1976 Tom Boy Boat, 1976 40 HP Johnson Outboard and who knows what Trailer

Pusher

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Glad to hear you're doing well and faired the storm alright! It's easy to take the Pacific Northwest for grantsd until I hear about such things.

Don't sweat the boat. If you didn't keep the missus happy, you would never finish the boat. Some things are more important :)
 

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I thought I was only going to take one summer off boating while I worked on my Century but next summer will be season missed #3 so I feel your pain. I just thought you were stalling to give me time to catch up and make me feel better lol.
 

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I thought I was only going to take one summer off boating while I worked on my Century but next summer will be season missed #3 so I feel your pain. I just thought you were stalling to give me time to catch up and make me feel better lol.

Ha, could I use that reason for my not finishing my little tri-hull miniscule boat project? I could work that reason in I'm sure. :facepalm:

And to think I had all good intentions to complete this boat in a couple months when I started. And I bet a lot of other boaters had similar ideas as well. But then we didn't factor in real life. :eek:
 

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I am about 14 months over budget now and ticking. As Forest would say "Life happens".
 

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NADA has book values for boats on their website. nadaguides.com then "boats" at the top of the page.
 

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Well something must have come over me today. I actually sanded out the rest of the hull with the DA and 320 grit. Of course there are sand through(s) and some pin holes showing...still, but I did get some work accomplished on the boat. And if the weather keeps nice like it is today, I could even get this hull painted soon. We had mid 70's today and predicted the same for a couple more days too. I would post pictures, but it still looks like the primer pictures I've posted before. So until I get something new or of interest, I won't post pictures of the same things.
 

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Okay another update. I don't know what's happening, but I worked on the boat again today. Hope this keeps up.

The weather was again in the mid 70's today, so I hand sanded the hull with wet 400. And boy does that hull feel smooth now. BUT, I still have sand throughs AND those pesky pin holes. But I have a new idea to fix them. Instead of using spot putty, and/or rattle can spray primer to try and fill them, I am going to mix up some serious two part primer, that I sprayed twice now on the hull, and use a small paint brush to see if I can fill those pin holes for good. Seems spraying isn't filing them up for some reason. Almost like it avoids the pin holes. So I will force catalyzed primer into them and fill them. Then wet sand and tape off for paint. We will see.
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Here is a picture just after I finished wet sanding with 400. Yes it looks very shiny, but that is because the water hasn't dried yet. But the finished gloss should equal that or better.
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Another shot. You can see the sand throughs as well.
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And a shot from the transom looking forward. And more sand throughs

The sand throughs don't bother me as much as the pin holes. With quality paint, sand throughs will cover without issues, but the pin holes won't. I am still contemplating if I want to shoot another primer coat after I get the pin holes filled and then wet sand with 400 again. Maybe spot primer and wet sand. I really haven't decided yet. Hopefully more to come if I can keep at it until finished. Crappie spawning season is just around the corner...again! :eek:
 

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I just finished using some 3M spot putty on some pin holes. And I didn't use the usual 180, or 220 grit sand paper to sand them out. I used 400 wet and the are coming out perfect. So maybe all this time I was literally sanding out the putties I was using to fill in the pin holes. Using the higher grit wet sanding technique seem to be doing the job. So a lesson learned. :cheer2:
 

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Uhmm IMHO and experience it's not a good idea to sand primer down to 400 grit. It doesn't leave enug BITE for the Color coat and causes poor adhesion at times. That's just what I was taught. I know you've done your share of painting soooo...I'll leave it to ya!!!! The technique you're using is similar to what the Gelcoat guys do to fill pin holes. Instead of spraying it they use a bondo spreader and pull it across the area to fill the holes. Works Great!!;)
 

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Uhmm IMHO and experience it's not a good idea to sand primer down to 400 grit. It doesn't leave enug BITE for the Color coat and causes poor adhesion at times. That's just what I was taught. I know you've done your share of painting soooo...I'll leave it to ya!!!! The technique you're using is similar to what the Gelcoat guys do to fill pin holes. Instead of spraying it they use a bondo spreader and pull it across the area to fill the holes. Works Great!!;)

I understand your questioning. I have painted cars before and used 400 with them and they all came out looking great. But this is my first boat paint job, so maybe things are different with boats IDK.

I have read and watched a few more videos about dealing with pin holes. And one idea I really like is using a razor blade to apply the spot putty, Archbuilder even suggested that idea as well. That does sound like a great idea and I am going to use that today. And if this weather continues, I do see a painted hull soon. :whistle:

Patfromny, I hope the trend stays with me to complete this now. It has been so many long years and really needs to come to an end now. So many thing happen along the way and between serious life events and typical "have to do's", it doesn't happen like you initially plan so many times. :doh:
 

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GM the 400 will be fine. DuPont recommends around 400 for the paint I used on Fuggly and Miss Morgan. If you go to something like 180 you will be really sad. The sanding scratches will stick out like a sore thumb. Automotive paints like that finer grit, seems like everything else likes courser grits like Wood noted.
 

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GM the 400 will be fine. DuPont recommends around 400 for the paint I used on Fuggly and Miss Morgan. If you go to something like 180 you will be really sad. The sanding scratches will stick out like a sore thumb. Automotive paints like that finer grit, seems like everything else likes courser grits like Wood noted.

Yes arch, I was thinking that the PPG sheets suggest 400 and even some go to 600 or 800. But for this hull, 400 looks perfect to me. I just hope the finish isn't too bad once I convince myself to stop picking at it and paint. Seem you can always find something to rework when preparing for paint...at least I do. But at some time you have to say enough already and go to the paint. :noidea:
 

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I have to say this, using a razor blade to apply the spot putty is the absolutely the best way I've used yet. It fills, or seems to fill, the pin holes and uses the least amount of putty are the same time. So drying/curing time is substantially reduced and once I sand, I will be able to go over any areas I've missed the first time around or that needs a second fill. I will post a few pictures later about he it works. :thumb:
 

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It's the constant abrasion from the water that I think necessitates the better adhesion properties. I dunno!!
 
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