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POINTER94

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Liberals are cute. I laugh out loud at the rationalisation that occurs in the thought process that fails to address the clear and simple question provided to you. What is the democratic plan? Not a difficult question, but like trained seals you can applaud each others ability to avoid the question.<br /><br />None of my posts here have included anything about Monica, or gays, or Kerry's non-service, or Michael Moore or Peace for the world, or WMD's, or governments propensity to buy votes with social programs (democrats favorite), I have addressed your questions with specificity and you have danced like a cheap date.<br /><br />Please feel comfortable with the rhetoric of the liberal propogandists. Tommorrow will be a nice day. <br /><br /><br />Question, name one source you have pointed to. Emotion, popular opinion, and liberal press propoganda, sleep well. Pass the kool-aid.<br /><br />tws, check the facts, the sodimization of alter boys is equal to or less than the sodomization of young boy's in the general public. But morality plays no part in laws. Right? But who are we to legislate morality? What happens in the bedroom is none of our busness, or so I have been told.<br /><br />Laws are based on morality to modify behavior to be say, moral. This is at least the third or fourth time I have asked, what is the liberal solution? Check the history the UN stopped us from finishing the job in Iraq the first time. But oil for food had nothing to do with that decision and Kofi and the boys never profited. Please pass the French fries and the German potato salad. Oh yea, and the happy helmet.
 

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What is Kennedy's, Kerry's, Gore's, Clinton's, Pelosi's, Boxer's, Feingold's, solutions. Coom-by-ya? <br /><br />Clinton is for the war. Kerry has a solution and if we elect him he will implement it? What does that mean? Kennedy, well the name says it all. Pelosi, has nothing at all, zip, zero, nada, Boxer, the mouth is moving but nothing is said, and Feingold wants to tell the enemy our game plan. Anyone else got something going on? Well you are right our war plan should be based on a deranged mother who is an anti-semite, who loves communism.<br /><br />Help me understand. Provide any if there are any, insights and please leave out the hate speech normally associated with the democratic spokesperson. You got your wish, name any leader within the liberal left that has a solution? Anyone. What is the solution? What is the solution? What is the solution? What is the solution? Question asked...
 

BrettNC

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I still have yet to hear a comprehensive answer on any of these questions. I've just chalked it up to the fact that they don't have any feasible solutions. <br /><br />As I've stated before, there may very well be other feasible solutions to the problem. But they do not care about that. Even if I didn't agree to it, I could still respect it. I haven't heard one well thought out, comprehensive solution to the deadly forces that threaten all of us. <br /><br />Solutions do not matter a rat's a-- to them. Only being in power. That's it.
 

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pointer, I understand you are not one to use hatespeech, but I also understand that you know it is not limited to "liberal" spokespersons.<br /><br />I don't believe that an educated intelligent articulate person as yourself would take the position that anyone who would dare criticize a Republican administration must be a liberal democrat. GW is President therefore his poots don't stink. But that's the direction you're pointing toward.<br /><br />In Sadam's Iraq, you wouldn't dare criticize the government. But this isn't Sadam's Iraq.
 

BrettNC

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Great Jtexas. You didn't answer the question. What is the democratic solution? How do we go about accomplishing it?
 

BrettNC

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Or will you dodge it just like you did in your last post.
 

POINTER94

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jtexas,<br /><br />You hit the mark. I hate the fact that men and women are dying and there seems to be little or no direction other than what we have now. We are destined for a protracted involvement in an area of the world that is a powderkeg. But, I find it interesting that there are all those people in the peanut gallery taking shots without alternative solutions. Not just bad ideas, no plan at all. Zero. Name calling and twisting of facts to demonize someone who had the leadership ability to take the war to the enemy. I have been here a long time and there are those who won't even acknoledge that we were attacked and civilians were killed. The Sheehans of the world are pitiful but non-productive and downright supportive of the enemy. Not by word but by action. We were attacked, the democrats agreed with the course of action and when things went less than perfect they turned on the country like Benedict Arnold. Why? For nothing but personal gain. What is their alternative plan? I remain vigilant to hear. They have nothing. Talk about the empty suit. I have asked for days what the plan should be and I got whatever that is listed above. No answers, just whatever that is above. Blame, inuendo, and hand wringing. I <br />would love to hear an alternative to the difficult situation we face in the middle east, as I don't want to see this go on indefinately or the loss of even one life, but there has been absolutely nothing, in fact less than nothing other than the Bush plan offered. Lots of names, no alternative plan, and some deflection techniques that amount to nothing. I am honestly anxious to hear what else we should be doing, but based on the non response to date on the matter, I have to assume that the plan in place is better than the non-plan, finger pointing exercise that has been offered up to this point. <br /><br />As bad as I think things are, I can't imagine with the depth of insight provided by the liberals what situation we would be in if they were in power. In fact it is downright scary.<br /><br />I would entertain the ideas of liberatarians, communists, socialist, heck even nazi's if I thought they had a better idea. As the democrats are the ones taking the most dispicable position possible I look to them to provide direction as they challenge the path we are now on. What we have recieved to date is downright unamerican. Nonsense like we support the troops but not the president. Good greif. How sad we have become. FYI I completely dismiss the nuclear option. In my opinion it is equivalent to surrender. It is like bringing a gun to a knife fight and shows how weak we are that we can't win without turning the planet into a wasteland.
 

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The question stands, what is the alternative plan of action?
 

JasonJ

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Dang, and I was about to say "nuke 'em"....(BTW, the nuke seemed to fix that pesky Japan problem we were having a while back, or maybe I am wrong)I am not a big Bush fan now (I did support him for his 1st election-the thought of Gore scared the hoozits out of me), but I don't see that sitting here and bashing him is going to accomplish anything. The veteran in me always supports whoever the Commander In Chief is, the citizen in me gets to decide who I support. <br /><br />What good has Bush done? What good does any Prez do? If 9/11 never happened, whould we be in the economic situation we are in right now? I am still trying to figure out what our economic situation is. Yeah, the gas prices suck, but I am earning a bit more money, my bills are getting paid, I am living an okay life. Interest rates are low, people are buying houses right and left. The economic growth we are seeing is actually due to people getting into more debt by using the ever increasingly easy to get credit. But the core question is are we better off than we were before Bush? We are fighting a war that was brought on by a foreign society that hates us, and it is not Bush, Clinton, or any other presidents fault. It is the fault of those who hate us.<br /><br /> I will never believe that Iraq was a good idea, we are being spread too thin and being left wide open for a more agressive attack with little means to defend ourselves. That is a fact that the war supporters fail to see. Yeehaw, lets kick some Iraq butt, and lets leave the back door open while we do it. It is not logical, but we are in it now and we have to finish it whether we like it or not. Yeah, take it to their backyard, but we left our back gate wide open, it is only a matter of time. Enlistment numbers suck, despite what anyone wants to believe. I havn't seen too many war supporters on this board announce "Guess what guys, I joined the Army" in the Good News forum.<br /><br />Back to the question, what good has Bush done? about the same as any other prez has done. Some love him, some hate him, none of it matters. Whatever...China is going to be the next superpower anyway....
 

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Don't for one second beleive that we don't have the resources to defend out homeland just because we are fighting a war overseas. Our military is much to far advanced to ever let that happen. And you should know better.
 

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Pointer, you arguing with these leftist trolls is like taking candy from a baby. They offer lots of negativism and no facts or constructive answers. You are killing them with logic. When their heros are named Clinton, Gore, Kennedy, Kerry. Dean, Pelosi, Franken, Moore etc. that is just too much for them to overcome. Name calling and rock throwing is about all that is left to fall back on.
 

BrettNC

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I still have yet to hear an alternative plan of action.
 

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Just a couple of points:<br /><br />The army has met or exceeded its quota for June, July, and on track to exceed it for August. Reinlistment rates are through the roof. Moral is high if you ask the troops and not Dan Rather.<br /><br />Stalin stated that an invasion of the American homeland would be inpossible based on the number of guns in the hands of civilians.<br /><br />I have to agree with your assessment of his job performance. Some love some hate, I give him a B-. I am in a generous mood. I think one of the functions of the President is to inspire, and in that arena, I feel he has done a very good job. Things that bother me, include the reduction of overtime pay, change in bankruptcy laws to benefit credit card company's and the boarder policy. But there is still time for him to improve on at least one of these issues. Just a couple of freebee's for those who need additional reasons to dislike GW.
 

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Still waiting for the alternative plan...........................?
 

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Another big problem is border control. I haven't seen him address that worth a damn.<br /><br />If some of these liberals would learn to prioritize and distinguish between what Bush is doing right and wrong then they'd at least have something. But they can't even do that.<br /><br />I still haven't heard any answers to the questions above.
 

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Brett, I do know better, I sort of kinda did it for a couple of years. It is more true that an invading force would get the honor of not only dealing with what military we do have, but also our law enforcement (of whom is filled with veterans), and our citizens. Heck, even our street gangs would doal out an arsewhoopin'. Our sheer landmass is what is keeping us relatively safe, we are just too big, but make no mistake, we don't have enough troops on our own soil. Thank God for hunters....
 
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