'79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

[Triton II]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

You've been a busy bear HA!

TII

 

[jasoutside]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

That transom has been a bit of a thorn for you man, it will be nice to move on from it eh.

She is coming together Mike, keep on it!

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

The PO sure loved using the wrong stuff didn't he?

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

You've been a busy bear HA!

TII

As CheapBoatKev would say, just whistlin and shufflin my feet TII

I do need to keep after it, our boating season is pretty much here now. The municipal workers will even have the docks installed in a few more months

That transom has been a bit of a thorn for you man, it will be nice to move on from it eh.

She is coming together Mike, keep on it!

You are not kidding, I'm glad it finally fits well now. I really didn't want to bend that much of the aluminum but whatever works. It's gonna be a strong transom, feels solid already.

I think we can get that transom epoxied and installed permanently pretty soon, on to painting then

The PO sure loved using the wrong stuff didn't he?

I have not found any stainless bolts on this rig, except the factory ones.:facepalm:

All replaced with really cheap stuff a while back. I think it was restored by the guy who sold it to the person I bought it from.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

OK I have a bit of a problem to solve, hoping for a couple suggestions here.

If you look at the six smaller holes where the knee brace gets bolted to the transom, you'll notice that some of them have been drilled twice and the three on the left are pretty bad.

The previous restorer apparently ballparked these and probably drilled from the inside out maybe??? It truly baffles me how this could've been screwed up so badly:facepalm:
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I think I could go larger in diameter on the bolts, but the area on the knee brace where they connect doesn't allow for too much of an increase. I could make that larger by adding to the brace much like fshngho did on his SS.

I'm at a bit of a standstill until I figure this out, so I'll be thinking about this for a bit.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Some photos of the Merc while we've been working on the lower unit.

I have a thread going where a bunch of people started an intense argument on whether or not it should be in F, N or R while attached the lower.

Folks are claiming all three as the best choice so I'm thoroughly confused.:facepalm:

Laddies is an iboats member that worked up north for 40 years on Mercs so I'll probably take his advice.

You can see that the motor has been well used over the years.

Here you can see the mangled metal tube that the plastic water pick-up piece mates up to. I cracked the plastic piece, so I will order another. Good thing it's a $4 part.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Here's the transom with almost all the holes drilled out to the correct size. The drain tube holes need to be enlarged a bit, I think I have a hole saw bit that will work if I can find it.

The remaining six holes are for the knee brace, and as I mentioned earlier are a problem due to the aluminum skin having been drilled twice in slightly different locations. This is my new challenge

The GOOD news is that the transom fits almost perfectly, and both pieces can be lifted out easily.

It took me long enough(some say a transom is a weekend job) but I'm happy with the results so far.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Lowes has some pretty hefty alminum angle. Beef it up with that and go with larger bolts.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Lowes has some pretty hefty alminum angle. Beef it up with that and go with larger bolts.

I've got these leftover from the SS. They were supports for the side panels that were riveted into the gunwales.

They might be strong enough to use, and probably the same alloy that's a bonus.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Hey buddy, are your inside knee brace holes drilled out too big as well?

If not, I'd prolly just bolt up as is.

If they are all opened up and drilled out then throwing on some extra alum may be the ticket.

That transom looks about ready for epoxy eh!

Cheers man

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I've pretty much decided to keep the CMC bracket for convenience, so I'm looking at this Evinrude as a candidate. Not much going on on the boat except waiting for parts to get shipped and applying more epoxy resin.

I will be finishing the little boat this week so I can focus 100% on the SS

http://lansing.craigslist.org/boa/2332582850.html

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Getting ready to order some splashwell drain fittings, quick question on that. The size I'm looking at is 3/4" x 3/4"-2.5" in length. I think this might be the right size but not sure.

Here's a link to it on iboats.

 

[djpeters]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Getting ready to order some splashwell drain fittings, quick question on that. The size I'm looking at is 3/4" x 3/4"-2.5" in length. I think this might be the right size but not sure.

Here's a link to it on iboats.

Mine were 1" diameter, not sure if they are all the same or not though....

I got these:
http://www.iboats.com/Drain-Tube/dm/*******.114293585--**********.608497369--view_id.39188

 

[MichaelP]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I think you want the drains that you flare with a big ball peen hammer. They should be brass or aluminum. Thos plastic ones are thru hull fitting for bilge pumps etc.

http://www.iboats.com/Boat-Parts-Ac...07--keywords.drain tube--**********.130047769

Here are instructions to instal them. Got this from someone here but not sure who.

1. Measure thickness of transom where tube goes.
2. Trim tube to 1/8" to 3/16" longer than you measured in step 1
3. Coat tube with 3m 5200 and insert into hole. I insert from inside.
4. Clamp tube in place using 2 clamps and a 2x4 with the clamps on either side of the tube.
5. The other side of the tube should be unobstructed.
6. Now take a steel bar a little smaller than the inside of the tube and a hammer and work the protruding end down to form a flange
7. clean up the 5200 that squeezes out

You can make a flaring tool with a long bolt , fender washers and a cone to force the end of the tube into a flare. Hobby shops sell alum propellor cones, just drill the screw hole out to take a bigger bolt.

Alternatively, a ball peen hammer, brace the tube on the inside to hold it, place the hammer's ball in position and belt the hammer face with a second hammer.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Sounds good, I just ordered those. That was my second choice and you guys both posted the same one so I'm sold. Aluminum it is, thanks for chiming in fellas.

 

[MichaelP]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I read how someone here sandwiched fiberglass cloth between the 2 sheets of plywood for added strength. Are you planning to do it that way? Also wondering if you were able to get your 2 pieces cut out of 1 sheet.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Those plastic ones are thru hull fitting for bilge pumps etc.

That's not necessarily true. The ones I ordered were specifically called transom drains and are intended for this purpose. 1" http://www.wholesalemarine.com/p/S-D-520320-1/Sea+Dog+Molded+Nylon+Motorwell+Drain+Tube.html If you hadn't already ordered the aluminum ones Mike I would have have told you to order those because I know you don't really need something else to mess with like faring an aluminum one.

 

[MichaelP]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

Right. They looked like the threaded ones at first glance...Does 5200 stick to nylon or is something else used to bed them?

 

[ezmobee]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I used 5200.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: '79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

I read how someone here sandwiched fiberglass cloth between the 2 sheets of plywood for added strength. Are you planning to do it that way? Also wondering if you were able to get your 2 pieces cut out of 1 sheet.

I don't mess with fiberglass cloth, mat, roven, weave, fillets, respirators or anything like that

I'm gonna stick them together with epoxy resin as a glue, clamp them together and them seal it again once that cures.

I did manage to get both transom pieces out of 1 sheet of 4'x8' Arauco sheet, one really nice thing about the 16 footers