1990 Steiger Craft transom investigation

[ahmincha]

Yeah lake Erie can kick up on you Thats why I'm looking for a little bigger boat.I'm sure you and the Mrs had fun though

 

[jc55]

We sure did.


GARBOARD DRAIN RANT:
Once upon a time there was a certain boat with a garboard drain. It was shoved tightly into a drain sleeve which was presumably made under the Dewey Decimal System in the United States of America in 1990. The garboard drain was media blasted and held up to a brand new 1" brass sleeve straight out of the package. No way under any circumstance would the stock Garboard drain fit into the 1" mainstream "popular brand name among boating accessories" sleeve. Pressing, pounding, etc., was out of the question because the sleeve was the same size (if not smaller) as the garboard insert.

Surely, it takes the only other brass sleeve known to the world of boating...the 1 1/4". Installed the 1 1/4" sleeve with PB in a slightly bigger hole...oops. The garboard drain is too small. Oh and garboard drains for 1 1/4" sleeves don't exist. After 2 hours an "ATTWOOD searay 2 1/8 flange oversized garboard" with a smaller plug yet, is found and ordered. Epic fail. Chinese junk. Amateur boat wright. I'm gonna have to get a custom garboard made at a machine shop:facepalm:

 

[jigngrub]

We sure did.


GARBOARD DRAIN RANT:
Once upon a time there was a certain boat with a garboard drain. It was shoved tightly into a drain sleeve which was presumably made under the Dewey Decimal System in the United States of America in 1990. The garboard drain was media blasted and held up to a brand new 1" brass sleeve straight out of the package. No way under any circumstance would the stock Garboard drain fit into the 1" mainstream "popular brand name among boating accessories" sleeve. Pressing, pounding, etc., was out of the question because the sleeve was the same size (if not smaller) as the garboard insert.

Surely, it takes the only other brass sleeve known to the world of boating...the 1 1/4". Installed the 1 1/4" sleeve with PB in a slightly bigger hole...oops. The garboard drain is too small. Oh and garboard drains for 1 1/4" sleeves don't exist. After 2 hours an "ATTWOOD searay 2 1/8 flange oversized garboard" with a smaller plug yet, is found and ordered. Epic fail. Chinese junk. Amateur boat wright. I'm gonna have to get a custom garboard made at a machine shop:facepalm:

I think most folks from Oh-Hi-Ya use one of these anyway eh?!


:laugh::lol::laugh:

 

[Woodonglass]

OR...You could use a chisel and Drive the Sleeve completely out of the transom, Glue a wood dowel into the hole and then redrill an oversized hole, Use PVC for a tube and install it using "Hairy PB" then fit the Garboard Drain and install it.

 

[jc55]

That's a great idea Wood. Next time, I think I will just use PVC and put a little more thought and prefitting. This new, larger garboard is on the way. If it doesn't work out, My dad said he'll make one on his lathe.

Tank from Carr Enterprises came in. What a tank!

 

[Woodonglass]

Yeah, looks like somebody knows how to build a below deck fuel tank!!!

 

[jc55]

It's quite a bit better than what came out, that's for sure, Wood.

Trial fit of the pilot house deck. Had to cut about an 1/8" off the bottom of the pilot house back and she slid right in. Adding a hatch too. This section should keep me busy for a while.

I'm really leaning towards just resin coating the bottom but wrapping the edges and covering the top with 1708. My '68 Sport Craft was resin coated under it's deck and it was extremely solid. I'm still working off that roll from the last boat resto.

 

[jigngrub]

I'm really leaning towards just resin coating the bottom

You know better than that!

... but no matter what you do, it'll still be a better job than what was down on the deck before you started and last a long time if you glass the top of the deck in properly.

 

[Woodonglass]

Uhmmm, Poly resin without mat is pretty much worthless!!! You'd be better off using the Old Timers Recipe and Oil based paint than resin with no mat!!!!

 

[jc55]

Thanks for the replies. Okay CSM on order.

 

[jigngrub]

Yeah, and we all know how adhesives bond to and resins penetrate an oily surface or substrate... not too well.

One layer of 3/4 oz. csm will keep that poly resin from cracking and flaking off and shouldn't add that much thickness to the bottom side of the decking for a better build.

 

[Woodonglass]

Uhmm, no need for resins to penetrate if you use the Old Timers Recipe. If you read and understood the Old Timers Recipe you'd discover it's finished off with 2 layers of Polyurethane and the last time I checked Polyester resin will adhere just fine to a polyurethane surface!!! They're in the same family!!!

 

[jigngrub]

... and when the polyurethane peels off of the boiled linseed oil saturated wood, the polyester resin and cloth is going to come up with it.... not my idea of a seaworthy build.

 

[Woodonglass]

Experience is a great teacher and mine tells me it works very well. I won't waste any more of JC's thread on the subject he's already stated he's ordering mat.

 

[jc55]

Nothing new to report. It's been too cold to glass and with work and rentals, I've been too busy. It appears as if I had soft decks near the "poop deck"...

Luckily, I had some marine plywood from my transom notch that fit perfectly...

 

[zool]

That looks good, may be a little to report, but its progress, and another area that wont need attention...A solid commode cant be a bad thing

 

[jc55]

Back at it again. Built my hillbilly heat bubble. Oh yeah baby...

Got my pilot house deck CSM'ed underneath and 1708 on top...

 

[zool]

Hillbilly? nah, youre inside, that's just making it work, hillbilly is when you build it outside, where passerbys can see

besides, as long as the glass comes out good like yours, it don't matter how u do it! Looks good...

 

[kcassells]

Hey Jc,

Looks great! Boy I wish I had a hopper like that on my boat and I'm a plumber.

 

[jc55]

Hopper, do you mean the toilet, kcassels? No that's a rental property toilet. I had the perfect piece of marine plywood from my transom notch to repair the floor in that old house!

Thanks Zool, looks like we're all scrambling to get some heat.