Iraqi Prison Fiasco Revenge

[Boomyal]

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Undoubtedly Bobingardner! But as bad as that and possibly other incidences that may come to light are, you know that Vast Left Wing Conspiracy would try to use it/them to discredit the whole Iraq venture and thereby it's leadership.<br /><br />That of course is udeniably their ultimate goal. When you have a Senator, who got away with manslaughter, leading the pack, how much can one fiqure that the Democrats care one whit for those Iraqi prisoners.<br /><br />And of course, in the mean time, Teddy's dog and pony show continues to give the bad guys hope that we will cut and run, so they just keep killing out boys.<br /><br />When one weakkneed Oregon Republican Senator got caught pinching women on the behind the Democrats got him drummed out of office faster than Teddy's car took to sink to the bottom of Chappaquidic (sp)<br /><br />What does that say for motive. But see, they have you thinking it is a fairplay issue. And that because a few bad apples didn't play fair, the whole program is discredited as well as the evil nation they represent.

 

[POINTER94]

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I heard that too, but what happened was the terrorist a$$ hole ate the dog, put on the collar and posed for pictures... I feel bad for the dog.

 

[bobingardner]

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<br />Boomyal<br />Ensign<br />Member # 31011<br /><br />- posted May 13, 2004 11:09 PMMay 13, 2004 11:09 PM Profile for Boomyal Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote Undoubtedly Bobingardner! But as bad as that and possibly other incidences that may come to light are, you know that Vast Left Wing Conspiracy would try to use it/them to discredit the whole Iraq venture and thereby it's leadership.<br />

Again, I must have missed that meeting. If these guys don't start CC'ing on their memos I'm going to switch sides and join the old republican s club . <br /><br />You guys would take me wouldn't you?

 

[Boomyal]

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Quote Bobingardner:<br /> Again, I must have missed that meeting. If these guys don't start CC'ing on their memos I'm going to switch sides and join the old republican s club . <br /><br />Glad you're gettin your head straight BG, come on over!

 

[bobingardner]

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<br />Boomyal<br />Ensign<br />Member # 31011<br /><br />- posted May 13, 2004 11:24 PMMay 13, 2004 11:24 PM Profile for Boomyal Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote Quote Bobingardner:<br />Again, I must have missed that meeting. If these guys don't start CC'ing on their memos I'm going to switch sides and join the old republican s club .<br /><br />Glad you're gettin your head on straight, come on over! [Cool]<br />

lol

 

[snapperbait]

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Bobingardner.. Beware the power of the dark side...

 

[bobingardner]

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<br />snapperbait<br />Commander<br />Member # 15342<br /><br />- posted May 14, 2004 12:07 AMMay 14, 2004 12:07 AM Profile for snapperbait Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote - Bobingardner.. Beware the power of the dark side...<br />

Should I call the gardner police?<br /><br />I think I will just to be on the safe side.

 

[12Footer]

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Bomb them like so many Dresdens! Iether that, or behead Al Jazeera.He is real butmunch.<br />Chris, don't fret. We will win,in spite of Kerry, Almubad, and Aljazeeeeeeera.<br />Those mutants were right about one thing tho...God is great. <br /><br />Ala ,on the other hand, eats pigs raw to allow his minions to do his bidding on my planet.<br /><br />And Chris, the very fact that Iraq is not coated with a layer of glass allready, is because of what America is. In spite of my personal anger, people like you and Mike Moore, cooler heads will prevail. And I reinterate, WIN!

 

[cmyers_uk]

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12Footer WIN? how do you determine if weve won. What is the objective?

 

[samagee]

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I understood from the very beginning that Nic Berg was over there to make business connections. You can not fault someone for searching a method to make a living/fortune. He was unwise to stay in an area that was that hostile to Americans, and especially to Jews. However, NO ONE deserved that except these extremeist dogs.<br /><br />The berg family needs to stand back and take a look at what they are doing. The father is showing the nieve mentality that we all speak out about. They believe that they don't need guns, because that is what the government is for. In other words they don't feel they need to be responsible for themselves. Nic Berg should have had a security force with him, and he should have kept his wits about him as to the climate changes. The Berg family has no right to start blaming anyone but their son for poor planing. It was a risk, it was played out, it failed. Unfortuneatly it was a fatal failure. None the less, we as Americans have the right to be FULLY ticked off at what these dogs did to an individual exercising his American rights. The pursuit of happiness, and prosperity. He was being responsible for himself and pursueing a chance at a fortune and a life that he would have made for himself. Sometimes our personal sacrifices do not play out the way we would have liked them to. No one can disrespect anyone who stands up and makes something of themselves, rather than sit around with their hand held out.<br /><br />This was a direct attack on us in more ways than one. It is disgusting that people want to down play what happened to Nic Berg and other Americans over there making sacrifices. We all need to resolve this issue with these extremeist now. Everyone needs to focus on the big picture instead of the small pictures of someone being harrased in a prison. These same someones that were ready to die for their beliefs before they were caught.<br /><br />I'll stop my rant now, time to get back to work.

 

[gaugeguy]

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Calling them dogs is way too kind Samagee, they are much worse than that. Nice rant though, thanks for boiling my blood so early in the am.

 

[Carphunter]

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18rabbit, Japan was nuked for many reasons. I agree with you that one of the reasons was to keep the communists out. I believe you stated the overwhelming reason though, all of the American lives that were saved.<br /><br />Thanks for the information. Good post.

 

[11 footer]

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Anyone have a working link to the video?<br /> http://www.thenausea.com/usa-iraq.html <br />------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />

I can't find one, and this link isn't working. Anyone have a link that works?

 

[revertmastec]

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SBN,<br /><br /> I know you were looking for the link for this. I have it but I will not post it in fear of younger people getting it. If you or anyone else would like it shoot me an email. Revertmastec@aol.com. Be warned this is VERY disturbing. I saw it for the first time today and I am outraged all over again.

 

[18rabbit]

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It's started! Here come the details...<br />---<br /><br />Death of Prisoner Detailed in Testimony<br />By Richard A. Serrano<br />Times Staff Writer<br /><br />May 18, 2004<br /><br />WASHINGTON — When CIA officers took the Iraqi detainee to Abu Ghraib prison, his head was covered with an empty sandbag and Army guards were ordered to take him directly to a shower room that served as a makeshift interrogation center at the overcrowded, shell-damaged facility outside Baghdad.<br /><br />An hour later, during intensive questioning by intelligence officers, the prisoner collapsed and died. Only then did interrogators remove the hood to reveal severe head wounds that had not been treated.<br /><br />The dead prisoner, whose identity has not been made public, would become famous around the world through a photograph of a body wrapped in plastic sheeting and packed in ice — among the most indelible images yet made public in the Iraqi prisoner abuse scandal.<br /><br />An account of his final hours, and of the failure to provide medical attention to a severely wounded prisoner, is contained in sworn statements provided to Army investigators by military police guards at Abu Ghraib.<br /><br />After the man died, the documents say, officials argued over who was responsible for the body. Eventually, the body deteriorated to the point that it had to be disposed of.<br /><br />The official documents describing the episode, obtained Monday, were based on testimony at a secret military court hearing last month on the charges against Sgt. Javal S. Davis, one of seven members of the 372nd Military Police Company accused of beating and humiliating Iraqi detainees.<br /><br />---<br /><br /> Read the whole story to get a better idea of how much trouble we are in. As I have stated, I think this is going to galvanize some of the non-violent Islamic faithful into fundamental Islamic wholly warriors.<br /><br /> http://www.latimes.com/news/custom/showcase/la-fg-prison18may18,0,560334,print.story

 

[gaugeguy]

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Stupid kids. I don't think there is much question that these "guards" were very poorly trained and supervised.<br /><br />I still think this story, for what it is, is getting too much ink everyday.

 

[Carphunter]

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Don't you think these "detainee's" were detained for some reason? Wonder what they did to be detained. I have complete faith that our military has detained these people for a good reason.<br /><br />I'm sick and tired of showing sympathy for these "detainee's", while these same people are using WMD's on our troops! <br /><br />I don't agree with treating these detainee's improperly, but personally, I'm a little more worried about our people fighting over there.

 

[SoulWinner]

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Not every German was a Nazi. Not every Japanese was an Imperialist. Not every North Korean is a fat, dumpy, retarded cartoon collector. Not every Iraqi is a Batthist, or Muslim for that matter. Not every North Vietnamese was communist. Not every Afghani is a member of the Talibahn.<br /><br />Mass executions for the whole region visa vi nucyaler (a Bushism I love ) weapons is not an option. Besides, we have to save those for the Chinese The Iraqi's don't deserve it. With terrorists pouring in from all over the place, the US may as well have the INS and the Border Patrol securing the Iraqi borders; however, I think the terrorists are welcomed in Iraq by the US govmt. Better there fighting our military than here killing our civilian population. <br /><br />We should handle the situation like the Israelis did in the past, find the terrorists family, kidnap them, and send pictures to the terrorist via the terrorist communication network. The terrorist turns himself in, voia la! Then, instead of imprisoning him as the Israelis did, very quietly dispose of him/her/it. Or give them sex change operations and sell the into white slavery <br /><br />Either way, brutality is the only to win, not attrition. How the _______ was America liberated from the British Empire? Playing dirty, thats how. Fighting to WIN, that's how. Same with WWII, the only other big difference was that (with the exception of the British sympathizers in the War for Independence) the country was galvanized against the enemy. The political influence of the media is fast destroying the cohesive unity of this country, that quality that made the US a "melting pot", while creating division within the populace. It has long been know and strongly and strategically used by the DNC, that the only way for a party based on socialist ideals to win elections in national races is to "Divide And Conquer." With the mainstream press acting their willing accomplish, this is a most effective use and exertion of their (in truth) feeble power. The way things are ight now in America, our victory in Iraq is costly at best, dubious at worst......<br /><br />Answer? The real targets for immediate extermination are NOT in Iraq.

 

[samagee]

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I agree soulwinner, the attack is happening from with in America.<br /><br />18rabbit, I think they need to find out what that prisoner did to get such a beating before becoming a detainee. <br /><br />I really don't feel any pity for them. If there are innocent detainees in that prison, then the wrong has to be corrected. However, if these clowns are ones making attacks on us then they are going to get ruffed up. If they are stupid enough to provoke someone who hasn't had any sleep in a long while, that's their own tuff luck. Perhaps they should have been a bit more observant on who they decided to tangle with.<br /><br />If these terrorist didn't want us over there kicking their rears, then maybe they should have stayed in their own countries detonating explosives!

 

[mrbscott19]

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Did anyone even watch the video?? it is obviously doctored all to hell. Berg's scream sounds like a womans scream dubbed in, plus the whole time the video is shooting, Berg is still as can be. He doesn't even move when they behead him. Now if I was about to be beheaded, I would sure as hell put up a fight, but Berg didn't. There are many, many more inconsistencies in the video. It's timing was also perfect. What better way to divert attention from the abuse scandal than to show the american people something like that! Shake off the wool, sheeple!