1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Huron Angler

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Nice work, looks good to me, you've got enough room out back for a huge swim platform with enough room for the whole crew.:)

It would be really sweet to get the full ladder/rail setup that the huge Starcraft cuddies came with. Makes a good casting platform when the seas are calm in Saginaw bay too:D

That's one thing I am keeping an eye out for, a nice teak swim platform/ladder for my starboard side.
 

jasoutside

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That sure looks like alot of "taking out the trash" and "recycling sorting" you got up to there :D......nice work.

Yah, I had to go out for a "smoke break" too. Never smoked ciggeretts in my entire life but though it might buy me some time today anyway.

Nice work, looks good to me, you've got enough room out back for a huge swim platform with enough room for the whole crew.:)

It would be really sweet to get the full ladder/rail setup that the huge Starcraft cuddies came with. Makes a good casting platform when the seas are calm in Saginaw bay too:D

That's one thing I am keeping an eye out for, a nice teak swim platform/ladder for my starboard side.

Yah, I actually have a really nice full length stainless grab rail and a fold down swim ladder swiped from Thumper the Baja that would be perfect for a swim platform. Maybe a winter of 2011/2012 project to build a setup like that.

I often see nice teak ones that would be cool on your rig - eBay mostly.
 

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Well, not much progress on the rig lately. I did get the transom rubrail installed. That was a pretty good feeling considering the last time it was on there was a foot of snow on the ground.:)

I have been plotting and scheming what my next moves will be.

Had a light bulb head slapper moment this morning as I was lighting the daily fire. I figured out how I can heat my garage with a little duct work mod, a little time and no $$. Sweet!:D
 

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Since I'm not working on the Merc to much at this point I thought I'd swap out my avatar with a photo of me hanging out with my iboats buds on the weekend.:D
 

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I like the avatar Jas. I would do the same but somehow I am depicted as a female so I don't really want that as a signature.:mad: I just know Kev was the source of that, but at least I'm in the mob.:rolleyes:
 

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^^^yah but a tough ol lady at that!

First up, here is a quick shot of the rub rail installed since I neglected to put one up earlier...
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Got a few minutes on the rig tonight!

First up, I pulled out the ol LP heater. Hopefully I can get that ductwork rigged up quick so I'm not spending too much on propane to run this. A bit dirty compared to dj's new beauty...
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I think it was in the 30's outside but we were working in tshirts within about 10 minutes...
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I've been stewing on it some and have decided to just use the single 33 gallon fuel tank rather than the dual tank set up I was thinking before (for a total of 61 gallons). I think it will be extremely rare that I will actually need that kind of fuel on board, especially since this boat will live on a trailer.

I am thinking there are a bunch of advantages too. I'll have that 28 gallon tank for a future project, less weight in the Islander, more storage space, a lot less money invested in hoses/clamps/fittings, a lot less work to run plumbing/electrical, and more space for flotation.

So having said that, here is what I started with from what I hacked out before...
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Made some cuts with the grinder/cutting wheel...
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I then slid her in place, perfect fit!
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This will all be covered with sealed up wood and looking goon in the end.
 

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I'll have access to all the important stuff inside the bow hatch plus space for flotation and storage...
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You can see a big pool of Gluvit in between my feet there. I dumped a bunch in an effort to seal up a tiny seeper leak.

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(had my little man Ryan hanging out with me there, he rocks)

Pretty happy with how all this will shake out!

I grabbed a piece of the deck I ripped out last winter for a quick test fit...
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With this belly tank in there my deck will be just a fraction of an inch higher. Probably just enough where I won't need to cut those scallops out for the ribs. I'll also lose that step down portion to get into the cabin area. AOK by me!

Here is a shot from underneath just for the heck of it...
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Cheers!!:D
 

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That tank fits very well up there, one of the many advantages of having a 22' deep V hull. If it sounds like I want one and I am experiencing 6-footitis that would be correct:D

Based on my remedial math I would guess you might have a cruising range of over 125 miles. Which is plenty for getting all over Saginaw Bay and enough to complete the inland waterway as well.:cool:

That is assuming you will get about 4mpg, it might be even better than that being a fairly lighweight boat and all. Also if you are trolling with a small kicker you can cover way more water for far less coin.

Nice work, and getting the family involved too:)
 

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That's nice that your tank has all the fittings and sender all at one end. My floor originally had an access panel the size of the tank which made the floor kind of chopped up. I'm thinking of covering the tank with the new floor and having small access doors of some kind for the filler connection, which is at one end, sender, which is in the middle, and fuel pickup which is at the other end. Glad yours is working out well.

I have to laugh at how we all watch each other. When I mentioned the whole ordeal about overdrill-fill-redrill for the transom holes you said you didn't think you were going to go to all the trouble. I pondered some and thought, "maybe he's right", I could save some time. Next thing I know your overdrilling, filling, and redrilling your transom (which came out very nice). Now I have to change my mind again!!! I must keep up with the "jas's" :D
 

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That tank fits very well up there, one of the many advantages of having a 22' deep V hull. If it sounds like I want one and I am experiencing 6-footitis that would be correct:D

Based on my remedial math I would guess you might have a cruising range of over 125 miles. Which is plenty for getting all over Saginaw Bay and enough to complete the inland waterway as well.:cool:

Nice work, and getting the family involved too:)

Yah man, she fits perfect up there! I'll tie the whole setup together with the hatch boxes/deck so it's nice and strong.

I definitely think you should have a big boat:D Wonder if Santa might have one in his bag for you buddy!

I think that tank should be plenty for about 90% of what I plan to do, the other 10%, I'll figure it out.

I let Ryan help me fire up the heater, he was pumped!

That's nice that your tank has all the fittings and sender all at one end. My floor originally had an access panel the size of the tank which made the floor kind of chopped up. I'm thinking of covering the tank with the new floor and having small access doors of some kind for the filler connection, which is at one end, sender, which is in the middle, and fuel pickup which is at the other end. Glad yours is working out well.

I have to laugh at how we all watch each other. When I mentioned the whole ordeal about overdrill-fill-redrill for the transom holes you said you didn't think you were going to go to all the trouble. I pondered some and thought, "maybe he's right", I could save some time. Next thing I know your overdrilling, filling, and redrilling your transom (which came out very nice). Now I have to change my mind again!!! I must keep up with the "jas's" :D

Yah, I am really happy that all the business is down on the one end to fit in that bow hatch.

You could use something about like this for access hatches on your rig...

http://www.iboats.com/Seadog-Watert...46425745--**********.709858819--view_id.39787

Ah, I just wanted to skip those overdrill/fill/drill steps and get moving as it's taking me so long to get this big girl back together. I am glad I took the time, piece of mind you know. If I were to do it over again I would have built the transom, dry fit, over drill, THEN seal everything up with epoxy, then install the transom. That would have saved a little time anyway.

Dude, anybody could "keep up" with me. I am at sloth pace! A slow one at that!:D
 

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Thanksgiving has always been my most favorite time of the year. Family, food, giving thanks, and reflecting on the Bounty of Life!

This year seems so much more special to me!



I hope you and yours have a fantastic Thanksgiving!



OK, pass the turkey:D:D:D
 

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I don't want to be critical,...

But,.............

And this is just more of a observation and question,...

So here goes,....

If the fuel pickup is towards the bow of the boat, Won't you lose the ability to get fuel as the tank goes down,...And especially when on plane and getting low on fuel???

Other than that it looks great,.....And makes me wish I had one to work on,...
 

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I don't want to be critical,...

But,.............

And this is just more of a observation and question,...

So here goes,....

If the fuel pickup is towards the bow of the boat, Won't you lose the ability to get fuel as the tank goes down,...And especially when on plane and getting low on fuel???

Other than that it looks great,.....And makes me wish I had one to work on,...

There shouldn't be any issues.The engine has a fuel pump and the primer bulb will get the fuel to the engine.The only issues will be if there is a hole in the line or a loose connection some where allowing air to be sucked into the line.Quite a few boats come with bow tanks from the factory.
 

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J just a note on what was said above about the tank's pick up if a boat spends a majority of it's time with the bow elevated and if there was a instance where you were low on fuel wouldn't an issue occur of fuel not getting to the pick up? just a thought. happy thanx giving
 

jasoutside

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Well rats!

Yah ben, I believe that fanny and teamster have a great point there.

Riding swells while trolling for salmon or hauling up a kid on a wakeboard - along with low fuel means the pickup tube will be out of gas (momentarily at least).

Fittings need to be on the low side not the high side - how the heck did I not think of that before!

Ah, I think I was just jazzed that it fit so well up there and took my eye off the ball. Bummer!

I'll have to set a meeting with the architect and draw up some new blue prints. Well, at least he is cheap!

Thanks guys, I am glad you pitched in there! Much appreciated!



I am still full from yesterday, man that was gooooooood stuff!:D:D:):)

Love Thanksgiving!
 

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Is it possible to attach a rubber fuel line hose to the end of the pick up and have the other end toward the low end of the tank? Jas I like your idea and now I'm wondering if mine would fit...
Goody, just another thing I can play with today.:D I know I don't have the clearance you do though. Good work bud.
 

jasoutside

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Is it possible to attach a rubber fuel line hose to the end of the pick up and have the other end toward the low end of the tank?

I was just out there doing some measuring and was wondering the same thing. Great minds think alike??:D

That would surely do the trick if I can pull that off! I wonder if I can fit my hand through the sender hole???

Hmmmmmm....
 

jasoutside

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Got it figured...

Pulled it out, turned it around, pushed it forward. Fits perfect! Didn't think it would.

I'll need to build a lift out deck in there which is just fine as that was my original plan anyway.

Man, after all that I think I need a turkey sandwich;):D
 

Teamster

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Your family's safety was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the pics of the forward fuel pickups,....

I thought about the hose in the tank idea as well,....I'm not sure about that, My concern would be the hose breaking down over time and sucking a bit of hose into the hose thus starving the motor for gas,...

When I redid my little boat I spent a great deal of time focusing on the "worst case scenario" situations,...

Of course I have also been accused of over thinking things as well!!!,...
 
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