i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

[daviscfad]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

yeah i am tall also.. My uncle is the one who gave it to me.. He bought it from another uncle of mine who died a few years back... LOL i can remeber my uncle who was also tall driving it with the console his knees comming up over the console.. I think i would rather have the tiller handle but like i said i went with what i already had.. I am eventuallty going to put a platform on thebow for all my storage and maybe a trolling motor.. I dunno about yours but my sled is very heavy.. Oh yeah i also have trim and tilt

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Well I don't know how much it weighs now but I guarantee you it weighs a hell of a lot less than it did when it was full of water logged foam.

I got the boat from my FIL. He told me I need to put some weight up front because it was always tough to get it on plane. He said it had some water in it long before it got left out to ruin.

With all that in mind, I'm going to have to do some trials to see how the weight needs to be distributed and if I can safely add all the goodies I want.

I was hoping to be able to throw my Chrysler 20HP motor on it for some quick tests since it has a tiller. That's probably not going to work out because I've had so many problems with it and it's so expensive to work on.

I've been told this boat is very stable from side to side but I've never had one in the water to know for sure. For that reason I have some concerns about having a raised casting deck. I sure do want one though.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

2nd primer coat is on.

One more coat should be more than enough primer. This is good stuff.

 

[fire7882]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Here are the pics. It hasn't been registered since the 70s.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yes I can see the differences. Did you also notice the "hump" the console mounts to? Mine has two. I wonder if some of them had the console mounted forward. Thanks for the pics. Do you mind if I add them to my photo gallery of Crosby Sleds?

 

[fire7882]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Thanks for the pics. Do you mind if I add them to my photo gallery of Crosby Sleds?

No problem. You may add them if you wish. I hope to do a little work on this one once I finish my other boat project. I have a 20hp johnson that runs perfect that came off of it. It pushed the boat quite well in our small pond but it hasn't seen a lake in years.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Tonight I wet sanded the hull with 120. Just scuffing it up a bit for the third and hopefully final coat of primer.

Also, I squeeged some resin over all the pinholes I could find. Primer will not cover them and neither will paint. Once the resin started to gel I came back with a razor blade and scraped off the excess. There shouldn't be much to sand.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Alright. 3rd and final coat of primer is on.

Last night I did a little test on the side. I loaded my sander with 220 to see how tough it was going to be to sand the brush marks out of the primer. The 220 does a great job but cuts a little quicker than I'm comfortable with.

Back to the primer. I decided to tip the primer across the hull this time instead of longways. I figure it will make hand sanding easier. All I can say is wow. It really leveled out this time. It looks like there won't be as much sanding to get it flat before painting as I was prepared to do.

I will get some 400 disks and 400 wet or dry paper tomorrow. The sander will flatten out the brush strokes then I'll block it until I'm happy with it.

I am definitely DOING the prep work. We'll see how well it pays off come Saturday morning.

Sorry no pics. They would just look like the last pics.



Oh any by the way I'm stupid.:redface: I mixed only 1/2 a quart of primer and it did the whole boat. I basically wasted a whole quart of primer by not mixing up 1/2 quart batches on the previous 2 coats.

The upside is now I KNOW I can get a full coat of paint with 1/2 quart. So with 2 quarts I can get 4 coats.

So don't be like me and waste stuff because it's expensive!

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Gluing the piece down. It's hard to beat these little foam brushes.

Great thread I have been following it from pretty near the begining.

I think this was a while ago but im surprised that the foam brushes work so well for you, I think its because you use epoxy while I use poly which destroys the brushes within a minute of them touching the resin. Just a heads up for the poly lovers out there

Fuzzy

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yea they always work for me. They WILL put tiny bubbles in the resin if you dab them instead of brush though. They don't like solvents at all. Maybe poly has solvents in it. I know it can be thinned with acetone. Maybe the viscosity is adjusted by solvents. Just speculating.

I just read over your restore thread. A lot of those pics look very familliar. You're doing good work!

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Paint, primer and supplies...

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Here she is after 2 coats of paint.

No problems getting 2 coats out of one quart. One coat Sat. morning, then one this morning. Wet sanding with 400 between coats. 2 more coats to go. I think I will take Tue. and Wed. off work to get this done.

The paint levels out very well. I took extra time one the sides and bow to sand out all the primer brush marks before painting. It's a little breezy outside and there is some dust getting blown into the paint. My neighbor thought it would be a good time to cut grass while I was doing the first coat. You have to get really close to see it. I'm going to hit it with the clay bar before I wax it. That should get it as good as it's going to get.

 

[fuzzeywiggler]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Yea they always work for me. They WILL put tiny bubbles in the resin if you dab them instead of brush though. They don't like solvents at all. Maybe poly has solvents in it. I know it can be thinned with acetone. Maybe the viscosity is adjusted by solvents. Just speculating.

I just read over your restore thread. A lot of those pics look very familliar. You're doing good work!

If anyone would know oops or ondavar could tell me what the deal is with thoes brushes.

I was thinking the same thing about your boat we basically did them in reverse order Looking great!

Fuzzy

 

[daviscfad]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

i386 that sled looks great!!! Congrats

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Here she is after 2 coats of paint.

No problems getting 2 coats out of one quart. One coat Sat. morning, then one this morning. Wet sanding with 400 between coats. 2 more coats to go. I think I will take Tue. and Wed. off work to get this done.

The paint levels out very well. I took extra time one the sides and bow to sand out all the primer brush marks before painting. It's a little breezy outside and there is some dust getting blown into the paint. My neighbor thought it would be a good time to cut grass while I was doing the first coat. You have to get really close to see it. I'm going to hit it with the clay bar before I wax it. That should get it as good as it's going to get.

Nice work 386 Perfection will leave you a bit surprised on how well it levels and the sheen it leaves. On the other hand it also tends to high light imperfection's...you gone quite a ways already...but a little note, if you use no 2333n duing the inital coats you will get better color coverage and the outer skin will dry much faster....Umm so fast you have to watch how much paint you mix up i have it actually start adhereing to the roller aka sticking while rolling it out. On the finish coats i believe i had a 25-30% mix of 2333 to paint...the final mix was almost like water.....Id bet that on your fourth coat you could take the sand paper and smooth out as best you can that is all the dust and dirt without cutting thourgh the paint.

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I didn't add any 2333N because the temp was cool outside. Both times I painted was between 60 and 65 degrees. Today I can still dent the paint with my fingernail (if I push hard) though it's very dry to the touch. I don't know if I should be alarmed or not. It might just take some time to harden. I don't think we'll even see 70 degrees today. I'm hesitant to add any more coats until I see this harden though.

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I didn't add any 2333N because the temp was cool outside. Both times I painted was between 60 and 65 degrees. Today I can still dent the paint with my fingernail (if I push hard) though it's very dry to the touch. I don't know if I should be alarmed or not. It might just take some time to harden. I don't think we'll even see 70 degrees today. I'm hesitant to add any more coats until I see this harden though.

http://www.yachtpaint.com/USA/hotlinks/perfection_bulletin.pdf

IV. APPLICATION OF INTERLUX PERFECTION​

Perfection

can be sprayed to an appearance that is as good as gelcoat.

However, to achieve such optimum results, specific atmospheric conditions are required:
? Like all high performance two-part polyurethanes, ​

​

Perfection is a moisture sensitive product.

? It cures by a chemical reaction that is triggered and accelerated by atmospheric temperature and humidity.
? Application should always take place during good, dry and calm weather conditions in order to obtain the best possible
performance and end result.


? The optimal hull temperature range for application is 50-84?F (10-29?C)



? It is a good idea is to wet down the surrounding working area to settle any dust and dirt particles which could contaminate the
surface and mar a fresh coat of paint.
? Pot life expectancy is 2 hrs at 73?F (23?C), therefore, only mix proportionately as much paint as will be used for that application.​

? Read and follow all health and safety procedures when spraying Perfection



It cures chemically..... during the intial coats was it semi transpaent....



notice the blotchy bow nose and the sides just below the cap.....If so you have no worries bit it will take 3-5 weeks for all of the chemicals to leach out and fully harden..


​

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I've read that and the 40 page manual +videos. Was there something in particular you wanted to point out?

 

[Tail_Gunner]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

I've read that and the 40 page manual +videos. Was there something in particular you wanted to point out?

The optimal hull temperature range for application is 50-84?F (10-29?C)

Your well withn operating temps...but if moisture occurs it amy cause blushing

The Interlux technical service helpline 800-468-7589 is open Monday through Friday to assist you.

Personally i would cut down the paint now and give it another 24hours and then repaint....Sanding now will make the job very easy...it will flake off almost like a chalk...But do what you must i do know it is your time labor and money .....and your boat... and highly respect that... I will delete that pic shorlty

 

[i386]

Re: i386 Boat Restoration. (Crosby Sled)

Thanks. I just checked it again when I got home. I can't dent it with my fingernail now. I think I'll put the next coat on it Wednesday.

I feel pretty confident the claybar will pull what ever tiny dust off the surface. I've been avoiding the temptation to try it because the detail spray has wax in it. I've got some 1000 I could wet sand it with if I need to.

There's only one small spot that looks like it needs another coat. With 4 coats It should have a really good tough finish.

I think if you could use this stuff indoors at about 65 degrees, no thinner and 2 days between coats it would be perfect.