'78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Only folks that need to know it is there are reading the thread....It can be a surprise for the next person that does a restore on this boat...

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Man,I kinda like it. Art Deco and all. Kinda looks like it came from the 60's. If you had a Black Light and a Strobe light, we could have a party!!!!

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

They did a great job! You may want them to do a nice zolatone/splater paint job on the deck !

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Man,I kinda like it. Art Deco and all. Kinda looks like it came from the 60's. If you had a Black Light and a Strobe light, we could have a party!!!!

Thanks Wood...does look kinda neat...

They did a great job! You may want them to do a nice zolatone/splater paint job on the deck !

They did do good...the littlest one had trouble getting any paint to fling...she did manage to get covered by the others though...

What a mess they had...

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Last dry fit...Or so I hope...

the inlet tube lifts the deck about 1/4" ...so add the hose and it is about 1/2" to 5/8" to high...

Scallop the under side of deck?

Just cut that little section out completely?

I came real close to screwing the deck down...

But it has been a long hot day...
Think I will close up shop and call it a day...

Gots lots of little things that have to be done before I can screw that section down...

You can see I got the motor mounting blocks cut to size...not installed yet.

I bet I spent 2 hours measuring and looking for documents that showed where these needed to be in relationship to the key hole... If anything I have them lower than they were before... Why didn't I base my measurements from the tops of gunwales before demo????

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Hmmm maybe an inspection hatch .. There is no way to lower the tank could you raise the deck? I would think that the hose rubbing on the bottom of the deck is not a good thing.

 

[Pmccraney]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I would just scallop it.., hatch is a good idea, but might be too close to the edge of the engine box and off center... On the mounts, you did right building them low. The merc manual will give distance but you are going to have to play with height a little anyway when you reinstall your engine and are checking alignment... If you need more height than the bolt adjustments can give you, just add some spacer blocks....see Jason's islander thread.. He has a video of himself doing it that way... Worked great! I'm jealous of your progress..trying to follow in your wake!

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I thought you were going to add some supports across the tank for the deck ? i can;t remember :facepalm:. If you scallop you may want to beef up under the ply a little being that close to a joint..

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I still have not decided how to resolve this...thinking the best thing may be to remove the wood above that opening. That connecting part from left to right will only be about 2" wide if I cut it to be flush with the bulkhead, from the aft side where the radius are now. I left it a bit wider so I could move it without it falling apart. I had planned on placing wood at the seams on all the deck joints where they did not line up on a gusset or a bulkhead. With the fittings it will be a broken mess anyway.


EDIT: it is actually about half an inch too high as it sits, not 1/4....that has to come out or I go to a wider section as outlined as an option below....

I have no doghouse to use for measurements on where it will be located. The one I pulled out fell apart and I had it hauled away before taking any measurements. It was too long in my opinion anyway. I have been thinking it would actually cover these tank connectors anyway...maybe not...

When installing the drain tubes...do they go in after or before gelcoat? I plan on rolling some gelcoat in the bilge and tank areas.

One other option.....I do still have one sheet of ply left...I could put a full 48" sheet in here...then cut the one over the tank down, it is currently 48" wide. This will mean more resin has been wasted though...last thing I want to do...

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Do you have enough space from the top of the tank to the top of the stringers to maybe install a piece of allum angle in front of the tube running prt to str then bridge a smaller piece from the angle back to your bulkhead next to the tube. That might beef it up some.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Do you have enough space from the top of the tank to the top of the stringers to maybe install a piece of allum angle in front of the tube running prt to str then bridge a smaller piece from the angle back to your bulkhead next to the tube. That might beef it up some.

If I understand correctly, that is what I was planning to do with a piece of wood.

Any way I look at it,it seems that window has to be opened all the way to the top of deck. I will just cover it with the dog house I suppose.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

How is the front of the dog house going to finish out? You could figure out a 'nice' way to have an extra little foot sticking out to cover the tank hoses & fittings:

Not my 1st choice, but gets the job done..... There are interesting little bump outs in the fiberglass on lots of boats 'just to cover' whatever is behind them....

If your deck space isn't at a premium, you could also make it all the way across, angled just enough to clear the hoses, but not full height, so it has a smaller look/feel then making the whole doghouse big enough to cover. Or find an interesting over all shape that covers but doesn't seem oddly off balance. In either case you could make the upper portion of this extended area a cubby hole for odds & ends, built in cup holders, rod holders, a lockable bin (vertical glove box kind of thing), built in slide in 'rack' for fishing tackle boxes (Like CC254's).

Throw lots of ideas around, eventually 1 will stick to the wall & make sense to you.

Re: the drain plugs, you can prep the area the hole (may even over drill w a bigger hole then you need, mix heavy structural PB & fill the void completely & cover w/ glass), drill for your plug fitting. Then paint it well w/ gelcoat 1st. After it's all finished use some 5200 in the hole & @ the fitting & install it. That way it's as sealed as you can get it, & no masking off the fitting to paint.

You might even want to countersink a larger hole on the inside surface of the transom so your PB plug will be keyed int to transom. Gives you extra bonding surface area for the PB & reduces the likely hood of it pulling thru the hull. Much more important on heavy load thru holes (motor mounts, tow eyes, ladder mounts & etc), but extra bonding surface is always good.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I like that idea JB....I had actually been considering something like a low cup holder or something...

But as per usual...I won't know which way I will go till it happens

Appreciate all the suggestions though, they do help.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I really like the doghouse Azlo built:

The angle & the 'toe kick' space make it look/feel smaller then it probably actually is. Plus a spot at the top for adult frosty libation

I suspect it was equal parts non-standard doghouse, more deck space, getting clear of his crank pulley, and maybe somewhere to tip the doghouse forward & let it rest on that small angle at the bottom........

But yep, like it....

 

[Colorado_Boater]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

really like the tank idea trooper,
how's the rest of the deck coming along.

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

really like the tank idea trooper,
how's the rest of the deck coming along.

Thanks CB...that was the grandkids idea.. they couldn't stand to just see it black, looked like an empty canvas I guess

The deck...still not sure if I will get anything done today or not. Currently working on glassing the motor mounting blocks. heat is climbing fast though... UV index is 11....so not sure I can do much till later this afternoon.

 

[sphelps]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

If I understand correctly, that is what I was planning to do with a piece of wood.

Any way I look at it,it seems that window has to be opened all the way to the top of deck. I will just cover it with the dog house I suppose.

Yep the same as the wood and you would not need to seal it with fiberglass. It was just a thought.
I like the dog house Idea also !

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Waiting on glass to cure....

while I wait, was thinking about how these motor mounts are going to attach...

I figured to bed them in PB then tab them with a couple layers of 1708.....do you see any benefit to screwing them to the stringers?

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

Here is today's progress so far...

Can't talk myself into glassing the rest of them...too hot...

I have however just about talked myself into screwing down the first piece of Deck....

 

[Trooper82]

Re: '78 Ebko Lebaron - Therapy

I also discovered, by accident...that a suspicion of mine is true...

A couple of times..today included it looks like my measure-matic was dumping more MEKP than I had squeezed into the top section....

I just tilted it a few minutes ago...it dumped 5cc or is it ml? without squeezing it at all!

I think I will start going with the shotglass method from here on out...