Need help with transom repair w/pics

[Woodonglass]

Re: Need help with transom repair w/pics

Take em off in the morning and start filleting that thing in and get ready for tabbing and the 1708!!!!

Good Job!!!!

 

[Jon Sob]

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Do I need to sand anything or just fillet all the way around?

 

[Woodonglass]

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fillet all the way round then a light sanding with 60 grit before tabbing to the hull, and then laying the layers of 1708

 

[Jon Sob]

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Took the clamps off and got the fillets in around the transom and tabbed in with 1708. Ran out of time so 2moro I will finish with a layer of 1708 over the whole thing. I sure like the way that 1708 lays down it is a lot easier than that csm. I used a stiff chip brush ( thanks for the idea Friscoboater ) and it seemed to work all the bubbles out without a problem.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Put the final layer of 1708 over the transom and it went on great. Now I just have to cut out the hole for the drain tube. I am going to try to use a hole saw but I am not sure it is deep enough to cut all the way thru. Next I am going to flip the boat over and clean up the hull and paint it. It looks like someone painted the boat before so do I have to strip the old paint off or just sand it and primer it?

 

[oops!]

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use a spade type drill bit on the transom hole.....

and if the old paint isnt chipping off......scuff and paint.......if its flaking off.......it has to come off

 

[Cadwelder]

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Put the final layer of 1708 over the transom and it went on great. Now I just have to cut out the hole for the drain tube. I am going to try to use a hole saw but I am not sure it is deep enough to cut all the way thru. Next I am going to flip the boat over and clean up the hull and paint it. It looks like someone painted the boat before so do I have to strip the old paint off or just sand it and primer it?

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You can go as deep as you want with a hole saw, you just have to remove the plug in the center as you go....if you use the spade bit, you'll have much less splintering if you drill till the tip comes thru, then drill from the other side. .02 there.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Thanks oops ... I didn't think about those bits and thanks CW for the tip on drilling both sides.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Well, today I went out and tossed a rope up and over a tree limb in the back yard and attached one end to my lawn tractor. I hooked the other end to the front of the boat and started driving until the front of the boat was up in the air. I slowly pulled the trailer out from under the boat and set the stern down on the ground. I grabbed one corner of the stern and rolled it over. I had made some brackets out of 2x4's and set them on the trailer. (you can see them in the photo) we then lifted the back of the boat off the ground (only a 12' boat with nothing in it) and had my father (He has been helping with the project) roll the trailer under it and that was it ..... she was flipped. Went a little easier than I thought.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Now that she is flipped I have a few questions. On the underside of the cap is a substance that looks like plaster. I am going to have to repair a few spots of this stuff but I don't know what to use. And second, I have a few spots on the hull that need repaired. A couple spots that were old repairs that are bad and a few spots that have cracks. Do I sand it down to fresh glass and then fill with PB or CSM or what is the proper way? I have read different threads that use different methods. I also would like to know what kind of paint to get for the hull. I have a friend that has a body shop and he is going to spray it but I need to get the paint. The boat will not be in the water for more than 2 days at a time.

 

[Woodonglass]

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Check out page#10 in my resto thread and see how I painted my hull with Pettit EasyPoxy with Hardener. It turned out great. Cost less than $100 bucks. But if I had it to do over I'd just use plain ole' Rustoleum with the Hardener. I did for the topside and it turned out great. Hard as nails.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Well, after flipping the boat I started to sand the hull and I found a couple of old patches on the keel that didn't look good so I started to grind them out and to my surprise ..... the keel appeared to be hollow. After grinding out the second one I can see what looked very familiar to me ( I saw the same stuff in my transom ) and that was the mushy and rotted wood that used to be my keel. So after seeking advise from an expert ( Woodonglass ) I cut the top off and cleaned out all the mush.

 

[rrumba]

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good thing you flipped it. i would have never thought about checking there, now i will have to go check mine...... good job finding it now though.

 

[Jon Sob]

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If it wasn't for that old patch looking so nasty I probably would have never checked it. I have metal stringers in the boat and they are bolted thru the keel and as you can see in the pic, there wasn't very much holdng them in place. In fact a couple of the bolts were just corroded away.

 

[Cadwelder]

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Is that a rotted wood keel, I'm seeing? The metal you're talking about was bolted thru to this "missing" wood?

This is a bit odd.

I'm seeing a good bit of grinding and shaping a new piece of wood and glassing it back in?

 

[Jon Sob]

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Yes CW ....that is a rotted keel that you are looking at and the aluminum stringers were bolted to what I thought was the hull of the boat but after I dug out all that rot I found that there were carriage bolts thru the keel into the hull and bolted to the stringers. I had no clue, this being my first boat, that there was wood encased in the fiberglass on the bottom of the hull until I ground out the old patches.

You can see where the metal stringer is bolted down.


New peice of fir routed and cut to size by the lumber yard all for $2.66

 

[Jon Sob]

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Question for you fiberglass experts out there. Here is a photo of the fir that I am using to replace my keel. It is about 1 1/2" wide and about an 1" thick and 11' long. This is close to what the original one measured. My question is: Can I mix some poly resin with 1/4" fibers and coat this piece of wood to seal it or do I have to try and wrap it with csm? It is such a narrow piece that I think it would be hard to wrap it. I am going to glue it in place with PL or 5200 and then fillet with PB and re-glass the hull.

 

[Cadwelder]

Re: Need help with transom repair w/pics

Question for you fiberglass experts out there. Here is a photo of the fir that I am using to replace my keel. It is about 1 1/2" wide and about an 1" thick and 11' long. This is close to what the original one measured. My question is: Can I mix some poly resin with 1/4" fibers and coat this piece of wood to seal it or do I have to try and wrap it with csm? It is such a narrow piece that I think it would be hard to wrap it. I am going to glue it in place with PL or 5200 and then fillet with PB and re-glass the hull.

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Make sure you grind the surface good (that your fir is matting too) and bed it with Oops super duper peanut butter mix. Let than cure out and start the external glassing.

 

[Woodonglass]

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I'd glue it with Gorilla Glue. Then lam it with Poly and mat and 1708, mat, 1708, and then finish with two layers of mat.

 

[Jon Sob]

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Do I have to let the layers dry completely and sand or can I just wait till it is tacky and then add another layer?