1976 22' Starcraft Islander Rebuild

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Trying to make up for my earlier "know nothing" help. Look at this Jas. They say lacquer thinner for clean up and bellows adhesive removal. Worth a try, the bellows can't be ruined by the stickum. And the goo is still fresh so it should come off.
 

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Jas will get it. He's braver than me though. I farmed mine out because I knew I might not have the patience considering how much I was working ot at the time.

Ez you almost have me converted. I'm hoping it's years before we have to touch these again.

You've got it Jas. Keep your chin up as that experience will come in handy for the rest of us.

Good luck with it tomorrow.

I will never ever own one of these. Good grief!
 

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Hey Jason I can feel your pain, as I did this whole number on my 18SS. I put the bellow on the gimble end first then started the bell housing end. Then I started the pins in the bell housing, then you can put your hand inside the bellows to pull the lip on the aft end fairly easy, just make sure the clamp in the right position so you can tighten it.
Glen
 

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OK, just got in from the garage, it's on...

Jas wins the day!!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D
 

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Persistance, patience and creativity....nice going. Time for a hot cup of my little pony coffee! :) and contemplate the next steps.... is it motor time????? :D
 

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Hey guys, thanks for sticking with me and bumping me along here. Much appreciated!:D

Really sorry, but I couldn't find the video camera this morning, just now found it, so, here is the recap...
 

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SSHHH - It was the coffee cup - don't tell anyone.
 

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It's a bird, it's a plane...nope it's Jas, your helpful neighborhood Merc service tech:). The sign says so!

Congrats! Martin Luther would be proud to hear your starting on the motor install on his actual birthday, not just the observed date.....:D Great work on the strap helping hands. I tried to find a thread that showed a similar move, but as it's an I/O & I have an OB, I didn't save its link. All that sledding time yesterday was clearly the break ya needed!

We now have recorded proof ^^^^ of pending motor install! Hope Lex is a stand up guy & leaves the kryptonite at home w/ Murphy 'til your done!
 

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Good werk.That must have been a pain.Never done one on the boat, but the GF has suggested that we seek out a boat when I get my payout.So I guess there's still a chance that I may tackle one on the boat.
 
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Good news Jas... nice job mate, we all knew that your persistance would pay off. :D

TII
 

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Just finished watching your latest vid, I bet it feels good to have that part of the project almost wrapped up!
 

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Hey thanks a bunch guys for the encouragement getting that bellows on! Really appreciate you guys sticking with me there!

This morning I actually got the Bell Housing Hinge Pins in, cranked at 60# per specs, and the trim switches back on. So, transom assembly is done!!!! Yesssssss!!!!:D

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I wanted to catch up on just a few of your comments...

I remember this spring I put a new set of bellows on a Volvo Penta drive and had the same problem you did with the bead seating.

Yup, getting that bead in place was key! Because this is my first go at this I really wasn't recognizing that the bellows needed to go on farther. By the time I figured out my mistake the bellows adhesive was sticking, the bellows was cold/hard, and I was straight up wiped out.

Jason,I took a screen shot of one of your vids, because I have a serious question.Please bare with me, because I am a southerner.If you have a look at the picture, you can clearly see my confusion.Would this be the yankee equivalent of our redneck mason jar drinking apparatus?

Well ben, I'll say this....

The coffee is a must have, absolute mandatory part of my morning. One full pot, black, strong. I am quite flexible about what holds my coffee though. I have mason jars regularly keep the coffee, shoot I had a pink pig cup this morning.

Anybody else catch the look on Jas's face right after the shower comment there at the end, :rolleyes: ya know right before he turned the camera off....

Yah, that right there was pretty classic in my world. You really needed to read between the lines though, let me translate...

Jen: Hey, whattya doing out there? Actual meaning: There is a very long list sitting here. It's labeled "Honey Do". It need your attention right away.

Ja: Trying to get this on. Actual meaning: I am in the heat of battle, and I'm losing badly. I'm about to rip this transom assembly off and throw it into the fire pit.

Jen: I gotta take a shower. Actual meaning: I'm going to go in the bathroom, lock the door, do a "Calgon Take Me Away" moment, lay in the bubble bath, and read a girly magazine for about 45 minutes. Uninterrupted. You'll need to tend to children during that time.

Ja: OK. Actual meaning: This bellows just kicked the stuffing out of me. You let me live with you and you feed me. Time to go in the house, daddy on duty.

By the way, here is a screen shot of the look of a man who just got a bellows beat down...
BellowsBeatDown.gif


Like, "Ah, ok, I just got the carp beat out of me by this stupid rubber slinky. I should walk away now."

As long as you learn something from each difficult task, it will make it easier on the next........................

Agreed! Honestly, knowing what I know now, I don't think this will be a tough job to do again down the road. There had to be a first time, I'm glad that's behind me!


Hang in there man. We are all pulling for you. It's NOT a loss when you learn something new. Enjoying your vids and your positive attitude. I have leaned a ton already from watching..thanks for posting.

Thanks dood! Yah, the only real reason I posted those up was so that guys won't make the same mistakes I just did. I seriously looked to find any kind of videos on this job and there wasn't hardly anything out there. One video of a video but that was about it. There were a bunch of taking everything off but hardly a thing out there putting it back together. Sad state that my vids are only one of a few out there, scary:eek:

I will never ever own one of these. Good grief!

Stick with OB's man, you'll age more gracefully.

Way to go Jas!

Nice way to top off the weekend!

SSHHH - It was the coffee cup - don't tell anyone.

Good werk.That must have been a pain.

Good news Jas... nice job mate, we all knew that your persistance would pay off. :D

TII

Just finished watching your latest vid, I bet it feels good to have that part of the project almost wrapped up!

Thanks a bunch fellas!

Now that stuff is all wrapped up, on to engine install:D
 

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Yah, that right there was pretty classic in my world. You really needed to read between the lines though, let me translate...

Jen: Hey, whattya doing out there? Actual meaning: There is a very long list sitting here. It's labeled "Honey Do". It need your attention right away.

Ja: Trying to get this on. Actual meaning: I am in the heat of battle, and I'm losing badly. I'm about to rip this transom assembly off and throw it into the fire pit.

Jen: I gotta take a shower. Actual meaning: I'm going to go in the bathroom, lock the door, do a "Calgon Take Me Away" moment, lay in the bubble bath, and read a girly magazine for about 45 minutes. Uninterrupted. You'll need to tend to children during that time.

Ja: OK. Actual meaning: This bellows just kicked the stuffing out of me. You let me live with you and you feed me. Time to go in the house, daddy on duty.

By the way, here is a screen shot of the look of a man who just got a bellows beat down...
BellowsBeatDown.gif


Like, "Ah, ok, I just got the carp beat out of me by this stupid rubber slinky. I should walk away now."

Hey, did you steal my copy of the 'Wife to Husband' full translation dictionary? Because yours sounds just like mine:eek: How did you ever sneak it out of my garage:
Big book.jpg

Also known as the "Understanding Women, Volume I, Chapters 1-5"

Additional Vol I chapters 6-10 are covered in separate textbooks available only after completing the introductory course. Vols II-IV and supplemental appendices require advanced coursework, demonstration of exceptional levels of commitment, and absolute belief in the axiom: Better Half.........

Either way, I ain't much of a reader:rolleyes:, I'm a hands on kind of guy......

Good to hear you got another step closer. Congrats! And have a good week!
 

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Hey, did you steal my copy of the 'Wife to Husband' full translation dictionary? Because yours sounds just like mine:eek: How did you ever sneak it out of my garage:
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Also known as the "Understanding Women, Volume I, Chapters 1-5"

JBC, that must be a Clymers or SELOC - my OEM manual on understanding women-speak is much larger and more detailed -- and even includes a few wiring diagrams and schematics (e.g. how to insert foot in mouth; placing tail between legs, etc...).

Jas, that post was CLASSIC.... Why I love hanging out here on the Islander thread (coffee shop).... Man, that made my laugh - especially knowing that I will be fighting my own battles with the rubber slinky soon....
 

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PMC: Yeah, I've heard southern women are more complex :eek:

Good thing your an ed-u-ma-cated fella, you probably aced your OEM test 1st time around. If available, we could all benefit from a few well chosen photo post ups of those wiring diagrams & schematics!:rolleyes:

I only had to test once too, but often require refresher/remedial courses from time to time. If I don't get my re-certification stamp annually, the Skillet show plays all too often!:D

I got a little grinding done today, but got shut down when the smell of grinding glass found it's way into the house. At least I was able to keep the dust down, and any skillet headed my way has tasty vittles in it:cool:!
 

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Agreed! Honestly, knowing what I know now, I don't think this will be a tough job to do again down the road. There had to be a first time, I'm glad that's behind me!

Hey Jas, I watched yer vid from yesterday,....
I Hope you ain't gonna be doin' this again, but something I saw is abit Distrubing...

That glue ya used is Silicone based....
Don has beatin' me silly, 'bout usin' Sillyseal on a boat, 'n Especially with the Bellows....
The Bellows Adhesive is more like automotive weatherstrip adhesive...

I don't do bellows very often, but when I do, I go buy the Bellows Adhesive....

Just a Heads Up,... Maybe ask Don for a 2nd opinion,...

Btw,... In the Beat Down by a bellows picture,... I Don't see any Blood....

You didn't get Beat, That bad..... ;) :D
 

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Yah, I hear ya Bondo, and I might have made a mistake there, maybe not. And, that has been my understanding on silicone as well - but here was my rational...

I didn't want to just go back with sliding it on as the Bellows Adhesive was a bit inconsistent from my 1st attempt. I did get the little chunks off and used a little solvent to get it to lay flat for the most part. All the same I wasn't feeling real good about just pushing it on like that. I kinda wanted something to sort of even out the surfaces, ya know. So I had that 3M Sealant in my hand and read...

"Excellent Gasket Adhesive"

...right on the box there. Well shoot, that's a pretty confident statement coming from 3M.

Anyhoo, I couldn't figure out how it would hurt it any. I did end up yanking really hard on the bellhousing before I sunk the pins in, bellows didn't move at all.

When I pull the drive to winterize next fall we'll see how good/bad I did, eh:redface: Though, I can't see any water working it's way past that seal.

Would I do it that way again? Heck no! Just get it right the first time;)

Appreciate your time man, thanks for stopping by:D

Btw,... In the Beat Down by a bellows picture,... I Don't see any Blood....

Knuckles were a bit bloodied, nuttin too bad though;)


EDIT: Bondo if ya think my boat is going to sink to the bottom of Lake Michigan, hollar cuz I hate it when that happens.
 
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