kerry's the best choice

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bush came to office without a mandate.. an he lost the popular vote in 2000.. <br /><br />he insisted he was a 'uniter not a divider'..<br /><br />today the country is more divided than anytime since the cival war.. because of bush's relentless drive to impose his narrowly conieved right wing ways on the country..<br /><br />he failed to listen to his foreign advisor colin powell ( who'd i vote for anyday ) ..instead bowed to war mongers rumsfed an cheney..<br /><br />the pres did what thought was best an turned back on sound advise an stormed into war unprepared..<br /><br />as per reagan ,, " are you better off today than you were 4 years ago "..??<br />the answer gotta be 'NO'..unless you among the wealthiest..<br /><br />bush & repubs who control congress ,,passed tax cuts that favor corporate an not real people.. thier 'trickle down ' therory is woeful..<br /><br />more jobs has been lost since the depression..<br /><br />congress with the pres's blessings has weaken enviromental laws that came from nixon's time..<br /><br />women should have choice..<br /><br />steady gov'n spending ( an ain't no stoppin') along with a bad tax cut ,, took a budget surplus an tranformed it into an ENORMUS deficit..an nat'l debt.<br /><br />always thought repubs were for less spending an less gov'n..<br /><br />as i said at the top .. 'bush came in without a mandate.. '<br /><br />actually he did .. two things an two things only..<br /><br />this bush is gonna cut taxes.. come heck or high water.. ( not like my daddy which cost 'em the election ) this bush is gonna cut taxes.. an i'm gonna get that 'SAND SOB'.. come heck or high water,, i'm gonna get that SOB over there.. <br /><br />he done did his two things... now its time for hm to go..
 

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I'll take Bush over a traitor to my country any day.<br />God Bless America.
 

snapperbait

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It's falling on deaf ears, Crabby....<br /><br />Interesting that you brought up Colin Powell... I got this stinkin suspition that if Cheney/Bush make it into office this go-round, I betcha they relieve Colin Powell of his duties....<br /><br />Can't wait for Colins Book..... :D
 

BLU LUNCH

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IT SURE BEATS THE WOODEN INDIAN WE HAVE FOR THE NEXT TWO DAYS......
 

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Gimme a break crab bait.<br /><br />There is no one, NO ONE, that is voting FOR Kerry. He is PATHETIC. His policies and ideas about everything sound excatly like Bush's. He has less integrity than Bush and waffles on everything. Everyone in the democratic party winces when he takes the stage. He was the sacaficial lamb. In my opnion, if Gore had ran, he would have won.<br /><br />If Kerry wins, it will be because people voted against Bush, not for Kerry.<br /><br />Ken
 

rodbolt

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hello<br /> I still cant see why Kerry is called a traitor. he was called, served honerably won some impressive medals but when released he protested a war that history has proven was a corperate toy test. the rich went to college, the connected joined the guard, and the rest went to the jungles. seems one of the connected ones could not even show up for service, I bet if I had just walked off the ship and said hey I got things to do, the outcome would have been a bit different. I dont agree with flag burning and some of the so called art or freedom of speech issues but I did sign a small unimportant piece of paper that said I would give my life to protect your right to non-violent protests. Kerry served honorably, I was watching some of the vidieos taken during his service. not spectacular but he was there when the country asked. after his service he had every right to protest and a patriotic duty to protest if he saw something terribly wrong, however unpopular. so if someone can enlighten me as to who the traitor is I would appreciate a well thought reply.on one hand we have someone who served honerably then protested and on the other we have daddy congressman's boy that skipped out. I am having some difficulty seeing who is the traitor.<br /> good luck and keep posting
 

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This is the last political thread I am going to post in.<br />I am glad that it(election) will be over in 2 days.<br />Everyone wants to talk about President Bush and how he has hurt the little guy.<br /><br />I am a business owner and have to say that my business has not suffered any and by the looks of things, America is spending money on something.<br /><br />I see this, every day, by the amount of checks that I haul to the processing facility. Lots of checks, not only from businesses, but from regular joe's like you and I.<br /><br />Another thing is that Kerry scares me.<br />The way he talks, he wants to start pulling our troops out of harms way ASAP. That my friends would be a huge mistake and just open the doors for more attacks, here in our country. IMO.<br /><br />Another thing, he is for abortion, I know, another touchy subject, but I can not see killing and innocent child for no reason other than the "mom" don't want/can't afford it.<br /><br />This partial birth abortion thing really bothers me and he voted 6 times to keep it a law.<br />Not only that, but the abortion people that perform these acts, have paid into his campaign fund. Now we understand why he wants to keep it a law.<br /><br />I know, a lot of people pay into these funds on both sides of the isle, but this one really sticks to me.<br /><br />Ok, I'm done so let me have it.<br />Like I said, this is the last one for me.<br />As 12'er said, he(Kerry) was a traitor then and he still is today.<br />Be afraid America, be very afraid.
 

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bush came to office without a mandate.. WRONG<br /><br />an he lost the popular vote in 2000.. WRONG<br /><br />he insisted he was a 'uniter not a divider'.. DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS THE DIVIDER<br /><br />today the country is more divided than anytime since the cival war.. because of bush's relentless drive to impose his narrowly conieved right wing ways on the country.. WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DIVIDED ON????<br /><br />he failed to listen to his foreign advisor colin powell ( who'd i vote for anyday ) ..instead bowed to war mongers rumsfed an cheney..A YEAR AGO EVERY DEMOCRAT SAID YES TO WAR IN IRAQ<br /><br />the pres did what thought was best an turned back on sound advise an stormed into war unprepared..HOW WAS HE UNPREPARED?????<br /><br />as per reagan ,, " are you better off today than you were 4 years ago "..??<br />the answer gotta be 'NO'..unless you among the wealthiest.. I AINT RICH AT ALL AND I AM BETTER OFF<br /><br />bush & repubs who control congress ,,passed tax cuts that favor corporate an not real people.. thier 'trickle down ' therory is woeful..TRICKLE DOWN WORKS BETTER THAN "REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH"<br /><br />more jobs has been lost since the depression..THERE IS A WAR GOING ON, ECONOMIES TAKE YEARS TO REACT, CLINTON DID THIS<br /><br />congress with the pres's blessings has weaken enviromental laws that came from nixon's time..BETTER LAWS FOR STRONGER ECONOMY<br /><br />women should have choice..FETUSES SHOULD HAVE A CHOICE TOO<br /><br />steady gov'n spending ( an ain't no stoppin') along with a bad tax cut ,, took a budget surplus an tranformed it into an ENORMUS deficit..an nat'l debt. ITS A WAR AND ECONOMY MORE IMPORTANT THAN DEFICIT<br /><br />always thought repubs were for less spending an less gov'n..WAR TIME!<br /><br />as i said at the top .. 'bush came in without a mandate.. '<br /><br />actually he did .. two things an two things only..<br /><br />this bush is gonna cut taxes.. come heck or high water.. ( not like my daddy which cost 'em the election ) this bush is gonna cut taxes.. an i'm gonna get that 'SAND SOB'.. come heck or high water,, i'm gonna get that SOB over there.. <br /><br />he done did his two things... now its time for hm to go.. <br /><br />GIMMIE A BREAK!!!<br /><br />Ken
 

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Crab, at least you are one of the few of us here that actually see what is happening. In two days I will cast my vote, and we will see what happens. I do feel that the election result will surprise a lot of people. With the record number of newly registered voters, 60 percent of whom are ages 18-25 (interesting that that age group is also the draft target group), I think that the Bush camp will find the end result to be more startling than they think it will. The polls are irrelevant, you talk to every day people like I do, you get a very different picture. I have dealt with hundreds of customers, most of which are in the upper income bracket, and they always end up venting their political frustration in my presence. I would say maybe one in 20 of these people were for the prez, the rest feel it is time for change. If the money people are saying it, you can imagine what the lower class people are thinking. And that 18-25 age group, like my niece and nephew, it does not take rocket science to figure out who they are voting for. I wouldn't vote for someone who could send me to die for no good reason if I was that age now. My better half is 100 % republican and she will probably go down the Kerry trail, largely because of the presidents ideolical belief system and his apparant intolerance to anything outside of that belief system. I am all for having a religous base, but it cannot ever influence the decision making of the leader of the free world, ever. His decisions must be unbiased, and for the good of the people, not just good for the people that agree with him. Will Kerry do a better job? Hard to say, but there is a massive amount of people in this country who are more than willing to find out. Also, just remember, very, very few republican presidents ever do two terms. Not sure why that is, but that says something.<br /><br />The thing I have found so interesting is how emotional, almost feverish the Bush supporters have been over all of this. It is fascinating. Just at the mere mention of the possibility that they will lose their prez, they become rabid, nasty, fervantly incoherant at times. C'mon, hes just a man, like everyone else, he isn't Jesus Our Savior. He was unfortunate enough to be the prez when planes started flying into buildings. I said it once and I'll say it again. If it wasn't for 9/11, he would have passed through his presidency as a forgettable face, just another nobody like so many past presidents that no one remembers the name of. I'll tell you what, no one will forget him now, will they?
 

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Fear not! W'04. You're are correct, JasonJ, he is not our Savior, he's just not a whining, lying, flip-flopping, appeasing, pandering Socialist. In short, Kerry just does not have the kind of personal character that you would want in a friend. And iffin I wouldn't let him sit at my dinner table, I sure as h*ll would not want him as my president.
 

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The founding fathers had a belief system that they wrote into our founding documents. It was good enough for them. It is good enough for me. Don't believe it? Read the constitution.<br />Kerry a traitor? You bet he is. He aided an enemy by speaking against our troops. And all of his speaches were lies. It is unknown how many lives he cost. He is in the North Vietnamese war hall of fame for petes sake along with Hanoi Jane.<br />I do not see having rice embedded in ones rear end by doing a stupid stunt makes one eligible for a purple heart. Four months in service. Come on. Kerry will not even release his service release papers. Why not? Something to hide?<br />A vote for Kerry is a vote against Bush. Kerry has no ideas, no plans. Just ask him. He will tell you whatever you want to hear. His only belief system is squarely in the hands of the UN and a world court he wants to sponsor. Talk about scary. His VP will make our already broken court system into a shambles. Lawsuits 'R' Us will be the only business that can survive it. Oh that's right business is bad. Silly me.<br />Bin Laden wants Kerry to win. He knows he will be off the most wanted list with Kerry in the white house. Heck, Kerry may invite him for tea with Tereeeeeeeza along with Yasir Arafat. There is a another scary thought. Tereeeeeza.<br />The abortion issue. It is real. We have the blood of over 40 million on our hands all in the name of convenience. That sickens me. What happened to self responsibility?<br /><br />Voter fraud in this election may be enough to turn it. <br />Bush is a leader Kerry will be a ruler. Kerry is a pompous arrogant elitist.
 

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Whoopsie, one more time.<br /><br />1730V, you are wasting your breath.<br />They have the blinders on and won't take them off.<br /><br />You are right, the people that vote for Kerry, aren't voting for Kerry, they are just voting against a Republican.
 

1730V

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SBN, Ya I know. I just could not help it. Blind leading blind. :(
 

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The causes of the recession and of the war were around during the Clinton years and were ignored.<br /><br />Bush did something about both.<br /><br />The country was more divided in the 60s, and the liberal left caused that division, too.<br /><br />I am not a corporation, I am not rich. I pay lower taxes. This notion that the tax cuts only benefit the rich is pure myth. When corporations pay lower taxes they can hire more employees and make better profits for the huge population of we smallholding stockholders that depend on our investments for small income to supplement our SS.<br /><br />Kerry betrayed his country and his brothers in arms and gave aid and comfort to the enemy all in pursuit of political power. Benedict Arnold was a war hero, too. . . . until he became a traitor.<br /><br />It's a no-brainer to me.
 

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Originally posted by snapperbait:<br /> It's falling on deaf ears, Crabby. :D
Yes. Yes it is.<br /><br />
Originally posted by SBN:<br /> You are right, the people that vote for Kerry, aren't voting for Kerry, they are just voting against a Republican.
Just as I vote against a traitor and a trial lawyer. :D <br />Kerry is toast on tuesday.
 

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Originally posted by JB:<br /> This notion that the tax cuts only benefit the rich is pure myth.
You cut them too much slack, JB. It is not a myth, it is one of many deceitful lies, that the Democrats use to divide this country. They have both artfully and subtley attempted to divide this country by every catagory. Poor against well to do, black against white, everyone else against Christians, young against old. <br /><br />They keep hammering and hammering these themes all the while accusing the Republicans of being being the devisive ones. These are tactics straight from Lenin and Marx.
 

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Kerry is the best choice because...... Bush this Bush that Bush Bush Bush????????????? Some real deep thinkin there fellas. Here I'll help.<br /><br />Kerry is the best choice because......<br /><br />He will try to turn over our national security to the U.N. (among other things)<br /><br />He will keep partial birth abortion legal.<br /><br />He will pull our troops out of Iraq<br /><br />He will raise the taxes on the wealthy and give it to me<br /><br />He will make the lame walk, the blind see, the fish bite, the sun shine.....<br /><br />He will not let Christ influence his desisions.<br /><br />He will not lie<br /><br />He makes me feeeeeeeel so good<br /><br />He will appoint judges, who whould rather wipe their a$$e$ with the constitution than follow it<br /><br />I am a member of at least one of these groups, animal rights, pro abortion, anti Christion, socialist, pro class warfare, wacko envoiromentalist, anti 2nd amendment, pro pornography, pro homosexuality, feminist, mensa.... and Kerry is my leader.<br /><br />I love pickels<br /><br />Lawyers are the best polititions<br /><br />He is a war hero who is anti war
 

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Does everyone here know what the BEST thing about the great nation we live in is? Everyone has the right to have and voice their own opinion without fear of government oppression. It actually makes me proud to hear someone voicing their opinion, and to see an educated debate on the topics our country and the world are facing. <br />I have my opinions, and my vote will be for Bush. <br />Another of the things that make me proud to be an American is our fighting spirit. AFter 9/11 I heard a few bleeding hearts whining about negotiating and giving the terrorists what they want, but for the most part in the days ands weeks following the attack I saw this country Democrat and republican give up party lines and stand up for one fight. Everyone was in agreement for a short time. Then everyone got into finger pointing and accusing, now it has become a political point.<br />War should never be a political campaign issue. There is business we have that needs to be taken care of, lets get together and take care of it.<br />You that support Kerry, I might try to voice my opinion, but I will never try to oppress your beliefs. I might try to sway you to my opinion, but I will also respect your right to support the candidate of your choice. The important thing is everyone exercise their right to voice their oipinion and vote.
 

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LOL! Bigfun...<br /><br /><br />Yes sirreeee...<br /><br />2 more days and we all get to see Kerry packs his bags and head back to the rock he crawled out of.<br /><br />I'm going to get the popcorn... Cause it's going to be funny watching all the Demon-cats whimper about Kerry's loss!<br /><br />I just don't get it... why doesn't the pro-Kerry folks see what a dirt-bag he is? It's been proved time and again what a liar he is. Duh?<br /><br />I don't care much for Bush either, but at least he has the 'jewels' to get what needs to be done.<br /><br /><br />Too much to list about Kerry and his ideas (well.. lack of anyway...)<br /><br />I'll leave it at that. <br /><br /><br />WWWWW '04<br /><br /><br />H.
 

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Bigfun, that gets my "best post of the year award for 2004"! <br />Those reasons you listed are why most of us are voting the way we are in this one.<br />I can't add to that, and don't know who can. But by alll means, you folks keep adding.
 
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