1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

I kept my recipts....still haven't added them up, not to sure I want to

yea, the way I see it, regardless of how much they add up to, as long as the admiral dont see them, ill probably survive!!

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

yea, the way I see it, regardless of how much they add up to, as long as the admiral dont see them, ill probably survive!!

Amen there brother!

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Where else you gunna buy a boat with this kind of payment plan??? I don't think the Dealers would understand!!!!!:faint2:

 

[Cellotbp]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

thanks, well boating is good all year around here and mine has been down for a about a month now bcuz of some oil leak in my bildge, woke up and it was filled with oil and i dont know quite where it comes from. around the oil filter was really oily and the bottom of the oil pan also. But i think its time for a rebuild a new paint job a good clean up and do over. i wish i could rebuild the hull and turn it into a downeaster cruiser style boat, for now i just wanna go fishing Grouper season opens again next month and there delicious.

 

[Cellotbp]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Thanks Cellot, not much to complain about being in the Bahamas!.....just think, if you fix the Trophy...you could make the Lauderdale/West End jump without too much trouble in a 28 ....I try to keep the thread entertaining, even if it means showing some of the wackyness i get involved in here!...posting glass lams gets boring, but i have a few more pics for you guys.

thanks, well boating is good all year around here and mine has been down for a about a month now bcuz of some oil leak in my bildge, woke up and it was filled with oil and i dont know quite where it comes from. around the oil filter was really oily and the bottom of the oil pan also. But i think its time for a rebuild a new paint job a good clean up and do over. i wish i could rebuild the hull and turn it into a downeaster cruiser style boat, for now i just wanna go fishing Grouper season opens again next month and there delicious.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Where else you gunna buy a boat with this kind of payment plan??? I don't think the Dealers would understand!!!!!:faint2:

Good point, If the admiral added up the receipts, she may kick me out for a few days, if she found a payment book for a NEW 28er..who knows where she would kick me!

 

[mr300z87]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

That little mold you made is cool, can't wait to see how the gutter turns out. I am coming to visit your place to learn how the fiberglass. My attempts years ago never seemed to come out too well, but there was not iboats back then to help the learning curve. Sorry about your place on LBI, hurricane Sandy was definetly crazy, I love it there my parents had place there back in the 80s. Spent many days out on the bay waterskiing from my old Glastron tri hull. Still have not forgave them for selling it. It was across from Nardies tavern they sold as I turned 21 before me and my friends got in real trouble. Now we usually boat out of the Brick/Toms River area (the wife loves hanging at tieces shoals) or the Shrewbury River. I am hoping to some day keep my Sundancer on LBI as my beach house. Keep up the good work!

have great night

Mike

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

That little mold you made is cool, can't wait to see how the gutter turns out. I am coming to visit your place to learn how the fiberglass. My attempts years ago never seemed to come out too well, but there was not iboats back then to help the learning curve. Sorry about your place on LBI, hurricane Sandy was definetly crazy, I love it there my parents had place there back in the 80s. Spent many days out on the bay waterskiing from my old Glastron tri hull. Still have not forgave them for selling it. It was across from Nardies tavern they sold as I turned 21 before me and my friends got in real trouble. Now we usually boat out of the Brick/Toms River area (the wife loves hanging at tieces shoals) or the Shrewbury River. I am hoping to some day keep my Sundancer on LBI as my beach house. Keep up the good work!

have great night

Mike

Thanks Mike, but learn from me?!....im just figuring it out as I go, when i can keep my hands from breaking out lol.....Ive been hanging around that island since the 70's...alots changed over the years...some bad, some good...like now, Nardies has a big pink bus that picks you up, and drops you back off all drunk .....Ihear tieces shoal is a happening spot...

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Update:

outside temp = 37 deg F
bubble temp = 50 deg F
RH = 62+-
Partial sun




Getting better, but were getting another cold spell next week.....bummer

Anayway, I continued on with the 1st cutout repair. I grinded the repair area out, then found a rounded piece of molding and clamped the channel mold in place



The flipped it and layed some cloth overlapping
3 layers of 17oz.



then I used the heat gun, and an electric heater to cure it fast. The i was able to pop the mold off. The gutter area came out good.




The i used a piece of 1x clamped on the lip edge to make the 90 deg turn to for the edge lip.



then laid 3 more layers of cloth up the edge.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Did a test fit, the mold fits good for thr other repair spot too.

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

I also made some progress on the spray booth. The ceiling was not level and randomly spaced with hand sawn beams....so I used some of the t&g 2x6's ive been depleting to level off the ceiling and get it 16 oc. started framing the corner light areas.



Framed the right side wall over a block base and laid out the base for the exhaust wall plenum.





Once this is finished being framed, gonna lay out the sprinkler pipe and air pipes....

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Looks like you have been busy! Sprinkler pipes?

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

To wet down the floor of the spray booth, before spraying, maybe?

Otherwise, man on fire while he's working in the booth?

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Yea guys, im adding fire sprinklers to the whole building, a pressurized stand alone wet system. 2 heads will go in the booth, wont help with flash fire, but it may save the project and limit damage....I was gonna use blazemaster cpvc but i cant source it locally, so going with 3/4 and 1 inch copper. Also 3/4 copper for air. The exhaust fan wil be explosion proof...but overspray will still cake on it and in the plenum.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Hmmm not sure a wet system will do you much good, but it doesn't hurt....unless it floats a burning liquid to another area of your barn. I guess it depends on what materials you plan on spraying.

 

[archbuilder]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Two layers of 5/8" gyp board and rated doors would go a long way in containing anything.....then maybe the sprinkler would have a chance before things could migrate. Overthinking I, sure!

 

[Watermann]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Now that paint booth is something to make all of us dog hair and bugs in the paint type schlubs jealous. ainkiller:

 

[bajaunderground]

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Careful with a "wet" system as it will freeze! You want either a FM200 system (pricey) or a "dry" system; however, the water source and dry valve need to be heated! There are anti-freeze systems as well, I cannot remember the name? CPVC or Blazemaster needs to be 100% sealed in soffits and chases as UV rays will break it down. Copper is a good choice; albeit, more expensive!

I once sold a stand alone "dry" system to a Big "R" farm store in Falcon, Colorado...no direct water source...when I quoted the developer over $1million for the complete code required system (100,000 gallon cistern, UL rated pump, generator with shunt, etc....), it would've stalled the store being built. I love thinking outside the box...I got the local FD (Falcon Fire, approx 2 miles down the highway, to accept pressurized dry system with smoke and heat alarms...If I remember correctly (it's been over 12 years ago) the system ended up costing them just over $35K?! When the large enough water supply made it that way it was converted to a wet system! Basically, it would alarm the FD of an alarm (whether smoke, heat or frangible bulb breakage, pressure release). Then the FD could respond with 2 engines and a Tender and connect to the FDC...that would be the sole water supply!

I like the idea, sold a ton of pre-action systems to auto body shops...my only caveat for you is be careful if the bulbs/heads get painted...they lose their respective ratings because it insulates the frangible bulbs (or fusible links). Of course, I'm not sure if you plan painting a lot?

Cheers!

~Brett

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Hmmm not sure a wet system will do you much good, but it doesn't hurt....unless it floats a burning liquid to another area of your barn. I guess it depends on what materials you plan on spraying.

The thing is Arch, this sytem was not designed around the booth, that idea came afterward..you can see in the pics a window frame that wont be cut out....the remainder of the lower level and loft will be most likly be dried pine T&G r board/batten...Yea, a foam system would be best. but I figure, a few 75psi heads wetting the walls in the booth cant hurt......The loft will prolly end up being a crash area, and heads spraying the outer walls and stairway, as you say...wont hurt... if at least, allowing exit

 

[zool]

Re: 1988 Imperial 280sf engine swap and restoration (pics)

Now that paint booth is something to make all of us dog hair and bugs in the paint type schlubs jealous. ainkiller:

Maybe its just me, bu there are some crazy azz bugs around here!!