i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

bassboy1

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What is that peice in the last pic? The one that is like a screwy thing on an odd bracket. Seems to be near the coupler on the right side.
 

i386

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bassboy1 said:
What is that peice in the last pic? The one that is like a screwy thing on an odd bracket. Seems to be near the coupler on the right side.

I don't know what you call it. It kinda hinges the trailer frame about halfway. Supposed to be useful for launching without a proper ramp. I've seen them on lots of trailers. I've never seen it used though. I might just take it off and weld it together right there.
 

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that is the tilt lock on for the tongue. they were used and most trailers. you release it when you are at a shallow ramp, this allows you to tilt the bow up wiht the tongue still connected to the tow vehicle., in order to slide the boat off easier, and load easier. we use it a lot, ever try to dry load a 18 footer.
 

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What part of Ga. are you in? Im trying to find a source of good marine plywood. Im in Westminster,SC... cant find any though. Im thinking Altanta might have a place that stocks it...

Last year I fixed up an old Crosby 15ft with a 40hp big-twin, but it was in good shape to begin with, for the most part. With me, a gas can, and a milk-crate to sit on, it did 41mph on the GPS.
I had to move it to the backyard for now to make way for my "new" 30/yo bass boat!

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/k224/A_Fn_NOOB/Ranger/



Also, where are you going to get your resins/fiberglass stuff from?
 

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A said:
What part of Ga. are you in? Im trying to find a source of good marine plywood. Im in Westminster,SC... cant find any though. Im thinking Altanta might have a place that stocks it...

Last year I fixed up an old Crosby 15ft with a 40hp big-twin, but it was in good shape to begin with, for the most part. With me, a gas can, and a milk-crate to sit on, it did 41mph on the GPS.
I had to move it to the backyard for now to make way for my "new" 30/yo bass boat!

http://www.photobucket.com/albums/k224/A_Fn_NOOB/Ranger/



Also, where are you going to get your resins/fiberglass stuff from?


I was gonna bump this up since Mas asked about it in the Evinrude/Johnson forum but now I can kill two birds w/one stone.


I have not even looked for marine plywood yet. I was going to see if my local ACE or Home depot would order it for me. I think I can do the whole project with 2 sheets. I know it can be ordered online but I'll avoid that if possible. There's also a few places near lake Harding/Lick Skillet area that build boats. I might try there too.

For fiberglass cloth, I'm hoping I can grab some of that "slightly irregular" cloth off eBay. So far everything I've ripped out of the boat was either mat or chop gun stuff. The only cloth I've seen in the boat is in the hull. Just about any cloth I could use would be better than the original design.

For resin, I just found out there's a local company (one of my company's customers) that's a supplier of many things including epoxy resin. I can get it from them for a little more than $20/gal. If that doesn't work out, it'll probably have to come from US Composites.

I still need to see if I can get brushes, cups, rollers, etc... locally somewhere.


I sure would like to see some pics of your Crosby!



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So what's the status now? Mostly just thinking and gathering materials. It's too cold to do any glass work and it gets dark quick. I am hoping to start working on the trailer soon. That is something I think I can do over the "Winter". I live in GA so I know a lot of y'all will think it's funny that I call it Winter.


I know I've made a lot of grand plans about modifying this and that but the more I think about it, the more I wonder if I should. At this point I think I should just concentrate on making the repairs and putting it all back together. I should just put the console right back where it was. No paint or gelcoat anywhere. I think I will not glue in the back yet though (if you could see how it was designed you wouldn't think that's as crazy as it sounds). Just get it all back together and get it on the water and see how I like it. I may decide it makes a good runabout for me and the dogs but not such a good fishing boat, who knows. I do believe it's not necessary to do a full restoration before I get it out on the lake though.

My wife's dad bought the boat used and then passed it on to my wife's BNL where it ended up like you saw in my pics. Her dad did tell me that it had some cracks in the floor and some water in the foam when he had it. I expect the boat will be WAY lighter than even when her dad had it when I'm done with it. He did say it was a good riding boat but was hard to get on plane (gee I wonder why).

SO here we are:

Fix trailer
Fix floor and repair any holes/cracks in hull. Make it better than it was.
Glue up and glue in the plywood for the transom.
Join my top-half back together where I sawed it in half. Really wish I hadn't done that. In hindsight I think I could have gotten the top off w/o sawing it.
Put the top-half back on with screws.
Put the motor back on.
Install the original console. Find good used rotary steering system.
Get new control cables.
Outfit boat with all required items.
Test and go from there.


Edit: Forgot to mention the engine.

I think it's going to be fine. The "new" powerhead seems fine. I might end up doing a carb rebuild and replacing the fuel pump. I say that because that's about the only thing that it could need at this point. I'd love to see it restored to look like new, but it's gotta prove itself reliable first.
 

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i386, you ought to see if you can get your hands on some of this. It's pressure treated for rot and it is dry so you can slather it up with an epoxy coating. Ifen any water does get thru, No Bugs Mylady. Check out the Bus Panels. FWIIW, marine plywood has no rot resistance, it just does not have voids and pockets. Same glue as exterior plywood.

http://www.greenwoodproducts.com/moreproducts.htm


You can call them and see if their are any retailers or distributors in your area. I wished I had run across this before I did my floor.
 

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Thanks Boom, I will put that in my bookmarks. But I've been thinking about this a lot today after my earlier post. Anything I decide to use to re-sole this boat is going to be 100% better than the original materials. If sealed properly, any water that gets in there is going to be my fault, not that of the wood I choose.

I think some call it a reality check. It's still a little ol' 15' fiberglass boat with an antique 33hp engine on it. It's going to be fun, rewarding all that. But it's not going to be "the one" that I'm gonna go nuts on. I'll start looking for that one when I'm done. I still wanna build one from scratch.
 

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I found a GREAT lumber company in Suwanee, GA, Suwanee Lumber Co. They stock 1/2, 3/8, 3/4 Douglas Fir marine-grade plywood, and everyone there seemed very friendly. Working with the stuff, the difference is clear why it costs more than regular ply.

If you can get epoxy at $20/gal, I would make stringers out of foam & glass.

Here is a link to what Im talking about:
http://www.classicmako.com/projects/ayala/ayala11.htm

If you did that, you could then just buy 1 piece of plywood to do the deck most likely. Probably 3/8 if you glassed both sides with 4oz or 6oz cloth & epoxy.
 

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Suwanee you say? Well that's 1.5 hours from here. Not too bad. What's the name of the company?

Luckily, due to the design of the hull, I don't have to build stringers at all (see pics). 2 4x8 sheets should do the floor and the wood in the transom.

Got any pics of that Crosby or was that it you just linked? Just curious to see if it's similar to mine.
 

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Just a quick little update so y'all don't think I've given up on my boat.

It's still flipped over on the saw horses. I've been doing a little sanding here and there getting out some bad places and locating where I need to fix from the inside.

I talked to my stepdad about doing the trailer and he's excited about helping me. He's told me where to get my paint, primer, and 00 sand for the sandblaster. He's basically told me as soon as I can get it over there the sooner we can work on it.

I'm taking the week of 12/3 off so I'll probably get it over there by then and we'll work at it as time/materials become available.
 

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A little before and after...

oldtire.jpg


newtire.jpg



Getting the trailer ready to haul over to my parents house for some repairs, sandblasting and painting.

New tires and bearings. One of the dust caps was missing so I asked the guy at the parts house if he had any. He was out of dust caps but had these plastic bearing buddy knock-offs. They were $4 a piece.


I've also got the bunks and other parts stripped off the trailer including the fenders. They were in really bad shape so I'll find some new ones. I might get a new winch too.
 

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Do you have all the sandblast equipment?
 

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Boomyal said:
Do you have all the sandblast equipment?

Yessir...

They have the sandblaster and a very large air compressor. My stepdad also just bought a new MIG welder which I'm looking forward to trying out. There's a few spots on the trailer that need to be repaired and reinforced. I'll need to weld on the new fenders too when I locate those.

We'll probably hold off on the sandblasting so we can do that and paint all in the same day when it's warmer.


BTW Boomy, I ordered the 25 yd. roll of 10oz cloth from our buddy on eBay. I'm not ready to use it yet but I was afraid he'd run out. I can't imagine that not being enough. One of our customers is a supplier to smaller suppliers here in town for body shops. They don't normally sell to the public, but will sell to me. They've got 1 gal epoxy kits that I can get for $20. I hope that'll work out since it'll save a lot of money.
 

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I have not given up! The trailer is sandblasted and painted black. Pics as soon as I get it rigged. :):):)
 

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Well I've been working on the trailer all weekend. I'm sore from head to toe. The trailer has been repaired from where the boat full of water bent it. Some new reinforcements have been welded in. It's been sandblasted and painted black. I spent the weekend rebuilding the bunks and guides. The original pieces were covered in fire hose and carpet. The parts that were covered in green carpet are covered in black carpet this time around to match the trailer. A buddy of mine donated some retired fire hose from the VFD so I was able to cover the parts just like the original. All of the hardware is brand new galvanized and stainless stuff. Daylight ran out before I could get some pics but I'll have some up tomorrow. I'm real proud of how it turned out.

Teaser pics:

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Here's a before and after. There are more pics in my gallery.

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A few things left to do:

Fenders. I found some locally but they only had one in stock.
Lights. I'm still undecided how I want to do the lights.

That's about all I can think of. The trailer had been at my stepdad's shop. He surprised me on easter when I showed up. It was sandblasted and painted. He also took the bow out of the trailer that was caused by the boat full of water. A few broken welds were fixed as well some new pieces welded in to make it stronger. This trailer is made of very thin metal so it's pretty difficult to weld. I spent the weekend redoing all the stuff to outfit the trailer like it was originally. I think I got pretty close.

I can start on the hull now.
 

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Holy cow man, GREAT loooking trailer! Looking at it on my little Blackberry screen, it literally looks brand new. Great work.
 

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looks good.
 

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It's been almost 2 years since this started. Nothing significant has been done to the hull since it was gutted. I bet you guys though I'd given up. Nope.

I'm moving forward!

Tomorrow I will begin grinding in preparation for laying glass. The hull is upside down on saw horses. There's a rather nasty external repair that needs to be ground off. There are a few holes here and there that need to be ground out. Then I can flip the hull and have it back on the trailer. It'll then be in position for prepping the hull for inside repairs. I'll also be able to make any adjustments to the trailer (which is 90% ready to go if you guys missed my post on that).

I've a supplier for marine plywood close enough that I can go pick up a couple of sheets so I believe I'll go with that. $76/sheet for 1/2". Should do fine for my deck and other small pieces I need.

I found out a little more info and history on the boat. I will be maintaing that here.

Expect plenty of pics tomorrow evening.
 

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New pics uploaded.

In summary, grinding sucks!

I stopped to take a little break. Thought I'd go ahead and upload what I had. Today started with a little grinding on the outside before I flipped the hull. Based on how the smaller holes behaved I decided not to grind off the big exterior repair until after it's been patched from the inside. My concern is that I'll lose so much material there won't be anything there to give my patch any shape.

Once the hull was on the trailer I checked the fit. It was way off but it was pretty easy to adjust. After making adjustments the boat contacts all of the support surfaces. You can see what I mean in the pics.

After the trailer was set up, I moved it back to my work area for more grinding. I'm using a a Rotozip Rebel with their medium sanding discs. It cuts very well. Working bent over and reaching into the hull is probably the worst part of it for me. I'm finding lots of resin with no glass fibers where I'm grinding holes. This is a testament to how weak the resin is without glass to reinforce it. This seems to be where most of the failures have occurred too. I continue to grind and ask myself if I'd stick glass to that. I grind until the answer is yes. I'd like my epoxy to bond to the glass that's there rather than the brittle old resin that's pooled on top of it. I'm also finding moisture in these gobs of resin so that's all getting ground out.

That's it for now. Stay tuned.

** Hey mods, it seems we can't edit the title any longer. If you can, would you change it to "i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)"? Thanks!
 
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