1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

[Gspec]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Awesome project, great thread! I may just set the computer down for a second and go mess with mine for awhile. Look forward to seeing yours progress!

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

T-Bone, I haven't had my trailer out from under the boat yet, but the manufacturer's site says it's about 1,000 pounds. There was probably 500 lbs of water that drained out slowly or was vacuumed out over a few weeks, and the wet foam was maybe another 500. The wood that I tore out must have contained a couple hundred pounds of extra 'ballast' in water as well.

My truck has a 9,800 lb towing capacity, and the trip home felt "very heavy". My axles probably ought to be a tad farther forward. The tongue weight on that rig is pretty high, even with the boat gutted. I think it ought to balance a little better.

I'd check Toyota's specs for your truck and make sure you're rated for 8,000+ lbs of towing and that you can handle 1,000 to 1,500 pounds of tongue weight. If not, or if the trip home is longer than 10 miles, you may want to rent a truck from Hertz or convince a buddy with a 3/4 ton to 'go on an adventure' with you.

Good luck with your project. Can't wait to follow your progress!

 

[Tboner7864]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

GWPSR

Thank you for getting back so soon, I found the boat in (Boat Manufacturers) I have a 1978 Victoria Sunbridge
I did some research on my truck yesterday I have to tow it about 200 miles. My truck will not do it. We were going to pull it out with my truck and put it in storage less than a mile away. Let it dry maybe get the motor out of it and the outdrive
I have some friends that have a Toyota Tundra that like adventure. The boat definitely has water in it but it floats. Again I appreciate you giving all this info i will definitely by posting my progress and following yours and asking advice and expertize. Thanks again

Tbone

 

[T748]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Tbone- I think your boat is definitely too big for the Tundra. What part of northern california are you planning to make the tow in? I would be comfortable with a 3/4 ton truck if your rolling it down 5. If it's up in the mountains I'd want a 1 ton pickup. Thats a BIG boat! BTW when you get it home post a bunch of pictures. Man I'm feeling undersized with all these 27 footers onboard! -Tom.

 

[Tboner7864]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Hey Tom

I am towing the boat from Fort Bragg Ca to Stirling City Ca which is above paradise ca. I figure once I get the boat out of the water. I will take the motor out and the out drive and dry it out as much as possible before I decide to bring it home. Didn't i see a commercial where a Stock Tundra towing the Space Shuttle Endeavor?http://forums.iboats.com/images/smilies/lol.gif. I'll know more once I get it out. Thanks for your concern Tom I will definitely do this safe. I do a lot of towing in my job. I will be posting pictures Before and during and after

Tbone

 

[Tboner7864]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Hey GWPSR

Is it possible you could measure your trailer for me from the bow bumper to the rear guesstimate does not have to be exact and maybe the width, well i noticed part of your hull overlaps the fenders maybe just the width from the edge hull overlapping to the other side. I am getting ready to pull the boat I got out of the water. The marina that has this boat also has the trailer they think goes with it I could take your measurements and check out the trailer before I try to pull it out to make sure the trailer does indeed belong to this boat. I would appreciate any info showing the rails the boat sits on your trailer or any more pictures. Thanks again for your help

Tbone

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Sure. Yes, the bunks have been built double height on this trailer because the chines are wider than the wheels/fenders on the trailer. I'll take some measurements and pics.

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

It measures 24' 8" from the winch post to the tail of the trailer. The bunks are 12' long and also end right at the tail. There is 8' of tongue between the hitch and winch post, The width between bunks is 6' 4", and they are directly on the frame rails of the trailer. The boat overhangs about 5 1/2" on each side.

 

[ormjgrouch]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

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[mfsb]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

T-bone. I have a ford f350. I can tow almost anything and live up in victorville. It is a bit of a drive away, however you pay for gas and I will make the trip with ya, could be fun. BW, your boat dwarfs that trailer, but is an awesome project.

 

[Tboner7864]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

GWPSR

Thank you very much I feel confident that the marina has the right trailer for this boat but i will take these measurements with me and check see and the pictures you sent. I will be taking pictures of the boat this weekend and then post them for all to see when I get back Thanks again GWPSR

Tbone

Thanks for the offer mfsb for now i am going to leave the boat out in Fort Bragg and better assess things before i attempt to bring it home. I have it set up to be stored for now and to let it dry out.

 

[Lwarden]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Are those all 2x6's for the legs and beam and 2x4's for cross bracing??? and it held the weight of that engine? what size engine is that?

I built a gantry today to winch the engine out of the boat:

Tomorrow I'll begin the process of disconnecting everything, and hopefully get it on the engine stand by the end of the day.

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Are those all 2x6's for the legs and beam and 2x4's for cross bracing??? and it held the weight of that engine? what size engine is that?

Yep. No issues. 5.7L SBC. The exhaust manifolds, risers and starter were off the block before extraction, and I left the flywheel cover in the transom assembly.

 

[Lwarden]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

I HAVE A 5.7 MERCRUISER and I have been looking at different gantries on here but none that look as simple as yours though, and the rear of my boat is high too I'd say about 5.5 ft off the ground and I have a power winch also. And you had no issues with sagging in the middle with the one 2x8? how wide is that at the top? mine will be about 10'

Yep. No issues. 5.7L SBC. The exhaust manifolds, risers and starter were off the block before extraction, and I left the flywheel cover in the transom assembly.

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

I HAVE A 5.7 MERCRUISER and I have been looking at different gantries on here but none that look as simple as yours though, and the rear of my boat is high too I'd say about 5.5 ft off the ground and I have a power winch also. And you had no issues with sagging in the middle with the one 2x8? how wide is that at the top? mine will be about 10'

There was slight flex, but it was absorbed by the angle braces transferring most of it to the tall legs. If I had to redesign it, I'd flip the legs the other direction so they were stiffer side-to-side. They are tied together with the cross-brace after all. And increasing the height dimension of the beam might have reduced the "cross your fingers" quotient a little.

There's about 7' of span between the uprights (they are angle inward), but only 2 1/2 or 3' between the braces.

The other alteration I think I'd make would be to make the "A" wider at the bottom. I lifted the engine and drove the boat out from under it. It would have been really handy to have had casters on it and done the opposite, but it's not steady enough vertically for that as it is.

I envy these guys with the huge shops and overhead cranes or hoists though.

 

[Tboner7864]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Once upon a time in the year 1978 there was a baby who was born and at the same time so was a boat, by the name of Blue Grandma through time these two grew older. But destine to unite. 34 trips around the sun and they meet. Blue Grandma has been road hard and put away wet. But I found her and am drying her out I pulled her plug and she flowed. For now she is safe away from the abuse of past relationships and on her way to recovery. I will treat her with the respect she deserves, and one day she will shine and be loved and when she is born again she will have a new name. NOT BLUE GRANDMA. What a terrible name. that will be the first change to the boat. But not bad for $10 to the marina and $230 in back taxes and it came with a trailer for a total of $250. The motor and out drive are shot but 350 Chevy's are easy to find it has a volvo penta outdrive with two propellers

GWPSR


Well, It fit on the trailer and bringing it out of the water it broke its winch but it did not slip off the trailer the weight was mostly on the trailer. I will have to add one thickness of 2X6 to the bunks because the boat is sitting right on the fenders for now I put it in storage and pulled the plug to drain the boat. Here are some pictures of the boat and my truck the harbormaster could not believe that my truck pulled it out like nothing. The boat dwarfed my truck as you can see.




I definitely have my work cut out for me. It fit on the trailer just like yours over lapping the fenders GWPSR the next time i get out there I will take more pictures. Thanks again for all your help and advice. I will be keeping in touch for more of your expertise. and to see your ongoing progress. I hoping to get it home in the next couple of months and start my demo.

 

[T748]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

What a deal! The Duoprop drive alone is worth some good coin. It looks like you have the start of a great project. Start a thread so we can all follow along. Let's see some interior shots too. I can't wait to see how Not Blue Grandma comes out! -Tom.

 

[GWPSR]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

TBone, I'll follow your progress in your resto thread! I agree, Blue Grandma as a name is likely what doomed this poor girl. Search for Friscoboater Jay's thread about renaming a boat. There's a ceremony for abandoning the original name, and another for rechristening it with a new one later. You can probably do the un-naming deal right at the marina. Be prepared to remove the current name before the officiations though.

Congrats!

 

[Hoosmatroos]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Subscribing.... Boat porn

+1 here. Great project and love your style

 

[gwpjr]

Re: 1981 Bayliner Victoria 2750 - Restore or Bust

Blue Grandma has been road hard and put away wet. But I found her and am drying her out I pulled her plug and she flowed. For now she is safe away from the abuse of past relationships and on her way to recovery.

Oh, my!

On a more serious note: I don't think that the average boat enthusiast realizes how light these boats actually are. 5500 lbs is closer to what a lot of newer 22ft cuddy cabin boats weigh. I've seen videos of these being launched and retrieved by Jeep Wranglers. Long distance towing is the only thing I'd worry about, but mostly because of the cross section. Heck, even my tinny feels like I'm towing a billboard when the wind get's gusty.