i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Pics coming soon. I got the wood piece glassed to the transom today. I used a wetout table this time to do the layup on then just took the whole piece with me. Very easy way to do it.

Tomorrow I will build the bilge. I think I'll have the deck in by Tuesday.

 

[redfury]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

hmmm... Whatcha thinking triangle man?

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

hmmm... Whatcha thinking triangle man?

I want to add a casting deck as many others have done when redoing this model. Those triangular blocks need to be cut away.

I've just about come full circle with the center console idea. I'd talked myself out of it but it seems to be the one that would work best. If I build it 16" wide I can get around it easy enough. I can use rotary steering since it will work in a smaller space.

I struggling with where the passenger will sit at the moment and how much aft deck I'm going to give my fishing partner. It would be easy to make this a great solo fishing boat (which is what it will be most of the time).


BTW, I built the bilge today at lunch. That should be about cured when I get home. I think I can get the deck installed this evening!

I also drilled the drain. I'll have to finish that with the round side of my wood rasp or dremel since I don't have a bit that big. I stated with a 1/4" bit and worked my way up.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Deck is in!

The deck is glued on with PL Premium like was discussed earlier. I used bricks to clamp it down.

Used a half-round wood rasp and Dremel sandind drum to bring the hole out to size. That took about an hour and I have one more to do when the cap goes back on.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Deck is in. Foam is in. Bricks are safely out. Deck is rock solid and secure. I had exactly enough foam to do the job.

Next is to fill gaps around the perimeter of the deck and basically get it ready to be glassed. I hope a gallon of epoxy will do it. I'm laying mat and then cloth.

I'm debating whether to lay down mat first instead of just cloth. The mat seems to fill irregular surfaces which minimizes bubbles in the cloth layer. We'll see how much resin I have left after all the filling and filleting.

I'll take pics after that step is done as it looks pretty ugly now.

 

[redfury]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Well, if 90% of the time or better, it's just you, then make it the way that works best for just you in the boat. If you decide to take your buddy, just make sure you have a nice 5 gallon pail and a boat cushion for him ( and a grab rail )

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Well, if 90% of the time or better, it's just you, then make it the way that works best for just you in the boat. If you decide to take your buddy, just make sure you have a nice 5 gallon pail and a boat cushion for him ( and a grab rail )

Hehe!

Here's tonight's pics. It was starting to get dark and I was really busting you know what to get this part done. It's going to rain tomorrow and I wanted everything sealed.

Here's the bilge all ready for glass.

Deck edges filled with peanut butter.
** Cut your deck more accurately and you won't have to use so much pb like I did. I didn't think too much about it when cutting. I made sure it had a solid gluing surface under all edges, but knew I could fill the rest. If I had to do this over I would have cut more accurately. I'm wasting epoxy and time. Structurally, it's fine. Just wasteful. Learn from my mistake.:redface:


Next step is to glass this bad boy in and up the sides a bit.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I got the deck glassed in on Sunday. I used mat with cloth on top. It took 5 hours to get it done and about a gallon of epoxy. I ended up with a few pancake sized bubbles that I'll have to cut out and fix. I'm not sure what caused them as they were not there when I cleaned up all my stuff and went in for a nap. Maybe because the sun came out. No big deal, just a little more work to fix. They'll be under the casting deck out of site, but I will still fix them.

Because the class transparent when it's wetted out, it looks like I haven't done anything for the past month. I can take some pics today but it'll probably be hard to tell the difference from before it was glassed in.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

A couple of pics...

Deck is glassed in. Like I said, it's hard to tell. Most of the light colored spots are where I filled the holes for the foam pours. There are a few bubbles like maybe 3 or 4 that need fixing.

Here's on of those bubbles I mentioned. I'll cut it out and fix it. No worries. I have a few like this.

This will need just a little sanding before priming, but it looks a lot better in person than in this pic.

 

[Bob_VT]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

What is that quarter for??? Ballast????

Looking good.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I have a question about the foam as I will be putting in foam next year.

Did you pour in the foam and completly fill all the cracks and such then cut it level and put the deck on?

if you do it like this do you need any drainage holes or are you hoping that no water get in at all?

Thanks Fuzzey

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

What is that quarter for??? Ballast????

Looking good.

Nah, I thought I'd repair those bubbles with quarters. It's cheaper than epoxy.

I have a question about the foam as I will be putting in foam next year.

Did you pour in the foam and completly fill all the cracks and such then cut it level and put the deck on?

if you do it like this do you need any drainage holes or are you hoping that no water get in at all?

Thanks Fuzzey

I thought about doing it the way you mentioned, but foam is expensive and that method would produce a lot of waste.

What I did was drill 1/2" holes with a paddle bit every 12" in each of the 3 cavities. Then I tipped the bow up. I poured foam in stages working my way from stern to bow. I then filled all the holes with thickened epoxy and finally glassed over the entire deck.

I glued the deck down with PL glue. It's not going anywhere, but the foam IS stuck to the deck so I guess you could say it's helping hold the deck on.

If you're going to do foam I think that's the most cost effective way to do it, but it was also very time consuming. Calculate your required volume carefully and pour your foam on a hot day. The hotter it is outside, the more it expands. The more it expands the less you need.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yea that makes sence Im going to do it like that now great idea.
Do you need any drainage holes or are you counting on the foam being totally sealed in. (I have read pretty much all of oops comments+thread on foam)

Thanks Fuzzey

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yea that makes sence Im going to do it like that now great idea.
Do you need any drainage holes or are you counting on the foam being totally sealed in. (I have read pretty much all of oops comments+thread on foam)

Thanks Fuzzey

I'm counting on it being sealed. This is my first restore. I'm trying to put it back like it was originally as best I can. I may live to regret that as well as putting the foam in. I think I can avoid the problems associated with foam by taking care of my boat like I'm supposed to. I may very well learn that isn't enough one day.

I don't really want to tell you what to do in regards to drainage. I'd suggest you start a new thread and see what the pros think.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I'm still kicking around with it. Ran into a little snag but I think I can get past it. I moved the little boat out of the carport today. It's in the back yard with the Scorpion now. Maybe I can get the hull flipped tomorrow.

I may have to take a break soon or work on the Scorpion's engine some. I'm feeling a little burnout coming on.

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yea that makes sence Im going to do it like that now great idea.
Do you need any drainage holes or are you counting on the foam being totally sealed in. (I have read pretty much all of oops comments+thread on foam)

Thanks Fuzzey

If your pour foam @ the right temp and at volumes.... that is it exceed's the required volume and along with expansion holes for escape vent's as 386 has done...........It will expand into any crevases...Foam can expand so forcefully it will blow off a deck or crack a hull....think about that a little...

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Well, the boat is now in the carport but not flipped yet. The new deck is apparently thicker than the old one. This is causing some small fit problems with the cap. It's not major, just more work.

I thought with the cap on it would be stiff enough for me to put it on the ground and roll it over. I don't think that's going to work. So for now I'm kinda scratching my head until I figure out what to do. I don't want to spend a lot of money on wood to build a rolling jig.

 

[nineteensixtycaddy]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

and to think... I thought I was nutz....

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I haven't given up on this one.

It's still in the garage out of the weather. It started getting hot after wife's surgery. I need some help getting her flipped over so I can work on the bottom. I haven't been very motivated to suit up for sanding in this heat. I should work on getting her flipped in case I get the urge to sand on some cool Saturday mornings. The upcoming fall weather should be good for priming/painting so we'll see what happens. It sure would be good to have that done before Winter starts so I could start the finishing/outfitting in the Spring.

Another motivating factor to finish this one is the Scorpion.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Back at er'....

With a chain hoist connected through an eye bolt at the bow and come-along connected through the drain hole at the stern, I was able to flip it by myself. The chain hoist is really nice and much safer IMO. I borrowed them both.

Here she is flipped over and on saw horses in the carport.

The old repair on the bow. Really thick and not very attractive.

Repair has been removed and some filling started.

Behold, the i386 git-er-done narrow sanding block. This is the beta version.