honest guy, so I bought it.

I got it home, found the can of ether rolling around in the bow. I didn't know enough to see if the engine was hot when I got there...like careful prep to get it running.

Either way, I've spent the last two months trying to get it to run. The starter was fried, the alternator was not charging (had both rebuilt), carburetor was a mess when I pulled it apart,...the list goes on. I’m still fighting to get it running…

I'm a bit bummed. Either the guy that sold it to me was lucky when it ran for him or he knew more than he told me, but in the end I made the decision to buy it...no arm twisting.

I'm certainly spending a fair amount of time, money, and frustration to get it to that turnkey state (with lots of help from this forum), … but once again “I” made the decision. Shame on me for not knowing enough going in, but I bought it "asis" and now I'll figure it out from here or sell it at a loss.

Tell'em he should have bought a brand new boat with a warranty if he was looking for guarantees.

You’re in good company here in this forum from what I can see.

Good luck to you.

Don't pay him a dime!!!

BTW...ask yur attorney if this forum thread would make good evidence. Must be a couple hundred years of experience in this thread alone.
 

SS MAYFLOAT

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Wow, forgot all about this post. Sure is hard to believe an 18 year old would be so persistant.

CB, by any luck, do you know the credentials of their so called "Mechanic"? As such how long has he been in the business? Is he certified or had any formal training? This mechanic should know if he is proved wrong, his creditabilty can be runined. My guess is that he is a friend of the planitif and he won't be out any money. Most mechanics will not go to court due to an inability to prove what caused a failure. One can only prove what broke and caused the failure, but not the reason why it was caused.

All I know is that I wish I could of had a boat like that when I was 18. Heck, I'm 51 now and wish I had a boat like that now.

Good luck buddy on nailing this silver spoon fed punk. At least that is the way I take him :D
 

j_martin

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I bought a used car from a very reputable firm once, and the phrase "as is" was explained to me this way.

"If you buy this car from me, and you drive it down the road, and it breaks into two pieces, you own both pieces."

So what's the point?

John
 

stump jumper 1

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Even if you sell somthing "as is", you MUST disclose everthing that you know is wrong with the boat. Unless you do that, and they can prove you purposefuly witheld information, they might have a claim against you. Otherwise, it is just bad luck for him.

Just lost an "as is" claim, they don't need to disclose anything it is up to you to test it or have it inspected beforeyou buy. Thats what the judge told me.
 

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this is a nail biter!
were all on your side cb
but man the 24th is a long way away!
 

country_bumpkin

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this is a nail biter!
were all on your side cb
but man the 24th is a long way away!


Just two days away.

I think it's safe to tell everyone that I will be showing up in person on Wednsday. I have nothing to gain or lose by letting that information out. But that is all I can tell you at this point. I can give you specifics on Wed afternoon.

Thanks friends!
 

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I have to take a trip on Wednesday and am thinking about canceling so I can sit by the puter and wait for the update
 

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cb, if this thing goes past wednesday, let us know the dollar amounts your are going to be Getting into,
(and that does not count the 17,000 some beer You gotta buy us when you win!:D Corona please!:D)
If this gets stupid expencive, I gotta plan 4 u.
(im just gonna saw what every one else is thinking!)
But as for right now, KEEP ON KEEPIN ON BUD. WERE ALL BACKING YOU ON THIS ONE!
 

muskyone

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this is the legal discreption of as right out of the Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law ?1996 as is clause
: a clause in an agreement providing that the buyer accepts the item for sale in its presently existing condition without modification or repair
Note: Under Uniform Commercial Code section 2-316, an as is clause releases the seller from responsibility for the quality of the item for sale.
 

muskyone

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ok this is from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As is (or as-is) is a legal term and concept used to disclaim liability for an item being sold. "As-is" denotes that the seller is selling, and the buyer is buying an item in whatever condition it presently exists, and that the buyer is accepting the item "with all faults", whether or not immediately apparent. This is the classic "buyer beware" situation, where the careful buyer should take the time to examine the item before accepting it, or obtain expert advice. Oddly, the seller is also saddled with "as-is" if the item being sold turns out to be much more valuable than thought.

On the other hand, if the item is misrepresented, then this disclaimer may be an ineffective defense. In other words, it may be purchased "as-is", but the buyer is stuck with it only if it substantially conforms to what the seller claimed it to be (an express warranty or representation may override a general express disclaimer).

A seller of a used automobile, for example, sells his car to a buyer, and puts into the contract of sale, the statement: "The buyer accepts the automobile AS-IS, WITH ALL FAULTS". Two minutes after the buyer drives off with his shiny '87 Honda Accord, the engine seizes, and the car stalls. Unless the buyer can show that there was some fraud involved in making the sale (maybe it is actually a mismarked 1976 Gremlin), he is stuck with the car without any recourse to return the car to the seller, or to get his money back. This would be a specific example where fraud in the inducement could outweigh anything in the contract, express or implied: it simply doesn't matter what disclaimer or limitations may be found in the contract, if the contract is void (or voidable) for any reason.
 

muskyone

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dont get me going on this. i was sued by one of these type of people and by the time it was done the judge made her go to the bank and get me cash for my expensives
 

thrasher

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Muskyone, should that read expenses or explosives? It sounds like you would have been happy to blow her up.. :)

Gary
 

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CB, good luck tomorrow in "legalland"! This situation is absurd and you deserve to walk away with more money than you started. Bill
 

muskyone

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if i had any clue on how to spell punctuate and type i'd tell you about it
 

country_bumpkin

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However this turns out tommorrow, just gotta say, the real people on this forum have given me support, advice, and a whole lot of humor. You have made this whole thing almost enjoyable, if that makes any sense.

I have read all the posts, several times. I have some favorites, one of the very first cracked me up, which I will qoute now:

......"his mother called"??. Well, nothing that ever starts with that on behalf of a young man who, the day before, is old enough to pilot a one ton boat could ever end well. "Hi this is Tommy's Mom, I'm calling about the boat you sold him"...."click" (comes to mind).

Lots and lots of others too. Good advice, great humor, good stories about personal experiences................gotta love it!

So, right now, talked to my lawyer, having a beer (or three), gonna watch some tv....and sleep well.

Thanks Iboat friends!
 
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