1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

[talltx]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Good morning Jas. You said," Well, that one there looks like it's actually made to sit flat I think".You're right, but couldn't it also be used the other way? You wouldn't be able to get the full 5 gal. in there because of the filler location but the outlet would be on the bottom side where you would want it. I'm just sayin.


As for the dog house, That's a great idea to hinge the white part to tilt forward. That way it wouldn't put stress on the stern deck. On the down side, you would have more weight and bulk to roll forward when you roll the whole thing. Somethin to think about. Did you get my PM? How do ya like my avitar? That's my boat!!

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

or how bout this one?http://www.ebay.com/itm/Molded-5-Gallon-Plastic-Fuel-Tank-Boat-Generator-RV-/110812027971?hash=item19cce95c43&item=110812027971&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Well now, hold the phone. I didn't see that outlet on the side there at first glance. Yah, you may be on to something, that may just work. Price is right too!

It might be a bit tall I'll need to take a couple of measurements...

Thanks!

(Yah, I like your new avatar! That rig looks easy to trailer.)

 

[ricohman]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Well, see, I have this issue in my head. I really don't like the weight being so high and to the outside of the boat. I really think big hunks of lead should be as low and close to the center line as possible.

Maybe I'm making more of it than I should, hmmm.

But! Thanks for posting up that photo!

That is exactly what I was thinking for the jump seats

Now, as for the storage compartments at the stern, I love them, big time! I'll need to take another look at my setup to see how much room I have to work with.

If I can fit reasonable sized compartments along with the rigging (especially the vent hoses) awesome. If I can fit compartments bit enough to house the batts, uh, hmm, I may just do that. Maybe.

That is a pic of the 2011 Islander 221 that I had my "demo" on. One battery on the left and space for another on the right. Plus storage.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

I woke up this morning with all your answers, Jason. But by the time the forums came back online, I forgot 'em. Sorry! All these fine tuning things can be frustrating. I bet you could go to Lowes, HD or Menards and look at generators and see that exact tank that Tex posted. That one has possibilities.

 

[Pugetsound]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The forum must be off due to the fact that I finally figured out someway to post Photos. LOL Pugetsound

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

The forum must be off due to the fact that I finally figured out someway to post Photos. LOL Pugetsound

So you're the one PS. I thought one more ethanol question tipped it over the edge.

 

[talltx]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

So you're the one PS. I thought one more ethanol question tipped it over the edge.

GA, that's funny right there!!!

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey jas,

One more thought .... You could just have one battery at the back for the 4.3 --- at point of use to save $$$ on expensive cabling, and a lawnmower or tractor gas tank on the otherside of the 4.3 at the back. Then have the second battery near the front for lighting etc also close to point of use. The battery and gas tank at the back should fit to allow for your vinyl curtain and the battery up front should not take up too much room..... Just chewin' on some thoughts for ya!!!

 

[Teamster]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey jas,

One more thought .... You could just have one battery at the back for the 4.3 --- at point of use to save $$$ on expensive cabling, and a lawnmower or tractor gas tank on the otherside of the 4.3 at the back. Then have the second battery near the front for lighting etc also close to point of use. The battery and gas tank at the back should fit to allow for your vinyl curtain and the battery up front should not take up too much room..... Just chewin' on some thoughts for ya!!!

+1,.........

That's even better than the other thing I was thinking would work,.....

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

That is a pic of the 2011 Islander 221 that I had my "demo" on.

Well, I suppose that demo went well as I know you wrote the check for one! Sweeeeet!

I woke up this morning with all your answers, Jason. But by the time the forums came back online, I forgot 'em. Sorry! All these fine tuning things can be frustrating. I bet you could go to Lowes, HD or Menards and look at generators and see that exact tank that Tex posted. That one has possibilities.

Yah, I have all the answers right when I wake up too. Then, I grab some coffee, spend a few minutes on iboats, and stare at the Islander - I'm totally lost then! I can't figure if I'm an OB guy or an IO guy?! Marine grade or exterior grade??!! Pour in foam or noodle guy!? Alum guy or a glass guy

Ah, just kidden, I'll get er figured!

The forum must be off due to the fact that I finally figured out someway to post Photos. LOL Pugetsound

That was a pretty big day puge

Hey jas,

One more thought .... You could just have one battery at the back for the 4.3 --- at point of use to save $$$ on expensive cabling, and a lawnmower or tractor gas tank on the otherside of the 4.3 at the back. Then have the second battery near the front for lighting etc also close to point of use. The battery and gas tank at the back should fit to allow for your vinyl curtain and the battery up front should not take up too much room..... Just chewin' on some thoughts for ya!!!

Thanks for swinging through IM!

I think I have it!

Check it out...

#1 Nothing goes in front of the doghouse. No batts, no fuel tank, no seat, no rod holders, extra deck space, less stuff to build. It's a compromise I suppose.

#2 I did some measuring and I should have the ability to build out those storage compartments like the photo rico posted up. I do love that set up! I can make them big enough to house a small fuel tank and batts if I choose to put them there. As it stands I'll only need to put the 2 stroke fuel tank back there which will leave some great space open for storage. This leads to...

#3 I have come full circle (again:facepalm and decided to place the batts at the port side helm storage area. There will always be a captain at the helm of this boat (dead weight, I've been called worse). The two batts should be totally fine there at the port side to offset the weight of the knuckle head driving this rig. Yah, I'll need to run long electrical lines, I'll get over it. If, in time, I hate this idea, I've still built the storage at the stern to place them there if it seems like a good/better move.

#4 Tackle will be stored at/in the starboard side seat boxes - seems to make sense there.

Having said all that, I started on building interior structure this morning. I'll post up later with that progress.

Thanks for staying with me fellas

 

[bear_69cuda]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

+1,.........

That's even better than the other thing I was thinking would work,.....

Yes the house battery in the cabin area would work, but myself would always want a battery that can be switched as reserve to start the engine in case of emergency. Disconnecting the house battery on big water if a storm came up, or trying to jump a possible dead cranking battery doesn't sound like fun... I'm chewin' as well...

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Good stuff jas... Sounds like you have a solid plan to move forward with. Boat = compromise. It's really just a matter of figuring out one you can live with!!!

Look forward to the pics....

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jason, I fiqured I would stand by and watch this discussion, knowing full well there were enough ideas for the right out come, good on ya.
Glen

 

[rheagler]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Glad to hear you've got a plan there Jason. It's always good to hear your ideas and options though, they do make for good reading and inspiration. Carry on!

 

[proshadetree]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Good plan to put batts on the opposite side of the driver. My baylinner was built to carry 2 behind the driver. Extreme list to that side. I moved the spare over to the opposite side and it almost leveled out. By the way good going on crashing the site over your pics. Have a good one man.

 

[Bwana Don]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

There's no way I'm offended, I owe no allegiance to any one boat brand/production philosophy, while I love my Baja (unique, to a degree) there are more than 10 different brands/styles I would own (yes, to include a SC!); however, I'm not much of a fisherman (I mean I can cuss and drink beer) and I own fishing gear (mostly to put on a front to the wife and kids early season, so I can take off to the lake w/o them). I just love boating and all things summer (camping, outdoors, hiking, etc...)

I'll wait patiently for you to splash your SC and share a long distance cheers to yet another fine restore...as one boat dies (R.I.P. Thumper) another is reborn.

That's beautiful man, I think I cried.

Glad to see you nixed the idea about putting anything in front of the doghouse jas. I don't think you would have been happy with that long term. Trying to keep up with your thread but, sooo busy with Zach. Karate, swimming, speech therapy, rubbing the wife's feet..... how do you do it with three kids???

Good luck bro. And yes I blame you and PS for crashing the site.

 

[talltx]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Good going Jas !!! I like a plan that provides for flexibility. I think you're gonna be happy with that design. Looking forward to seeing what you built today. Steady as she goes. Cheerio

 

[Triton II]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Hey Jas, the central doghouse with storage either side as pictured earlier is definitely the way to go. However, if you plan on boating solo much of the time, put both batteries on the port side and use a 1-2-both switch so you can use the house battery to start the motor if the start battery dies. Your weight at the helm will offset the battery weight, and the wiring is dead easy. My boat lists ever so slightly to starboard in this configuration so I also store a 5 gallon water container on the port side under the stern bench seat. When the Admirable graces me and the boat with her presence, I put the water container on the starboard side and all is well with the world. Just a thought.

TII

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Thanks doods, appreciate the vote of confidence! It's kinda funny (ridiculous) that I went full circle (2 or 3 times actually) on the batt placement. Sheesh!

Yah guys, I do think having the two batts at the port side will be good placement for convenience, weight and balance. I'll just need to take the hit on $$ for the wiring ya know. I was thinking that I will have the switch installed right there in with the batts - should be very easy to acces. If I have a couple of minutes this morning I'll shoot a quick video so you can see what's up on the arrangement of stuff.

Yall have a great Wednesday!

 

[TitanTn]

Re: 1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

Ok, after more than a week of reading, and watching as I could, I've completed all 152 pages of this thread. To have caught up with the live action is bitter sweet. I will now have to wait for updates as others have been doing, but now I get to chip in on the conversation too. I'm not sure which is better, but whatever, I'm glad to witness what you're doing for two main reasons.

1) I used to own a Starcraft and have an affinity for those boats. 2) I also work on a tight budget most of the time and have really enjoyed watching someone do a quality job without dumping in tons of cash at every turn (I've just completed a restoration of a 24' ski boat).

Way to go Jas. Looking forward to seeing how you progress.