kerry's the best choice

spratt

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All I can say, is, when you guys are at the polling place, and ready to make your mark, BE ABSOLUTELY SURE that if you are marking for Kerry, it is what you REALLY want for four years for this country and for your family. I promise you, if he were to make it, this country is in for some severe pain. Mark it on the wall. All the political talk aside, Kerry is going to hurt this US of A we love so much.
 

spratt

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Originally posted by JasonJ:<br /> He was unfortunate enough to be the prez when planes started flying into buildings. I said it once and I'll say it again. If it wasn't for 9/11, he would have passed through his presidency as a forgettable face, just another nobody like so many past presidents that no one remembers the name of. I'll tell you what, no one will forget him now, will they?
It scares me nearly to death to think what would have happened if John Kerry were to have been in office when those buildings were hit by planes. Literally scares me...but you know what the real truth is in all this? God will have his way and HIS truth will prevail, no matter which man is in office. The Bible states very clearly that no man has power nor authority unless He allows it!!! I look at it this way, if it is God's Will, Kerry will win...if not, then Bush will win. As I stated once before, God once used a jackass to teach someone, and a rooster another time. He has used arses all through the Bible, in one form or another. I guess Kerry will fulfill the Will of God if he is elected, whether he wwants to realize or admit it or not. If anyone out there is even a little bit aware of the end times prophecies from the Bible, then they will know that this thing is winding up in a hurry and all God's prophecies will be fulfilled soon and He will be coming back for a church that has taken on His name and lived for him. Regardless of who is in the US President's office. That man is just one piece of a world-wide puzzle anyway.<br /><br />So, all of you go ahead and vote for whomever you wish. I already have. But when the dust settles, mark my words...God will have His way with it all in the end anyway.
 

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Crab bait, you are in need of a serious dose of Ex-Lax.<br /><br />John Kerry and the democrats are responsible for the division in the this country. Your side has been spewing hateful crap on the rest of America for the last year and a half, and we are getting sick of it. Your party is morally and intellectually bankrupt to the point that they're going to have to come out of the closet and re-identify themselves for what they really are: a coalition of godless perverts, liars, and charlatans who have never been able to stand on their own feet and make their own way and who resent the rest of us who can.<br /><br />Socialists suck!<br /><br /><br />-dd-
 

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Funny how you right wingers get all teary eyed over aborted fetuses, but the hundreds and thousands of actual fully deveoped humans that get killed in war, children included, seem to be of no consequence. And you would lecture others about hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy? Give me a break! <br /><br />Spratt:<br /><br />This country has been in pretty severe pain for awhile now, and that is likely to continue no matter who gets elected. Bush and Co. have started a series of endless wars based on their PNAC plan, and even if Kerry were elected and even if he DID pull the troops out, the pain will continue for a long time to come. And I don't know where anyone gets the idea that kerry will end the Iraq adventure. I saw him in the debates pretty much say that he will continue on with it, but "smarter" whatever the heck that means. And the REAL pain, that no candidate wants to address, will be peak oil, which even **** Cheney has spoken about when speaking to other oil people. You won't see him or any other republican say it to the public, though. <br /><br />You guys are right, though, that a vote for kerry is really a vote against GW. I haven't heard ANYONE express any real happiness about kerry, even those who support him. But I can say this, pretty much all the arguments for voting for W are based purely on FEAR, and fear alone. And the repubs know that, and all of their electioneering is based solely on that one factor. And a bunch of the posts here on iboats confirm that as well.<br /><br />Interesting that the democrats get all the credit for being hateful dividers. the post here from dogsdad is about as much filled with contempt and hatred for his fellow americans that aren't bush supporters as anything I've ever seen. As long as that kind of thing is OK, I would say that rich, swaggering, simple-minded, lying frat boys suck too, almost as much as socialists do.<br /> :rolleyes:
 

BLU LUNCH

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Talk about dividing the country? What about the pill popping druggie Cheech{Rush} Limblah I am surprised the sponsers have not pulled there dollars from the druggies hand and cancel this trash talking show! Man some one last weekend posted that the democrat's are Nazi's just because we don't agree with what they are saying....Shame on you's.............
 

bubbakat

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Well all I can say is.<br /><br /><br />VOTE BUSH
 

POINTER94

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This has been and interesting read. Some seem to think that by simply writing something makes it true. But a thinking person knows better than to believe rhetoric and generalization and understand that reasonable people can disagree on a given topic, but an educated person knows what treason is. Kerry committed treason, and not just once but several times. That alone should be enough reason for anyone to not vote for him. <br /><br />But we all know that Kerry can fly, and heal all the sick, and is faster than the speed of light, and he really does care. One problem - the man is a socialist. I have accused him of this for months and nobody seems to be able to refute it. Most haven't even tried but those that have can't categorize him in any other way.<br /><br />No Brainer - W<br /><br />Woodrat, you would compare sucking someones brain out of their skull (someone who can't defend themselves) a medical procedure and an act of love and similiar to attacking and eliminating terrorists? How many people do you think Saddam would have killed, raped and maimed through his standing policies, if we had not intervened? You undercut your credability with statements like your opening paragraph. History will not judge our decisions kindly, and this will prove to be one of the most disgusting and barbaric times for nothing more than personal selfishness..
 

woodrat

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> <br />But we all know that Kerry can fly, and heal all the sick, and is faster than the speed of light, and he really does care.
Yes, and only W and **** and Don and Condi can keep us "safe" from "bad guys".<br /><br />"Those who would trade essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." paraphrased from ben franklin, obviously a fringe wacko.
 

POINTER94

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Each tax increase in an infringement on my and everyone's freedom. Having the government dictate how we can raise our children is the ultimate sacrifice of personal freedom, wouldn't you agree?<br /><br />
Talk about dividing the country? What about the pill popping druggie Cheech{Rush} Limblah I am surprised the sponsers have not pulled there dollars from the druggies hand and cancel this trash talking show! Man some one last weekend posted that the democrat's are Nazi's just because we don't agree with what they are saying....Shame on you's.............
Ehhh.....the man is a private citizen. Mike Moore a real bridge builder, please.. Perhaps we should put freedom of expression to the "World Test"
 

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Crab bait.........<br /><br />Cant you give me just one positive reason to vote for Kerry, other than Bush has to go??<br /><br />The last time we had this, we ended up with a peanut farmer as president, and the worst times in my life.
 

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Simply from an economic standpoint, Bush and/or the Republican control over congress must change to slow and stop this outragous deficit spending.... <br /><br />I fear that if this does not change, and republicans are allowed this continued un-controled deficit spending, campaign promises that are being made by both parties to slow and stop this spending will not be kept if one party can't make the other partys campaign promises stick..... (example: clinton's plan to pay down the deficit and republican control congress held him to that plan)
 

woodrat

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Originally posted by POINTER94:<br /> <br /><br />Woodrat, you would compare sucking someones brain out of their skull (someone who can't defend themselves) a medical procedure and an act of love and similiar to attacking and eliminating terrorists? How many people do you think Saddam would have killed, raped and maimed through his standing policies, if we had not intervened? You undercut your credability with statements like your opening paragraph. History will not judge our decisions kindly, and this will prove to be one of the most disgusting and barbaric times for nothing more than personal selfishness..
Gee, given that I've been told several times here that I have no credibility, I'm wondering how much lower I can sink..<br /> :rolleyes: <br /><br />Are you trying to say that we wage war with such precision that NO innocents are killed? I know we don't bother to keep count, but you simply can't tell me that plenty of innocents- including children-are killed every week over there. We write them off as regrettable but necessary costs to our goals. No its not the same as a third trimester abortion, but it is killing just the same. A 500# "precision" bomb has a kill radius of something like 400 feet. Are you telling me that when we drop one of those in a city, we only kill the "bad" guys?<br /><br />And another thing, who says that anyone who fights back when we invade their country is a "terrorist"? Do you really believe that? Sure, by now there are a whole bunch of freelance jihadists who have joined the fight, but obviously there are going to be a bunch of everage iraqis who will resist us because, from their point of view, we INVADED them, deposed their government and our motives are suspect.<br /><br />How many people did saddam kill, rape, gas, torture and maim while we stood idly by for 30 years? Or when we weren't standing "idly" by, but rather actively helping? This war was not about saddanm being a bad guy and we were forced by our consciences to ride in to the rescue to save his subjects from his brutal rule. We were fine with his brutal rule for a long long time, and that is a simple matter of record. We have no moral high ground when it comes to saddam, because we looked the other way or helped him when we thought it served our purposes.<br /><br />As far as abortion goes, many polls have shown that most americans think that it should be safe, legal and RARE. Why does the party of smaller, less intrusive government always seem to be wanting to impose its various "moral" imperatives on the rest of us by fiat?
 

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Abortion-safe, legal and rare. I would hope the same thing for murder. One and the same.<br />We have some collateral casualties true. What were the 3000 people that died at the WTC. Collateral for Al Aqieda?<br />Saddam mercesslesly put people through torture. We sponsored it. Come on, get real.<br />Go back to the discredited alphabet soup of networks to keep getting the news.<br />As far as Limbaugh being a pill popping whatever, at least he had the stones to admit it.<br />I'll take a man that has beat a problem anyday over one who thinks he doesn't have one.
 

crab bait

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the fear factor .. i see the wolves ,, there comming to get us,, HOOOOOWWLL.. <br /><br />only cheney can stop them,, HOOOOOOOOWWLL..<br /><br />if you vote for kerry ,, an there's another terrorist attack ,, don't blame us an we warned you so.. code orange..<br /><br />MEAN PEOPLE SUCK..
 

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Another political "Troll" thread. :confused: <br /><br />I'll give this thread the respect it deserves.<br />Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha :D :D :D .
 

POINTER94

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Rule of war #1: People die.<br /><br />Rule of war #2: You can't change rule #1<br /><br />Abortions kill hundreds of thousands of babies. This can be changed. Abortion is viewed as a means of birth control, otherwise why would we pay for it under the guise of "health care". How can you "abort" a baby legally and 60 seconds later it is called murder? Reasonable people can disagree on an issue, this one just can't be justified. Comparing the death of a terrorist with a lazer guided bomb to the death of a defenseless infant having its brain sucked out stretches common sense farther than I can go.<br /><br />I guess anyone born after Roe V. Wade can truely be defined as a survivor.
 

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Regarding this question:<br /><br />
as per reagan ,, " are you better off today than you were 4 years ago "..??<br />the answer gotta be 'NO'..unless you among the wealthiest..
Well, I am not the wealthiest guy on my block, but my salary has increased over 11,000.00 (without a promotion), my 401K increased about the same, my portfolio has retained its value.<br /><br />And do you know why I am better off now then 4 years ago? Because I work hard and make decisions for myself that affect myself. I don't wait for the government to make things better for me, I make things better for me.<br /><br />If things are worse off for you its because you do a crappy job of managing your life. When you realize that and stop blaming others for your situation, you too will be better off.
 
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