1984 Starcraft 16ft Glutton for Punishment [Splashed July 2019]

[EchoNovember]

Yeah, we've launched ours a whopping three times... Then spent a good chunk of our boating season fixing it up.

I'm now far more qualified to help someone fix their engine than I am to advise them on how to actually operate a boat...

 

[eMKay]

Please bear with me...still coming to terms with PB eating my lunch.

I went the external patch route. I first formed the patches using a deadblow hammer. You can make the Al patches more malleable by coating one side with soap and heating the opposite side until the soap burns.

Notice I added more holes to the center region of the patch and riveted those 1st (they'd otherwise be covered by the kneebrace).

That's some nice work there, I just discovered similar damage to mine, I'll have to do some reinforcement as well.

 

[SHSU]

Please bear with me...still coming to terms with PB eating my lunch.

I went the external patch route. I first formed the patches using a deadblow hammer. You can make the Al patches more malleable by coating one side with soap and heating the opposite side until the soap burns.

Notice I added more holes to the center region of the patch and riveted those 1st (they'd otherwise be covered by the kneebrace).

Man that is nice work!!! Want to do mine????

I was thinking about doing it from the inside, but after seeing yours, I don't see any issue with doing it from outside like that. I noticed you riveted your knee brace in, is that supposed to be how its installed? Mine was bolted in, don't know if by the previous owner or not. I am taking my knee brace to a welder sometime this week to get them to beef it up.

What gauge/thickness of aluminum did you use for the patch?

Why soap? Is it to keep me from overheating the aluminum? If so that is a nice tidbit of knowledge.

 

[Watermann]

You have to do the patch on the outside, otherwise it will raise the height of the brace and the holes won't line up. Also if there's an impact in the area it has a solid surface to absorb it rather than the weakened section.

 

[SHSU]

Somebody has to be first.Since day one of boating life began 40 years ago ive made it a habit to put my plug in as i take off the transom straps and pull the plug when i reload.Never varies never forget .classicat ,nice job.

LOL, hoping someone with it comes on here and tells us how it is. I read that if trash gets into it, it will allow water both ways, so you have to make sure it stays clean.
I like your idea of making it a habit. Was almost thinking of getting a ?Remove Before Flight? steamer to attach to the hole when I have the drain plug out. So when I do my final checks it will stick out.

Well, can't have it all. Although, you can pour it out slowly in a thin stream and hit that stream with an air compressor blowgun. Just make sure to record for our amusement and to send to them with a note saying, "And you said it couldn't be sprayed..." Who knows, they may get a huge laugh out of it and send you a free gallon.

LOL, I can see that being a huge mess. Maybe they would take pitty on me?..

Yeah, we've launched ours a whopping three times... Then spent a good chunk of our boating season fixing it up.

I'm now far more qualified to help someone fix their engine than I am to advise them on how to actually operate a boat...

Boating is a labor of love with a mistress that hates you. You work tiredly to make her beautiful and shine, then when you want her she dies on you and laughs!!!!!

 

[SHSU]

You have to do the patch on the outside, otherwise it will raise the height of the brace and the holes won't line up. Also if there's an impact in the area it has a solid surface to absorb it rather than the weakened section.

Man I am glad I have ya'll to help me with this. It helps to bounce ideas off others!!! THANKS

 

[classiccat]

Man that is nice work!!! Want to do mine????

I was thinking about doing it from the inside, but after seeing yours, I don't see any issue with doing it from outside like that. I noticed you riveted your knee brace in, is that supposed to be how its installed? Mine was bolted in, don't know if by the previous owner or not. I am taking my knee brace to a welder sometime this week to get them to beef it up.

What gauge/thickness of aluminum did you use for the patch?

Why soap? Is it to keep me from overheating the aluminum? If so that is a nice tidbit of knowledge.

The only bolts on the knee brace should be the ones that go through transom wood into the upper tabs. Anything else was likely a PO hack.

I recall those patches being of 14 gauge. The soap burns before the Al melts

 

[SHSU]

The only bolts on the knee brace should be the ones that go through transom wood into the upper tabs. Anything else was likely a PO hack.

I recall those patches being of 14 gauge. The soap burns before the Al melts

Somehow that doesn't surprise me now. After all the hack jobs I have found makes me wonder if this boat was ever sea worthy... Makes me cringe thinking about it. Thanks for that tip. I will definitely be using it when I do that part of the project.

 

[82rude]

SHSU Per our talk on spraying fasco ive been thinking .Since ive bought the bedliner last night i was reading about it and you can spray it with a bedliner spray gun,or as its also called a shotts gun.So if you can spray bedliner or undercoating why not fasco?I just might see if my buddy has the schutz gun and give it a try.The bedliner i used was just as thick as the gluvit epoxy If your doing a large area such as the inside of you boat it could be a huge time saver and the guns are actually cheap compared to buying a good paint spray gun.Tooltown or harbor freight would be where id look for them.

 

[82rude]

Went and bought my own Schutz gun and can.Total cost 28 cnd.I will try it out on the fasco this weekend or monday.

 

[EchoNovember]

Boating is a labor of love with a mistress that hates you. You work tiredly to make her beautiful and shine, then when you want her she dies on you and laughs!!!!!

Truer words never spoken...

 

[SHSU]

SHSU Per our talk on spraying fasco ive been thinking .Since ive bought the bedliner last night i was reading about it and you can spray it with a bedliner spray gun,or as its also called a shotts gun.So if you can spray bedliner or undercoating why not fasco?I just might see if my buddy has the schutz gun and give it a try.The bedliner i used was just as thick as the gluvit epoxy If your doing a large area such as the inside of you boat it could be a huge time saver and the guns are actually cheap compared to buying a good paint spray gun.Tooltown or harbor freight would be where id look for them.

Knowing the guns that HF has they won't work for this type of product without some serious thinning. Very interested to see how this works for you. I will be following your thread carefully. If it works well, I will be using it as well!!!!!

 

[SHSU]

The Admiral and I are still riveting.... Since we are doing the bottom. Built a temporary cradle to support the boat. I added some right angle supports later. I will need to add some more for additional support. A little unnerving to be underneath and seeing it sway while the admiral is moving around above



Boat on the cradle


For those that have been curious about whats under a rib.... Nothing spectacular, but it does allow for access to rivet the sides as well. We skipped over those during the initial side riveting, because we knew we would be removing the ribs and it makes it so much easier.


Underside of a rib


I didn't get a picture of it, but i located a pin hole, a patch of pitting and some keel damage while underneath. I will try and get some pics for ya'll when I am back underneath.

Won't be able to get much more done this week with everything that is going on; however, Admiral and I are going to try and do a big push one of these weekends and knockout the last 10 ribs. Took us 5 hours to get setup, do some pre riveting (On strakes) and then 3 ribs. We figure a weekend of dedicated riveting will get us through and finished!!!!!

 

[Watermann]

If there was such an award, you and your admiral would have it hands down for the most solid rivets driven in a resto. Wow, my SS only needed a few hundred by my hands, hope you're keeping a tally.

 

[SHSU]

If there was such an award, you and your admiral would have it hands down for the most solid rivets driven in a resto. Wow, my SS only needed a few hundred by my hands, hope you're keeping a tally.

LOL thanks, I think the award is covered under "WHAT WERE YOU THINKING"!!! :lol:

I purchased 2000 3/16 and 100 1/4. After we have completed it, I will count how many I have left, if any....

Do you know if there are any places that Pop rivets were used instead of solid rivets? Some of the rivets on the gunwale seem like they would be next to impossible to buck.

 

[SHSU]

@jbcurt00

Can you please move this thread to the Starcraft Rebuild forum?
Thanks

SHSU

 

[Watermann]

@jbcurt00

Can you please move this thread to the Starcraft Rebuild forum?
Thanks

SHSU

Normally that hyperlinks the name jbcurt00

 

[82rude]

SHSU your close but you dont win for the most rivets though My brother might have a claim at an 18 foot springbok!All of them ,every stinkin one!

 

[SHSU]

Normally that hyperlinks the name jbcurt00

Thanks, I wondered about that. I probably broke something?.. LOL

SHSU your close but you dont win for the most rivets though My brother might have a claim at an 18 foot springbok!All of them ,every stinkin one!

How long did it take him to redo his? Do you know how many he replaced? Glad I am not the only one that has ever done an entire boat :watermelon:

 

[82rude]

If i remember right it was several days and lots of earplugs.Being and ironworker he was use to that kind of stuff.Cant tell you how many rivets but a ton of them.I dont have anybody to help me so the few rivets i replaced were blind 3/16 What with fasco on both sides i dont see an issue.