Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

[Grandad]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

iam - The only reason to keep the old transom intact is to provide a template. If it's going to be a hassle to get it out, maybe you should weigh up the option of just ripping out the punk wood and making yourself a cardboard template by trial and error in an hour with a pair of scissors. If it's swollen that much, it won't provide a very workable template anyway.
- Grandad

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

You might be right grandad. I will give it a day or two and see how it goes.

I am on track just want to get all the wood out before the snow flies.

thanks for the advice!

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

in case anyone is interested. I installed the AV (smart classroom) on this vessel. Can tell you one thing, its more fun than installing them in a classroom.

http://blogs.middlebury.edu/researchvessel/about/


It was built in Bellingham, WA. I went out 3 times so I basically saw it from hull to finish. The builder basically has the main pieces stamped out and then they weld them together like a GIANT puzzle. Its an impressive process.

Its kind of the ultimate tinny.

I had to go and fix a monitor that controls the navigation and I wasn't quite able to get it finished before the 1 oclock class so went out and did some "coring" pretty cool what this thing can do with winches and A frames.

A great thing for the conservancy and health of the lake.

Twin screw yan mars

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

SUCCESS!

Thanks for the help.

I ran the heater for a couple days and then used the ol maple tree and my come along.

I hooker her and then cranked on it till one side of the boat ws lifted off the trailer, then climbed in the boat

jumped a couple time and then pryed on it just a little a bit and she gave way! good feeling!

Now I just need to get the rest of the dash out...

felt like progress today and thats good!


also went to west marine (had to) picked up a new trailer jack, it made the boat 100% easier to move it.
The old ones bearings were shot and the wheel would not rotate.

on ward and upward

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Great, transom's out! And it looks to be in good enough shape to be used as a template

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Good going. I tdoes look like a pattern.

 

[Bwana Don]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

That much more since it came from grandpa. I'm all about chopping boats to suit the need but I couldn't do it to this one, just a respect thing I suppose

Yep I'm with you on this. Bring Gramps boat back to it's former glory. Maybe even a little better than she was.

I've been following you're rebuild. Just popped in to say hi.

Good luck.
Don

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

thanks don. Im not as informative as the others, I have a decent start. Just going to let the storm pass, then next weekend I will
finish removing the windshield and dash, then button her up for the winter.

I have the motor in the basement. my salvaged pieces ready for templates, the aluminum pieces stored for now and the the rest of
it was hauled to the dump.

Just need to now finish the basement (almost done) and the basement bathroom ( not almost done)

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Is this a good deal?

Champlain has a bad case of zebra mussels, so I will need anti fouling paint for the bottom of her.

I plan on mooring her eventually.

Interlux Micron CSC Antifouling Boat Bottom Paint from Wholesale Marine

 

[jasoutside]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Hmmm, I'm thinking bottom paint (copper n such) is not such a good idea for an alum boat. Maybe a paint pro type guy can chime in if I'm wrong on that.

 

[jigngrub]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Is this a good deal?

Champlain has a bad case of zebra mussels, so I will need anti fouling paint for the bottom of her.

I plan on mooring her eventually.

You'll regret moorng your boat, it'll age your boat qicker and undo all the hard work you have put into it.

Trailering your boat and keeping it covered or garaged when not in use will keep it looking new a lot longer and with fewer problems.

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

uh oh-

so your not supposed to use anti fouling paint on tin boats? Do they make anti fouling paint for tin boats?
to be honest I have to do a lot of reading.

Thanks jig- Mooring probably will presents its own issues, but for now, im just trying to clean her up a little bit
and get her out on the lake. She is going to be far from pretty, but she will be functional.

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Some progress made.

I have removed every single piece of hardware from the boat. Except for the stern cleats.

Not to many surprises. Found a LOT of salt from pre 1990 hidden under the dash.

Wind shield came off easy, had to grind a few bolts here and there, but overall pretty easy.

Now trying to figure out how to get it painted. Don't think my garage will hold her.

I emailed the guy with the anchor craft and told him I would give him $300 for everything if he gets to a point where he needs to dump it. So, still hope that I get a little more ponies on the back of the vessel. I just don't think I will be happy with 40HP. Probably going to need some SPEED! Really think the 88 HP V4 will do a nice job.

There is a unbelievable spot across the lake from us, 14 miles away. Would be nice to cruise over and back on nice summer days. Feels like you are on the ocean.

I will need to buy a bunch of new SS screws nuts and bolts. Any suggestions?

the pic is before I actually got everything removed.

 

[jigngrub]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

uh oh-

so your not supposed to use anti fouling paint on tin boats? Do they make anti fouling paint for tin boats?
to be honest I have to do a lot of reading.

Thanks jig- Mooring probably will presents its own issues, but for now, im just trying to clean her up a little bit
and get her out on the lake. She is going to be far from pretty, but she will be functional.

I wasn't talking about the junk that grows on the bottom of the boat while mooring.

I was talking about exposing your boat to the elements, mainly sun and rain.

I do understand you can buy a mooring cover for your boat, but have you priced one of those lately?

I suggest shopping online for your stainless steel hardware, more competition means lower prices. I'll also suggest using aluminum rivets where you can instead of the SS hardware, even when you buy the rivet setting tool with the rivets you still come out cheaper than SS.

 

[laurentide]

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There is a unbelievable spot across the lake from us, 14 miles away. Would be nice to cruise over and back on nice summer days. Feels like you are on the ocean.
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Noblewood/Boquet River? That is an amazing spot, if that's what you're talking about. Well worth the fuel usage and HP upgrade.

 

[iamsaws]

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Well I'm back! One finished basement, one bathroom and one complete rebuild of a screened in porch with a whole new roof and structure.
Sent last night cutting out all my dash pieces as well as the transom. I did the transom when the wife was out of town, needless to say beer was involved and I have some adjustments to make on that. All fixable was smart enough to leave extra wood.

As compared home renovation being stressful I find boat building relaxing. My basic plan is to salvage what I can and then just replace all the rotten wood as close to original as I can. With some adjustments to seating and a few other key set up. This will be a primarily a fishing boat with family boat responsibilities. I'll need it to be able to cross lake Champlain on a 30 mile round trip with some comfort for woman and children. Looking forward to the challenge.


I am just going to use my 40 hp merc until I Find a great deal on a four stroke. I know the motor.

 

[iamsaws]

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Can I use 3/4" wood for outside price on the transom? I think it was 1/2" but would rather use the 3/4"

 

[ezmobee]

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Can I use 3/4" wood for outside price on the transom? I think it was 1/2" but would rather use the 3/4"

I sure wouldn't. In fact I've eliminated that piece of wood from both my restores. In my opinion it serves no real purpose. Newer aluminum boats don't have it. All it does is eventually get compressed by the motor which flares out the edges letting in water. 3/4" would make this even worse. Personally, I'd leave it off. If you must have something there, go with something non-wood like diamond plate or Star Board or something.

 

[iamsaws]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Also, I'm ready to glue the transom together as well. People recommend pl or 3m 5200?

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: Slow Rebuild of Grandfathers 1972 Starcraft Holiday

Titebond III wood Glue will work just fine.