Center console project

[SHSU]

Interesting, do you have any data on how it compares to 3M 5200? I know that is the go to for most boaters.

SHSU

 

[Watermann]

View attachment 329292Hey thanks for the reply, Your talking about these circled pcs correct?

Yes those are the braces that these SC boats over 16' really should have. 16'rs just don't seem to have the problem.

Not sure I know what you mean to use the adhesive for, gluing the braces rather than solid riveting?

 

[classiccat]

That SubStructure is Lookin' good!

One thing that I see missing is a sub-deck track for running control cables, wiring and fuel lines. I did a CC conversion on my last boat and used several PVC runs; it was crucial. In your case since the lateral supports are already fastened, you can still feel long lengths of aluminum sheet metal and fabricate a trough by connecting to a longitudinal stringer.

 

[Dave Aluminum]

Interesting, do you have any data on how it compares to 3M 5200? I know that is the go to for most boaters.

SHSU

It’s cheaper, $13/tube (310ml)
I’ll ask the Weicon Monday and cut and paste they’re answer to why use Weicon vs 5200

I’m not saying it’s better...... I’m not 100% on anything. Ha. Cheers

 

[Dave Aluminum]

Interesting, do you have any data on how it compares to 3M 5200? I know that is the go to for most boaters.

SHSU

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[Dave Aluminum]

That SubStructure is Lookin' good!

One thing that I see missing is a sub-deck track for running control cables, wiring and fuel lines. I did a CC conversion on my last boat and used several PVC runs; it was crucial. In your case since the lateral supports are already fastened, you can still feel long lengths of aluminum sheet metal and fabricate a trough by connecting to a longitudinal stringer.

Yes I’ll run pvc to hold all my electrical, majority will be within the Center console, but yes running forward and rear will be conduit/pvc,
I can still bend/sneak it in, I’ve tried already. 100% it’s needed.

 

[SHSU]

I will have to look at it. Its cheaper then 3M 5200 if you don't include shipping. One site showed it was $12.99 but shipping was $67. Would be interesting to see how it stands up overtime for your project.

SHSU

 

[Dave Aluminum]

Finally got the console framed, needs bracing at every corner, 40” tall, 38” long, 25” wide…..can’t wait for more progress, one rivet at a time. Conduit next for running wiring ……cheers

 

[SHSU]

Love the supervisor and safety officer!!!

Will be a great boat for memories

SHSU

 

[Watermann]

The rebuilding stage is the most fun part of the project and I really enjoyed working with the aluminum framing materials, even more so than wood but far less forgiving.

Looks great and adding the angle AL across the ribs should help stave off rib end cracking. Have you decided what to do for the braces to isolate the spray rail chine?

 

[Dave Aluminum]

The rebuilding stage is the most fun part of the project and I really enjoyed working with the aluminum framing materials, even more so than wood but far less forgiving.

Looks great and adding the angle AL across the ribs should help stave off rib end cracking. Have you decided what to do for the braces to isolate the spray rail chine?

I’ll be honest, I’m not going to tie upper part of the chine to the lower, this boat hammered Lake Erie for 40 years before it was in my possession, without issues or any signs of stress. I’d rather fix after vs put so many rivets thru close to the water line.. I’ve never seen a split hull, only people telling me it can happen.

 

[Dave Aluminum]

I’ll be honest, I’m not going to tie upper part of the chine to the lower, this boat hammered Lake Erie for 40 years before it was in my possession, without issues or any signs of stress. I’d rather fix after vs put so many rivets thru close to the water line.. I’ve never seen a split hull, only people telling me it can happen.

If I do anything towards that …I’ll weld in some plates in the area’s larger starcrafts have them riveted in , pains me to drill below the waterline…..

 

[Watermann]

If I do anything towards that …I’ll weld in some plates in the area’s larger starcrafts have them riveted in , pains me to drill below the waterline…..

Starcraft factory put the braces under the rib ends, welding near the seams will destroy the sealer and possibly cause issues with cracking later on. Yeah there are already 100's of holes filled with rivets below the waterline.

Not sure how many of these cracked out spray rails you want to see but I can assure you it's not a wives tale. Ask @Bondo to tell you his account of this issue.

 

[Dave Aluminum]

Starcraft factory put the braces under the rib ends, welding near the seams will destroy the sealer and possibly cause issues with cracking later on. Yeah there are already 100's of holes filled with rivets below the waterline.

Not sure how many of these cracked out spray rails you want to see but I can assure you it's not a wives tale. Ask @Bondo to tell you his account of this issue.

Dang, well if that isn’t motivation I’m not sure what is…. Guess I’ll be drilling more holes. Cheers

 

[DCampbell]

Starcraft factory put the braces under the rib ends, welding near the seams will destroy the sealer and possibly cause issues with cracking later on. Yeah there are already 100's of holes filled with rivets below the waterline.

Not sure how many of these cracked out spray rails you want to see but I can assure you it's not a wives tale. Ask @Bondo to tell you his account of this issue.

wow ! I would hate to see that.

 

[Watermann]

Dang, well if that isn’t motivation I’m not sure what is…. Guess I’ll be drilling more holes. Cheers

Yes and especially with your precious cargo that could be aboard.

 

[DCampbell]

what did you use to clean your hull with ? Im thinking I might use a brass wire cup on a drill or angle grinder

 

[Dave Aluminum]

what did you use to clean your hull with ? Im thinking I might use a brass wire cup on a drill or angle grinder

Toilet bowl cleaner and a garden hose to rinse off

 

[Dave Aluminum]

 

[Dave Aluminum]

Finally made templates and have now fit all interior wood panels, now to epoxy and oil based paint
Getting all carpeted this weekend ……..

Time and money…. Time flies