My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

[Watermann]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

:clap2: :bolt:

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

I'm REALLY enjoying watching you bring Franken-boat back to life...

One rivet at a time eh Patrick? :lol:

Chop, Chop! Set 'em while you can, BF. Take her out to dinner this evening, you owe her big time!

Don't let the moment slip away, get her help before she realizes what she has agreed to.

:clap2: :bolt:

Man guys, it was a close call.

There was the, "I have to run to Target, I'll be right back..."

90-min later, there was, "I better get dinner started..."

She eventually got tired of me standing at the top of the basement stairs holding a pair of ear-plugs

Jenn worked the gun for the bow-deck angle rivets:


then the line-in-the-sand was drawn..."I am not crawling under your boat with a rivet gun...and that stuff (referring to 5200)!"

So she took the bucking bar for the SB bow-rib (a very challenging piece to cut one's teeth on!):


^^^ not too shabby! (QC came through afterwards and only had to remove 2)

The tube of 5200 got very little use...it's slow cure so I put it in the fridge hoping to get another week or 2 out of it.

Thanks for stoppin' by!

 

[astor]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

That's awesome you were able to get her to help. It's coming along!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Good on ya man, my wife would have never even bothered with me and my ugly boat. She would have said "I need to run to Target" never to be seen again.

Yah, yur regular cure 5200 will last a super long time, so no sweat there.

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

That's awesome you were able to get her to help. It's coming along!

Good on ya man, my wife would have never even bothered with me and my ugly boat. She would have said "I need to run to Target" never to be seen again.

Yah, yur regular cure 5200 will last a super long time, so no sweat there.

thanks guys!

That's good with the 5200... since we're not not going to get any marathon rivet sessions in....

....aaaaaand the Admiral woke-up with a fever this morning... :facepalm:

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

thanks guys!

That's good with the 5200... since we're not not going to get any marathon rivet sessions in....

....aaaaaand the Admiral woke-up with a fever this morning... :facepalm:

Is it Tin Fever? That's not too bad. I'm guessing you didn't get past this "I am not crawling under your boat with a rivet gun...and that stuff (referring to 5200)!"

Are you getting close to finishing the rivet work? You must be running out of holes to fill.

 

[Watermann]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Tough to get 5200 out of the tube being fridge temp, I've had it stay good for a long time by using a screw in the hole and wrapping with tape.

Target is bad for ones health...

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Is it Tin Fever? That's not too bad. I'm guessing you didn't get past this "I am not crawling under your boat with a rivet gun...and that stuff (referring to 5200)!"

Are you getting close to finishing the rivet work? You must be running out of holes to fill.

Everything being relative, yeah...I'm 80% complete

Remaining rivet count: ~ 135

• Bow (ribs/patches): 35
• SB Rib end, interior patch, random bad rivets: 40
• Transom skin, seam & knee brace: ~ 60

Tough to get 5200 out of the tube being fridge temp, I've had it stay good for a long time by using a screw in the hole and wrapping with tape.

Target is bad for ones health...

Thanks for the tip! I pulled/cleaned the nozzle & sealed the tip with a piece of nitrile glove. It's not the end of the world if this tube goes belly-up. local box store has it for $11 a tube...both fast & regular cure. :thumb:

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Question: how many 1" 4x8 panels of foam insulation do you suppose I need for a boat my size?

I won't be installing a ski-locker...and I like the way Astor laid them out on-edge...except I may go fore/aft rather than port/starboard.

:hat: I have a friend that might have an angle on some construction-site scraps

 

[astor]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

I would put as much in as possible, and put as much as high up as possible. and most of it towards the rear. Sounds pretty simple.

I guess the idea is you don't necessarily want the swamped boat floating inverted, or bow up. Level floatation is desired, so ensure you pack under the gunwales, and as much as you can fit up under the rear and sides of the splash well.

obviously in the first picture you won't spill your beer and can keep fishing till help arrives. and the other, well......this just sucks

But floating inverted is still better than sinking to the bottom.

each sheet 1" 4'x8' is 2.67 cubic feet and fresh water is like 62.4lbs/ft^3. so each sheet will displace roughly 160lbs of water. Very simplified method but should give you a good idea of how many sheets you need to displace an amount of water equal to the weight of your boat and motor.

 

[astor]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Also I would go fore/aft with the foam if I were to do it over again. I did the foam adjacent to the fuel tank fore /aft. I cut the pieces on the table saw with an angle that matched the hull, and used an oscillating spindle sander with 60 grit spindle to carve out the cavities for the ribs.

 

[Watermann]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Question: how many 1" 4x8 panels of foam insulation do you suppose I need for a boat my size?

I won't be installing a ski-locker...and I like the way Astor laid them out on-edge...except I may go fore/aft rather than port/starboard.

:hat: I have a friend that might have an angle on some construction-site scraps

I had to use 3 of the 2" sheets for my 16'er so you may have to almost triple that in the 1".

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

I would put as much in as possible, and put as much as high up as possible. and most of it towards the rear. Sounds pretty simple.

I guess the idea is you don't necessarily want the swamped boat floating inverted, or bow up. Level floatation is desired, so ensure you pack under the gunwales, and as much as you can fit up under the rear and sides of the splash well.

obviously in the first picture you won't spill your beer and can keep fishing till help arrives. and the other, well......this just sucks

But floating inverted is still better than sinking to the bottom.

each sheet 1" 4'x8' is 2.67 cubic feet and fresh water is like 62.4lbs/ft^3. so each sheet will displace roughly 160lbs of water. Very simplified method but should give you a good idea of how many sheets you need to displace an amount of water equal to the weight of your boat and motor.

Also I would go fore/aft with the foam if I were to do it over again. I did the foam adjacent to the fuel tank fore /aft. I cut the pieces on the table saw with an angle that matched the hull, and used an oscillating spindle sander with 60 grit spindle to carve out the cavities for the ribs.

Yours is one of the tightest foam jobs out there; Top-notch! Thanks for the tips on cutting/shaping!

I had to use 3 of the 2" sheets for my 16'er so you may have to almost triple that in the 1".

Thanks Agua! I'll be stuffing foam everywhere...so 9-sheets minimum :madgrin:

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

I also put foam behind the side panels in my 16 footer. Took a little over a full sheet, She may go down, but it will take a while.

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

With the Admiral's newly acquired riveting SKILZ...I was expecting to make some major strides this week.

That was until I got sick & burned-up the sprocket on my '72 Sears Single-stage snowthrower. :mad2:

Well...if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't have stumbled on the SBF (Snow Blower Forum)!

So to hold me over until I get Lil' Red (aka Lil' *****kicker) restored, I found a big old 8/24Toro on CL that I'm picking-up next weekend!

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continued...

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Between a brief obsession with snowblowers, work and illness, I did manage to fit-in some tin-time.

Mostly cosmetic however progress-is-progress.

All of that hammerin' forming that spray-rail patch knocked my JB-weld fillers out:


I drilled several holes in the damage, covered the exterior with frog-tape, formed an interior flashing patch & gobbed-it-up with JB. The holes ensure that the JB squishes-out and covers both sides of the patch...the frog-tape serves as a form:


Frogtape removed:

^^all ready for the patch that we made last weekend.

One of the good things about my Hull, there are relatively small # of holes in the gunwale caps...about 20 or so on the SB side which I also finished. Cleaned, sanded, acetone-wiped both sides of the hole as well as the flashing-backers that are taped-in-place:


hit it with the gator disk after a few days of curing:


Thanks for stoppin' by! :yo:

 

[Watermann]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Oh man the trials and tribulations of tin repairs!

Wow only 20 holes! I would have keeled for only 20 per side. I have a bunch of spots all over my Chief that looks just like those. Seems no matter how much I sand or don't they never seem to look perfect after I shoot primer and paint on them. I would make a horrible body and fender man.

 

[barato2]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

i'll take fixing gunwale-top holes any day over the major structural stuff you're having to do. "Bluefin, Bane of the Tin Boat Knackers" strikes again! not gonna make glue or Keystone cans out of THIS one, nosirree.:clap2:

 

[classiccat]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

Oh man the trials and tribulations of tin repairs!

Wow only 20 holes! I would have keeled for only 20 per side. I have a bunch of spots all over my Chief that looks just like those. Seems no matter how much I sand or don't they never seem to look perfect after I shoot primer and paint on them. I would make a horrible body and fender man.

Yep, only ~ 40 total holes in the gunwale caps... the PO put more holes below the waterline than above :facepalm:

i'll take fixing gunwale-top holes any day over the major structural stuff you're having to do. "Bluefin, Bane of the Tin Boat Knackers" strikes again! not gonna make glue or Keystone cans out of THIS one, nosirree.:clap2:

No doubt Bruce! The admiral and I were both sick last week...so this low-impact stuff was just what the doctor ordered

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: My First StarCraft; 1975 18' SuperSport

You may want to touch base w/ Alcoa, see if they still honor Reynolds Aluminum claims....

Glad to hear you & the Admiral are feeling better this week.