'79 Starcraft SS 16 restoration

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jbcurt00

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The cutting board transom plate sounds like a great idea! Does PL stick to the exact make-up of that board? 4200/5200? Or thru bolt on?

A quick google @ UV stability plastic cutting board came up w/ some that were 'more' UV resistant: HDPE

and some that weren't: LDPE

The pix all looked similar to me, enough so that I couldn't tell them apart in pix. The last place I read, listed UHMW polyethylene as denser, and more resistant then either of the other 2. On a side note, the only plastic w/ a lower slip co-efficeint then UHMW is Teflon. So it might work better then other cuttingboards for other stuff too.
 

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I think if it's regular cutting board stuff, the UV will cause you problems :(.
 

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Here are some more photos...

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Here are some more shots of the cutting board in place.

We are going to give it a whirl...will let you know if it's necessary to spend the extra coin on starboard, etc...

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I counter sunk holes for the bolt heads to fit into, since the knee brace bolts are already in place.

This thing will be bolted in well regardless, with the 4 1/2" and 4 1/4" bolts, and 5200:).

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The prop has gotten cleaned up a bit as well:)

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I like the counter sunk holes for the knee brace bolts. A lot better than tearing the bolts out to through bolt the pad. Still plenty of hold with the rest of the bolts. Are you going to use some 5200 to edge seal between the pad and transom? Trapped water might lead to the dreaded pits.

Hoping the you have the UV resistant type. But no biggie, it will take years of sun to take it's toll
 

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More progress today!

Some rain this morning, but it cleared up and my fishing buddy stopped by so we got a lot done in little time this afternoon.

My progress has been slowed by this cold streak we've had lately. The temps rose into the 60s today which was nice.

Here you will see that we got two light coats of zinc on the stern.

The taping wasn't bad for this area thankfully. My friend is a painter and I let him do the tricky areas.

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Then we applied two coats of Rusto Light Machine Grey, got a real nice finish and few issues.

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lookin good. i had this thread in my bookmarks and used it quite a few times as reference for my rebuild
 

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Here's one more photo of the stern all painted up.

I'm happy with the finish, just hope the adhesion is good which time will tell.:)

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I'm also in the middle of prepping the forward console pieces, which are also the backs of the bench seats in the bow.

There are some epoxy drips that were overlooked the first(or second?) time around that I've been grinding down with a conical bit on the drill.

I'd like to have these covered in Nautolex marine vinyl, but since we are on a budget they will get the same paint as the consoles and hopefully some cushions eventually.

We will be dealing with vinyl quite a bit in the future since I really want a bow cover and seat cushions for the bow also.:D

Glad to get closer to mounting up the bracket, we are gonna let the paint cure and get the motor mounted within two weeks if all goes well.:)

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I like the Lt. Machine Grey. Not too dark or light - just right. I guess the old yellow is out of mind now.
 

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I like the counter sunk holes for the knee brace bolts. A lot better than tearing the bolts out to through bolt the pad. Still plenty of hold with the rest of the bolts. Are you going to use some 5200 to edge seal between the pad and transom? Trapped water might lead to the dreaded pits.

Hoping the you have the UV resistant type. But no biggie, it will take years of sun to take it's toll

Thanks GA, my buddy threw out the idea for routing out the cutting board and it made good sense to me.

Course, since the knee brace bolts were already in place with 5200 at the time our options were slightly limited.:facepalm:

You are correct, there are eight bolts left to keep things secure, no worries there.

I'm hoping that the fact that it will not absorb or hold water will help with the corrosion issue.

I know nothing about the make-up and UV rating for that plastic...I will say I've seen it used extensively in the rock-crawler world with great results. They typically use it in areas subject to rock contact (skid plates, nerf bars, etc...) and it's very durable, easily replaceable and relatively cheap!? I have seen others on iboats use it in other ways as well! I'd say go for it and if not happy with the results or any of the negatives you've shown concern about pop up, you can easily replace it with the epoxied plywood?!

I like that it's rot resistant and maybe have better vibration dampening that wood as I don't think it's as dense?!

Just my $.0002

Thanks for the info Baja, it's pretty tough stuff so hopefully it holds up for a little while anyway.:)

It's cheap for sure, I think I paid $12 for it and it's a decent size piece.

Looks a good week's worth of progress, HA.

Test the cutting board for compressibility. Kind of Neanderthallian but whack it with a hammer. I don't think it will even be marked. It is denser than plywood. UV is the big concern. It might get chalky after a while, but this is a guess.

I agree that it is denser than plywood, I tried to do what you said to mark the bolts rather than make a template and nothing marks this stuff up much at all.

The cutting board transom plate sounds like a great idea! Does PL stick to the exact make-up of that board? 4200/5200? Or thru bolt on?

A quick google @ UV stability plastic cutting board came up w/ some that were 'more' UV resistant: HDPE

and some that weren't: LDPE

The pix all looked similar to me, enough so that I couldn't tell them apart in pix. The last place I read, listed UHMW polyethylene as denser, and more resistant then either of the other 2. On a side note, the only plastic w/ a lower slip co-efficeint then UHMW is Teflon. So it might work better then other cuttingboards for other stuff too.

Thanks JB, I am not sure if this stuff has any UV resistance but a season of fishing will tell us.

I think if it's regular cutting board stuff, the UV will cause you problems :(.

Thanks for stopping by LL, we will see if it turns yellow and cracks soon enough.

Sure hope not, but if I get a cover for the motor maybe that will minimize any possible UV damage.

Perhaps buy a piece of Starboard.

I did not consider pricing Starboard, I wonder how much they are asking for a piece this size. Might not be too bad actually.

If I need to do this over again I will epoxy some ply or get Starboard.

lookin good. i had this thread in my bookmarks and used it quite a few times as reference for my rebuild

Hi Keith, glad that my thread may have helped out, I will check out your project and see what you have going on.:)
 

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I like the Lt. Machine Grey. Not too dark or light - just right. I guess the old yellow is out of mind now.

I've been wanting a light grey like this and got the idea from Jason's Jet Star project.

Rusto's Smoke grey is too dark and gets hot in the sun. That's what I used on my 12 footer and previously on this boat.

The original rubrail is still there and it's yellow.

It's funny that you mention it...Roslynn has mentioned that she misses the yellow stripe, so we'll see.:):)
 

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Looking real good HA, I think that cutting board will work great for that job.
Glen
 

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Looking good HA. I have a question about the ZC you primed with. If I remember correctly you stripped pretty the entire boat of paint. I was wondering if you hadnt stripped the whole thing would you just have to spot spray with the ZC or can t be used over existing paint?/?
 

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Looking good HA. I have a question about the ZC you primed with. If I remember correctly you stripped pretty the entire boat of paint. I was wondering if you hadnt stripped the whole thing would you just have to spot spray with the ZC or can t be used over existing paint?/?

People say that you can paint over existing paint, some still use a normal primer.

The zinc chromate is only needed when you've got bare metal.

Some folks would have also used a normal build-up primer over the zinc but I did not.

I'm not a paint expert, what little I know is from reading the forums here.:)
 

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Glad to see you're back at it HA! We gotta get our boats done soon :D!
 

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We got the splashwell seam lined with a bead of 5200. The drains should work well, they are pretty flush.:)

Looking forward to getting the splashwell and topside gunwhales painted, and the consoles should be in soon enough.

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Here you can see the port side panel installed.

I am debating on attaching some aluminum angle at the base the full length of the panel for a cleaner look.

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