1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

marcusknight

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I have a 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot near where I put my smaller engine. Looking for a way to fix this. I was thinking of cutting out the rotted area and manufacturing a piece of wood to take its place. The rot seems to be about 4 by 2 inches at the top of the transom on the port side. Any bright ideas?

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CheapboatKev

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

I would think that the amount of work involved to fix this area, which would be pulling the transom wood out, cutting out the cancer and scabbing in a section..

You may as well cut new wood, seal her up with epoxy and know you are good for another 25 years..

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boatnut74

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

I agree with Kev there. You could have that transom replaced in a weekend. If you have so rot up high I'm sure you have some near the bottom as well.
 

glnbnz

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

I agree...I had what I thought was just a little rot and had to remove my deck and most of the stringers to get the rot out on my boat...I don't have much experience with boats but from what I do have and what I have read on here it is definitely better to be safe than sorry.

You are in the right place though for great advice and expertise :)

Good luck with whatever you decide to do
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Yep, not to pile on, but a full transom replacement on an outboard Starcraft is so not a big deal, there's just no point in doing any less. Get yourself a sheet of 3/4" ply and have at it.
 

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

One more vote to do the whole transom, Marcus. You'll be kicking yourself if you don't.
 

boatnut74

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

What model of Starcraft are we working with?
 

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

BN - I looked at his profile and I believe it's a 16 ft. SS.
 

marcusknight

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

How the heck do you replace a whole transom? There would seem to be a million rivets to take out and reinstall on this thing. Wouldnt I have to take off that whole back panel? Sounds like a monumental pain in the ***.
 

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Marcus - It is so easy even a caveman could do it. Now I'm guessing you have a 16 ft. SS with an outboard. Right?

Basically you take the cap off the transom - small nails usually, take off the end caps - 2/3 rivets per cap, remove all the hardware off outside of the transom, remove the screws under the splash well to the transom, remove the nuts/bolts holding the knee brace to the transom and finally pull the transom wood straight up. I might have missed something.

Look here for all the Starcraft restos Some of the guys replaced transom wood, some didn't. It really isn't as hard as it sounds.

Prepping the plywood to go back in isn't difficult either. We'll keep on course. Look through some of the SS restos, I wish I could remember who re-did their transoms.

EDIT - Marcus, I forgot to say that when we replace the transom it's only the wood, not the aluminum. Sorry for the confusion, buddy.
 

86 century

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

the only thing you take off from out side is the trim.

the bolts down the side
about two dozen screws from the splash well

If you lay down and look under the splashwell you can see all the hardware that hast to come out.

Good luck the people here love thier starcrafts so the will give you all the info and help you could ever need.
 

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CheapboatKev

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

The entire wood peice that you need to replace LIFTS out, the outer skin is not removed.
Come on over to the dar....errrr I mean Starcraft section, you'll be good!
 

marcusknight

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Thanks, But how about lifting a 70 horse Johnson off, I haven't done that before either.
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Thanks, But how about lifting a 70 horse Johnson off, I haven't done that before either.

Again, surprisingly not that big a deal. Disconnect the steering, control, and electrical cables attach a cheap harbor freight come-along to the lifting ring under the hood, tighten it up, remove the mounting bolts, and lift it off. Just let it hang there while you do the transom. I hung mine from a sturdy 2x4 shelf in the back of my garage. It weighs a little less than 300lbs. Here's mine hanging http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w200/ezmobee/New Boat/DSCF2257.jpg
 

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

The rot will always be larger than what it originally looks like. I have a 3x3 inch hole in the transom on my i/o but found when it was out that it was also in other areas as well.

Take a good look at some other the other Starcraft threads where they have done the same work as yours and take advantage of the tips and tricks the guys have found. In the end you'll me slightly inconvenienced with the work but will feel much better about the boat in the long run.
 

marcusknight

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Thank you all for answering me a few questions several months ago. I would like to ask a few more.

1. How big of a pain in the butt is it to lift off a 1979 Johnson 70 horse engine? Do I have to find a lift ring for this, or does this have something to do with the flywheel?

2. Several posts have told me there arent any rivets to take out on this boat. But I do see some on the corner caps. What kind are these and how would you get them out?

3. For those of you who have this type of starcraft, was it a pain in the butt to take out the splash guard? Any rivets there?

4. As for the linkage on my Johnson engine for the steering, starter, and throttle, How difficult is it to remove the linkage and reattach it? Anything to watch out for?

5. In general what was the most difficult part of this project, and what was the easiest?
 

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Re: 1979 StarCraft with a small area of transom rot

Hey Marcus, In my opninion it is an easy job now, but when I did my first one I was like you a little skeptical and overwelmed. I'm not sure but I think the 70 has a metal lifing eye bolted to the top of the motor that is for lifting it off. If not that 70 is not very heavy, a couple strong guys can bear hug it to get it off.
Disconnect the battery, Undo the throttle and shift cable, and wiring harness plug under the hood, take off the fuel line and if it has power trim and tilt you will have to undo those wires in the black box under the splashwell( make sure you mark them where they go) Undo the nut on the steering arm on the port side of the motor and lift the arm out of the steering cable end. Undo the large nut on the starboard side of the motor that attaches the cable to the motor, the cable will pull out when you lift the motor off.
Take the curved trim piece off the top of the transom that runs full width, by removing the small ring nails on the inside and the out side. The corner caps are held on with pop rivets, drill them out with a 3/16"drill bit, be carefull with the corner caps as they are fragile and pricey. Now take a drill with a phillips bit under the splash well and remove the huge handfull of screws that fasten it to the transom.
All tou have left to do is remove the bolts that go though the transom from the outside, it will take a helper to hold the screws from the out side and one on the inside under the splash well to take the nuts off. If the boat is only used in fresh water you may even be able to reuse the bolts. There will be 4 or 6 bolts that come though and bolt to your knee brace( the angled aluminum piece that runs up from the bottom of the boat to the transom) check it for cracks at the top where those bolts come through. All that is left now is the splash well drains, the brass tubes that go though the transom to let the water out, from the inside take a chisel or old screw driver and fold the edge in all the way around so you can hammer them out the back. Under the corner brackets there is the top of the aluminum gunwal that covers the transom, you can either bend it up or cut it off to pull the transom out. You will also have to drill out the two rivets that hold the HIN number plate on the starboard corner as they go into the transom. The transom will now lift out with some force. If you still have solid wood in the center put in a couple of strong eye bolts to lift with.

You will need 1 sheet of good quality 3/4"ply, a lot use Arucca from Lowes, Spar varnish or epoxy to seal the new transom, Gorrila glue to glue the two sheets together, a couple of plastic replacment splash well drains, 3M 5200 marines sealant a few 3/16 by 3/4 aluminum/aluminum pop rivets and a poprivet gun, and various wood working tools and a couple days.

Hope that helps.
Glen
 
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